It would be hilarious if liberals start saying they will never support a business ran by a Trump voter and then they need a plumber or a tow truck or any other mundane service offered by zero Kamala Harris voters in 100 miles.
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The crazy and ironic thing to me is that the economy Trump is about to inherit from the dems is going to make him look like a champ a year from now and republicans will get to look amazing because of it.
Manufacturing is as high as it’s ever been and growing.it was dropping for a year even before Covid under trump
Energy production is as high as its ever been and growing
Inflation is back down to target levels
Infrastructure projects that Biden laid the groundwork for are just beginning
The fed is cutting rates every quarter, which will lower interest rates as well
Gas has been dropping and is back to post-pandemic lows and continues to drop
And Trump get to swoop in and take credit for all of it in a year. Nothing Biden did will matter a fucking lick to the optics of rhe gen pop because it will all manifest in the next 1-3 years as trump is in office
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Part of what I think a lot of people were voting against was people telling them things were great when most people are simply much worse off in many measurable ways. There’s towns all over just like mine that are overrun by immigrants right now, far beyond the capacity of the public school and other institutions to effectively absorb.
People clearly remember things like functioning institutions and years passing with no gunshots being fired in anger.
Young people in particular aren’t imagining things when they can see how much more difficult it is to even get a basic apartment, let alone purchase a home.
Telling people who are struggling that things are actually great isn’t always going to resonate. I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing, but the Harris campaign has definitely been telling people not to believe their lying eyes on the cost of Democrat policy implementation.
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Immigration is a real albatross around the neck of democrats. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say it cost them the election.
Honestly if they could give some ground on it and guns they would have a much broader appeal IMO because their economic ideas are winners by and large (see list above, almost every metric is moving in the right direction post pandemic pain, )
That and the democrats seem allergic to touting their victories in public
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The analogy comes to mind that the Democrats were driving a NASCAR on the Interstate at 80 mph.
Trump is going to run that NASCAR closer to its capability.
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As gasoline supply further exceeds demand, gasoline prices will drop much further.
Not the analogy I would use but I can see how you think of it that way
He’s going to inherit the nascar, try to hit the gas but run into the guard rails. Hop out of the burning wreckage and lie about how amazing his driving was and how it was actually a liberal who crashed the car.
He inherited a super hot economy and within 2 years was losing manufacturing jobs. His beloved coal never came back and in fact he kept losing production of coal in the US, the lowest numbers for coal in the US was his last year in office… he doesn’t even bring it up any more he was so bad on it
His tariffs exploded the steel market price and caused a trade war with china on soy beans so bad he had to subsidize farmers $15B… and he wants to bring that to the economy at large.
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I think it’s easy to get away with how much politicians are “responsible” for economic successes. They set policy (a dizzying amount of it). Some of it comes into play rather quickly, some effects may deferred for years.
It is more of the “experts say” appeals to authority that are losing effectiveness because the experts predictions keep failing to come true. Experts say it is important to suggest to young children that they might be, can be and even should be members of the opposite sex, so we do that at school.
The USA is the greatest treasure in history, make no mistake about it. Every president gets to inherit the greatest treasure in history, guaranteed to do everything it can to function in whatever framework gets set by the government.
I look at policy in broad terms of prioritizing not messing it up first and foremost rather than trying to shape the outcomes in a particular way. Democrats have a lot of different words for it, but what they really promise to deliver is a form of cosmic justice, which is not possible to achieve.
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Saving coal as a source for electric generation was destined to decline once the EPA declared that carbon dioxide was a pollutant. There was no future for coal. Coal has the largest percentage of carbon of all the fossil fuels.
The only hope for coal is a method of capturing the carbon out of the stack effluent, unless carbon dioxide is later not considered a pollutant. You have a carbon footprint in the eyes of the EPA, if all you do is breathe.
This is regardless of who is President.
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The broader point I was attempting to make was that one of his marquee economic and jobs promises for his 2016 run not only never materialized, it went the opposite direction
Just like manufacturing jobs did under trump once his economy took hold
Farmers had to get subsidized by the government after his tariffs fell flat on their face.
