This is not an easy subject to discuss across continents. Americans will have a different concept of race because they can only see, among Americans, two or three races: white, black and if they remember, Asian. In Europe you typically don’t think in those terms. If you’re German, you say you’re German, not white. The same with other European nations. So in the US people will say white American or black American whereas in Europe those racial qualifiers are avoided. Leroy Sane is referred to as German, not a black German.
In practical terms with race in America, it is once again on the way out of public policy after making a comeback with Obama and putting up a strong decade of prevailing thought. I suspect the culture will follow suit in fairly short order. There isn’t much money left in woke racism. There was a lot of money in Top Gun 2.
Democrats in the USA have been saying that other races are inferior to whites for a long time in a lot of different ways, with Asians now ascending to this status of “whiteness”.
The concept of “equity” allows the ideology to select new targets at will, on more than just racial lines as well. It isn’t even consistent like other forms of Socialism tried to be. Germans were the victim group in National Socialism and the working class was the victim group with Marx. That’s easier to get your head around than who is a victim in 2025, especially when you look for an explanation of why.
We dodged a huge bullet. This ideology was just as bad on paper as National Socialism and likely would have led to civil war if imposed on Americans any more than it was. I’m still concerned the situation in Maine will get violent, all the signs are here.
Most importantly, people DEEPLY believe in the righteousness of Democratic Socialism and the wickedness of any who oppose it. This allows people, often with mental issues, feeling both motivated and justified to take extreme actions.
Modern American Socialism is the same song it always has been, just a different verse. Swap Germans with whoever is deemed an oppressed identity at the moment, swap nationalism with the even more sinister internationalism, then tack on a whole lot of crazy stuff like transgenderism and abolition of the carceral state.
There’s a reason not a single Democrat politician in Maine is explaining their plans or defending their policies. There’s nothing there but this ideology of twisted reasoning that sound crazy when you explain it, because it is.
Democratic Socialists are no more insane than Hitler or any of the rest. They are all acting consistent with their completely twisted ideology, borne out of the pit of endlessness known as dialectical materialism.
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Could that be due to the fact that there are hardly any non-whites in Europe?
Part of it is the aftermath of WW2. They wanted to avoid racial distinctions within nations. Also, as we moved forward in time, they want to avoid the kind of racial bs we have in the US. Rather than having someone say they are a black Italian, they want them to say they are an Italian who happens to be black, or of African origins (which doesn’t really need stating). Just as there are many Italians of Albanian origin, for example.
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True. I totally forgot that in US the racial definitions are juch more common.
Cultural racial definitions are probably avoided in Europe because of nazis, but I also see them unclear and kinda useless.
Hmm…that makes sense. The Progressive White American prefers that your skin color is your entire identity.
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Exactly. That’s why they come up with senseless and uneducated concepts like white culture and black culture. They don’t say American culture. Obviously there are subcultures within a culture but they are under the same umbrella. In Italy, for example, there are regional differences but to an outsider they might not be that noticeable.
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Just goes to show that the people who are called leftists in this country ARE NOT leftist, they are mainstream Democrats. The Democrats ARE NOT of the left. There is very little difference between the 2 parties economically speaking. The difference lies in identity politics. Something that has little relevance to the majority of people. Which is the main reason they keep losing elections. Economically, it’s like Biden said, nothing will fundamentally change. He said that to his donors at a fundraiser. Is that something a real leftist would say, especially with his mouth stuffed with the cocks of his donors? C’mon man!
Rand Paul said something similar:
Yes, but Paul has his own problem in economics. He is a gold-standard fool and still(like the majority)tries to apply those parameters to a fiat currency. So everything(economics) that falls from his mouth is wrong because his premise is wrong.
Oh, Good lord. Trump, Zelensky, and Vance are going at it.
Fucking nuts.
I have to say Zelenskyi was admirably calm.
Yeah. Dems are seen economically as centre-right party.
Identity politics, immigration and values are what seem to divide the two parties. I don’t know all the ins and outs of US economic politics though. But compared to the leftists in Europe democrats don’t look like leftists.
Trump and Vance lay into Zelensky.
https://t.co/9jKhCxkOgN” / XI could see why someone might conclude that if you look at the economic policies in a vacuum. The problem is that economic policies don’t exist in a vacuum.
The policies that are obviously designed to produce an entrenched, one-party rule are the tell of Socialism, not how closely the means to achieve it match a textbook definition of the workers seizing the means of production.
That’s why we’re still on the idea that REAL socialism just hasn’t been tried yet. That’s also how MAGA Republicans, which are nearly the opposite of National Socialists on nearly every policy you can imagine, are somehow lumped into the same “far right” bucket of ideas.
The whole term is meant to confuse, and confuse people it has.
Because, like I said they aren’t leftists.
Like workers’ rights? A big issue
Political terms are always confusing since they’re used differently by different people and their meaning shifts as the time goes by.
Just think terms like conservatism, socialism, liberalism, feminism etc.
I personally talk about socialism as a working class movement and as a question of economic equality versus economic freedom (economic right).
Aside from conscripting German workers to go get slaughtered by the Red Army, Hitler’s National Socialism was very much oriented around the German workers.
They had the largest union in history, and nearly every social program you can imagine.