Nah these days any amount of steroid use is just called “TRT” or “TRT+”. So trendy lol
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Yes and Stanozolol.
Jesus christ doing this would get a doctor knocked off for medical malpractice over here. Even if anabolic steroids ARE indicated (cancer cachexia etc) they won’t be prescribed. We would rather provide straight progestogens so you can get fat!
In all seriousness I can’t believe they are getting away with this considering the FDA announced crackdown last year.
I’m sure we all know anavar is TERRRRIBLE for lipids… But stanozolol is even worse. It’s probably THE worst thing you can take in terms of the effect on lipid profile.
My guess is the party will not last for much longer. They will push the boundaries, get unwanted attention from the feds, and then the whole “TRT” telehealth system comes down.
You might consider a small dose of a fairly safe oral like 10mg of Anavar pre workouts. Just that little amount for me daily made a huge impact on gains and losing fat (I’m a big boy).
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Given how bad it appears to be with clinics handing out steroids it makes me think the DEA will do with steroids what they did with pain medication
That is crack down so hard even doctors prescribing legitimately curb prescriptions for palliative care, cancer pain etc. Make sure even ER doctors are terrified to dose someone when a bone is poking through skin etc.
There was a HUGE crackdown between 2016-2023 to the point they cracked down on innocent doctors, not just pill pushers. Many stories of doctors committing suicide, being put in jail or being put on trial over innocent prescribing.
I imagine the same approach will be taken to the hormones. It will be like Australia where it’s damn near impossible to get on TRT even if you are down at like 180ng/dl.
Ten years from now a guy with klinefelters syndrome won’t be able to get an androgel prescription. There will be a number of confirmed high profile deaths related to the steroids, like a famous person with shitty genetics having a heart attack and dying related to stanozolol use from one of these clinics and that will result in a very quick crackdown (my opinion).
I expect the DEA to rightfully go after the Adderal telehealth clinics as well as these clinics are actually pushing drugs.
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yep they are, that was part of what spurred this whole challenge to Telehealth in the first place, from what I understand
5 mg of D-Bol is roiding
On Anavar??
Nah dude
Some clinics prescribe test, anavar, winstrol, deca
It’s all in the realm of “trt” nowadays… And that’s only in America… I don’t think doctors in other countries are prescribing this stuff for “trt”
Because TRT is supposed to replace testosterone (not bring supra levels). Lots of clinics in the US are now prescribing like 200-250mg/wk which for 90% of men is no longer “trt”… there are exceptions
I don’t have an issue with roids (personal choice and whatnot, steroids themselves imo generally don’t represent a ‘menace to society’ barring maybe trenbolone. If I recall you tried some prohormones back in the day, essentially the same thing esp the ones like promag/halodrol/superdrol etc which were literally just oral steroids marketed as prohormones), but at least say “i’m taking roids”… pretending steroids, even something mild like primo is “trt”… Where is primo mentioned in TESTOSTERONE replacement therapy?
Shit like this gives legitimate TRT a bad name… Then we create a dynamic (like with pain medication where drug addicts and purdue pharma gave legitimate medications a bad name and now even cancer patients are being denied access in certain circumstances because “addiction”) where the pendulum swings so far in the other direction and then even people who need the meds can’t get them (such has happened with testosterone in Australia)
Steroids are not good for you… but then again I believe in some degree of personal choice. Anabolic steroids are legal to take in many countries and the sky hasn’t fallen within most of them nor do they necessarily have higher rates of use compared to countries where they are illegal to take. They weren’t really illegal (not controlled substances) pre 1991 in the US either.
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I have tried it a several times and personally won’t run less than 200mg a week. It is a very mild steroid and I didn’t notice any benefits under 200. 200mg of Primo I’ve run as long as 20 weeks and didn’t have any side effects. At that dose it will help you recover a little faster and have a more chiseled look if your body fat is low enough but don’t expect any massive changes. When I do a TRT + it’s either with Primo 200-400mg or Masteron 200mg week along with 150mg Test. Almost 45 and I am more focused on health at this point than being massive and jacked.
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Any hair loss from low dose Primo?
Reporting back in after all this time so someone else who has this question might see how it went for one guy.
First of all, wow, so much getting caught up in semantics. So from TRT to Super Low Dose Steroids should have been the title. I think we all know what I meant. But hey, whatever.
As a follow up, I tried it. 180 test with 150 primo per week. All was fine till about 8 weeks in and my libido crashed. I assumed it was crashed estrogen, so I brought the test up to 210 and titrated the primo down to 90, then 75, then stopped over the course of about 4 weeks. The titration was to smooth out the hormonal change to reduce acne side affects of which affected me upon starting the primo, but went away after about a month (I did start using a retinoid skin cream that helped with that as well).
The affects were subtle as most responders said it would be. It wasn’t till I was titrated off that I started noticing that my look was just a tad less sharp. I did not lose strength or weight going from 180 test/150 primo to just 210 test. I’m still lean, but just a little smoother looking. On the primo, I looked a little pumped all day. Don’t have that now.
I can confirm my estrogen was crashed because even though my symptoms started improving after a couple weeks of beginning the titration down, my estrogen was still too low for my doctor to see on the blood test after about 4 weeks of having no longer injected any more primo.
Of note, there was no perceptible impact to my lipids based on some blood tests I had done for some other things that didn’t involve looking at my hormones. It’s a shame about the estrogen because I’d much rather increase the primo than the test.
With a test base of around 200/week, I can accomplish pretty much whatever I want to, within reason. That said, I might try a short run of anavar just to keep things interesting in the gym. I’ve come in to a bit of a plateau after a year of doing what I’ve been doing. It’s tough to break through when I still need to tend to my job, family and endurance cycling hobby.
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90mg/week Primo with 180mg/week Test will absolutely do something; those who say otherwise probably never used real Primo.
70mg/week Primo (HPLC blind tested) on top of 140mg/week Test E crashed my E2 sensitive to 10pg/mL, whereas it would typically be around 40pg/mL on 140mg/week of Test alone.
I also definitely noticed body composition changes and an increase in strength. Primo is still an AAS, I think many believe it doesn’t do as much as other AAS because it doesn’t aromatize so all your gains are lean gains with no extra water retention, but there’s no evidence that it builds less muscle than say Dbol, mg per mg.
I now use just 25mg/week on top of 150mg/week Test E as an AI and that’s perfect for me. Obviously at that low a dose I’m not really noticing much besides less water retention and a better mood/mindset from lower E2 without crashing it.
If you can fine tune it to work with your TRT, it’s absolutely an incredible addition, but you have to be careful because you can easily completely crash your E2.
Also remember that a 1:1 ratio might work on 500mg/week Test but will be a disaster on 125mg/week TRT. Start (very) low and see how you feel and run labs after ~6 weeks.