Yet somehow 50% of the country thinks he saved the day because gas was cheaper (during Covid when demand cratered). His economic policies and outcomes were abject failures
Another example: He is now talking about “fixing” the SALT deduction in the tax code… you know, that thing he signed into Law? The sad part is it’s going to work. He will “fix it” and get the credit for it
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I’m really trying to decipher this and just can’t make sense of it. Could you put this into some more concrete terms for me if you are interested in engaging?
You have to look at it in context. Coal was displaced primarily by natural gas - since 2011, over 100 coal fired plants were replaced by nat gas cycle plants because the fracking revolution drove down natural gas prices so substantially. A slight uptick of coal usage in the US and globally was due to the implementation of such bad energy policy, that it created a higher degree of energy scarcity which drove the need for coal back up - Germany is an excellent example of this.
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TX has shared similar woes. Federal dollars subsidizing renewable energy made those sources so economically viable that we were left with a lag in dispatchable generation.
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I don’t look at it as Trump saving the day. I look at it as him not screwing the day up.
You will never convince me that Democrats have any interest in improving the lives of US citizens or that their policies as a whole improve the situation compared to not implementing their policies.
If you can explain to me why it is a good thing that Lewiston Maine public schools went from <1 percent Muslim to roughly 46 percent Muslim in about two decades, you might convince me that they are a good bet. As a hint, this change did not take place through very many locals converting to Islam and the city’s total population hasn’t changed much. I believe our language count is around a dozen this school year.
Can you explain why voting for more of that is going to work out for the locals here (hypothetically, of course, as the election is over).
The point I took away from it was that trump was pandering to a specific section of the population who was doomed to fail - and instead of recognizing all of the factors you correctly describe he insisted he was going to save coal instead and all of them fell for it, not knowing the context you apparently know and that it was either bullshit from the start or a doomed proposal with no future
A better plan, in my opinion, is instead pledge to search around for rhe best possible energy source - be it coal, or gas, or fracking, or renewables - and commit to invest in those technologies and bring those people along for the prosperous ride.
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Not that I would argue that, but Why would I even try when you have just said nothing I say would convince you?
What does that actually mean though?
Like is the compounding increase that we’ve experienced for the past several years now amelioriated, or is it just increasing, but not as fast?
Cuz there has been tons of fuckery for several years about what they say the numbers mean and what they actually mean.
Look at the term “equity”. It is a promise of using government to alter the cosmos to a better end, which actually has a whole lot of other implications, too. The idea is that the raw state of the world around us produces the wrong outcomes in the absence of “equity” policies, and it also requires an assumption that chanting the prayer word “equity” will actually improve someone’s life at the end of the day.
Another question to ponder: What’s the difference between justice and social justice?
At the end of the day modern leftism is simply repeating the old pattern of identifying bad or unfair outcomes in the world, suggesting that you can alter or prevent those outcomes with government, even when that’s not really possible. Then keeping that up as long as you can.
It’s the same thing witch doctors do, so they often traveled from town-to-town.
Well, it was the Democrats at local, state and federal level who seem to have the idea that Lewiston is still experiencing a shortage of state-dependents from distant lands, then using public funds to import more to Maine. That’s been the real kicker to all of this. We have to pay for it too.
I would look at the situation completely differently if it was a normal movement of people who weren’t enticed to move here for state benefits.
Catholic Charities of Maine is about the closest thing to a Republican you can pin any of that one on, and I doubt they have many Trump voters in their organization.
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In short the answer to that is yes. A small amount of inflation is generally considered desirable for economic activity.
Even at zero inflation prices do not go down, basically by definition
Wait 4 years then you can tell us how worse off the country is
I will be the first to admit that Trump was a bad choice if I am worse off then than i am now
At this point it doesn’t what he did or did not accomplish in his first term
Actually if you look at my post a little above you’ll see I’m predicting the country will be doing quite okay in a years time, through the groundwork laid by the last 4 years
Trump could fuck it all up though, so we will see
Mass deportations and tariffs alone could spell absolute bedlam, we will see who here has the integrity to admit it when it goes whichever way it goes