TRT: Protocol for Injections

Clomid or Nolvadex will work. Some guys get nasty side effects from clomid. Nolvadex does not do that. Small doses. 10/12mg for either. Better than nothing. You can test LH/FSH to see if they are working via the hypothalamus and pituitary.

If you want to discuss your details, open up a new topic for your case.

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Is aromasin(exemestane) suitable as AI for TRT

It can work. But compared to 1mg/week anastrozole, it is a lot more costly and a higher drug load on the body. In some TRT cases, it just does not seem to work.

Please see the stickies listed here: About the T Replacement Category - #2 by KSman

if i go down to 100 per week do u think ill still need E blocker?

thats cheap, was told $800 out here

Cheapest I have found, your Dr has to fax in the script

Triad Rx
26258 Pollard Rd
Daphne, Alabama 36526
855-288-0134

so cheap I don’t remember

@KSman thank you for all the wonderful information… thank you.

I wanted to know your protocol as of today? What dose of T AI and HCG are you on? What syringes/needle do you use and where do you inject?

And what your TT,FT,E2 on your protocol?

Quads, SC/SQ, #29 0.5ml 1/2 insulin needles
T dose is high now, developed some resistance.
Anastrozole dose less that it use to be, body needs less now, I am very lean.
300iu hCG SC EOD

But what I need is sort of immaterial and is not a guide to others as we are not the same.

None of the above is unexpected given my posts to others.

@KSman Very appealing point about T resistance.

. do you think your body only has this do you expect other people to develop tolerance and resistance to test injection ?

Ksman, great great info!!! I am 52, my doctor put me on a 3 month TRT together with Phentermine. I am 6 weeks in. I was prescribed HCG for fat loss support 500 IU ED, for the past week. Energy wise I feel fine, but probably because of the Phentermine? After reading your posts I probably have been taken way to much Anastrozole? If I work out I don’t seem the have much stamina.

Here is my current protocol for the past 6 weeks:

200 mg Test Cypionate weekly
HCG 500 Units ED for the past week
Anastrozole 1mg ED
B12 Every 2 weeks

After reading your postings I should probably make some changes to my protocol to get the most benefits. Please, let me know what you think?

100 mg Test Cypionate twice a week
500 IU HCG EAD
Anastrozole 1mg twice a week
B12 every 2 weeks

I appreciate your input, thanks in advance!

I am glad to help.

Please create your own thread/topic for your case copy this info there so we are not working your case inside this sticky.

Your proposed protocol is good but only 1/2mg anastrozole at time if injections. [1mg ED was horrible. Stop for 5-6 days then resume at new dose.

Read a lot of this post, but couldn’t find the answer I am looking for: Can you use the 29g .5inch pin for both SC and IM? Or is is strictly SC?

And, can you use a 27g .5inch pin for IM?

Thanks!

Yes

and Yes

1/2" for IM for small volumes works well on upper leg muscles if fat is thin or you compress fat with syringe during injection.

SC is best for slower release, steadier T levels and avoiding decades of needle damage to muscles.

It is important to create a thread/topic just for your case. Can’t carry a case in the stickies. Post lab work there with ranges, not just hormone results. Provide more info about you and your concerns. Stick to that one thread and avoid fracturing your case across multiple threads. See you there!

Do you have a reference for this research by any chance? I’m wondering if they give strategies to avoid all the lumps that come as a result of subcutaneous injections. I used to do two-week ED prop cycles SQ and had lumps on my stomach for weeks. Thanks alot for the article though, really helpful!

Lumps are an individual thing.

Some get lumps on belly and not upper leg and vise verse. Have you tried both?

When there are lumps, the form of T, oils and preservatives may be factors.

ED injections are not needed.

I do not think that the paper discussed lumps. But the injection itself will always create a bump as expected.

It is interesting how many doctors used to say that this could not work/absorb, while advocating transdermal T or pellets under the skin. And some docs would say that injecting T through #29 insulin needles was impossible without ever having tried it. And some would state that the fine needle would great a jet during injections that would damage tissues, not having tried to have seen that fast injections are impossible. Doctors make things up.

I tried T subq many years ago as I have insulin syringes on hand for hCG.

I have a really low bodyfat which doesn’t help, but with legs I just felt like I was pinching skin. I’m sure it’s not a problem, but injecting into adipose tissue was preferable. It doesn’t really matter anymore as I do IM with 27g tips and they are fine for me (the 22s I used to use are terrifying haha). I used to play around with 2 week cycles of high dose prop, but I’ve since changed to a TRT approach. I’ll be making a thread shortly, really glad I found this resource. I’ve been reading over past threads and there’s such a wealth of information. Thanks for all that you put out @KSman :+1:

hCG is also good subq with #31 5/16"

#29 1/2" IM will work too

Subq probably works better VS IM as testes will be saturated with hCG peaks. That is my thinking from similar experience with hGH subq VS IM results on labs.

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Hi KSman.

You mention in the post to use 0.5ml and not 1ml needles. What is the reasoning for this? I can only seem to find the 1ml needles.

fwiw, it doesn’t matter. However the dose can. Only to the extend of how much of the cylinder you need to fill. If you taking .5ml and use a .5ml syringe, you max out the plunger, which makes it a little more difficult to handle especially with one hand. I take .5ml doses and switched some time ago to a 1ml and I only draw half way up the cylinder, making it easier to use. Really just a personal preference vs. chemical outcome.

Easytouch?