Also , learn to take responsibility and know that your condition is completely in your hands . If you didn’t have success fasting , it’s because you were doing it wrong . Every single piece of professional evidence points towards remarkable health benefits, anti aging , and disease reversal from fasting . It just has to be done correctly … fasting will never make you feel good if you’re eating high carbohydrate meals . If you don’t teach tour body to run on fat , you will go through carbohydrate withdrawals for the first 40-60 hours of your fast while your body learns to use your stored body fat as energy . This is why a “fasting mimicking “ diet is best . Drop carbs , eat protein and fats . This will teach your body to run on fats . You will go through an adaption phase where you feel like dogshit . These are the carb withdrawals, usually lasts 3-7 days . Then you implement fasting , this way , as soon as you deprive your body of food ,it pulls energy from stored body fat instead of looking for the carbs that it all of a sudden doesn’t have …
Does this mean PPAR inhibitors could also provide similar benefits?
Yes .That’s the idea of ppar .What I’m getting at though , is your body endogenously produces EVERYTHING you need to thrive if you feed it right , and practice healthy lifestyle habits . Ppar inhibitors just kickstart your body’s natural antioxidant production . However , this is also done through things that put small amounts of stress on the body . In my opinion , fuck those pills . Jump in an ice bath , lift weights , run up a hill , high heat saunas , inferred saunas , fast for 24-36 hrs every month or 2 . Make yourself uncomfortable and get comfortable with it . Do you really want to live life thinking you NEED medicine to make you feel good ? Or do you wanna be a straight fucking warrior who’s healthier ,happier , and more clear minded than any of these “yeah I pump 300mg test a week , I’m doin trt and I feel great !” Fuckin clowns . 99% think they feel good bc they look good . A 6 pack doesn’t mean your healthy , but make no mistake about it … not having a six pack definitely means your not eating and living right and you’re metabolically un healthy .They’ve never known what it’s like to truly be healthy . Test injection is the closest they’ve ever come . I’m telling you . Trt is trash . Fucking hoax . Bullshit . I’d condone short blast cycles if you want to try to look like a freak , but that’s about it . Your body will make all the test it needs if you feed it and train it properly . There’s a reason the reference range is so big . Know people with 330 ng/dl that are bigger , stronger , and more ripped then the fuckin juice box at the gym pumpin 1g a week + other shit …
Some mentioned TRT for the antidepressant effect. Gives them a little more composure.
I could see ppar helping less disciplined guys.
That’s how your body works . You eat something , think of your stomach as a bus station . Everything goes to the station they all get on different transporters and get shuttled to the cells where they’re stored , where it can later be used for whatever your body needs it for . Most are stored in your liver , some in the bones , in the mitochondria etc . When you workout for example , many vitamins and minerals are required to give you the energy you need , to make your muscles contract , so they’re taken from the cells and thrown into your bloodstream so your body can do what you’re calling it to. You need vitamins and minerals to be shuttled into the blood steam just to walk , to chew , to blow your fuckin nose . So , they’ll likely always be in your bloodstream , but you may be running deficient in the cells …
What cells? The bus stop cells?
I wish I knew. I found that the modern medicine is completely in the stone age when it comes to understanding how human body works.
I found that I have genetic mutations causing me not metabolizing vitamins B naturally. This wrecks havoc in neurotransmitters and everything else. When I started taking Methyl Folate and Methyl B12, I felt absolutely incredible for a few days. Never felt that good in my entire life. Then the effect was over. I added Niacinamide and felt better again. But that didn’t last either. Since then I can’t replicate the results no matter what.
So, none of this is known to science. The Epigenetics science is only starting to evolve. Dr Walsh is the only researcher in this.
I believe that this genetic inheritance is the cause of men getting low testosterone. Mrz133 believes this is from diet. We both can be right but so far this is just “shooting in the dark”. There’s no exact understanding of how things work and what needs to be done.
Here is what I dont understand. If you take someone who has hypertension in modern medicine we give antihypertensives and it theory it lower the blood pressure and the sidefects they had from high blood pressure. Now lets take TRT. They are many people on this forum that are here for multiple reasons. Now some people are here because there in to bodybuilding and they are into lifting weights so for some reason they want to inject them selves with testosterone. Other are here because they may have had some reaction to some kind of other med that effected there testosterone production. And then otheres are here simply because they woke up one day and had no idea what happened to there body it just was not the same anymore. Now you can be either secondary or primary hypogonadism which does not make a difference how they are treated. But from some reason when alot of people take testosterone it does not help at all and if it does it may only fix one to two symptoms. I do not think injecting testosterone is the answer because there are people on here who have tried multiple protocols and still can nit get better. This makes no sense.
Yes, you’re right. I was doing it wrong as well as every single person has done it wrong. Because there’s no right or wrong. There’s just shooting in the dark trying to shot a fly. There’s no science or clear understanding how human body works, no matter how convincing someone speaks of his diet.
Your diet is “wrong” for others, too. But it’s right for you.
What you said contradicts what every other diet promoter says. Something worked for each of them, and something else worked for you. But it won’t work for everyone, because everyone has different causes of problems.
To follow your diet one must be a billionaire with lots of free time to do all these things your mentioned like 16 hours a day. How practical is this? I work at a factory and I have only ONE HOUR of free time per day. Sometimes even 30 min. The rest is work and commute. I live alone as my wife passed away…
What you described is considered wrong by every other diet user/promoter. And what others advice is considered wrong by you. So who is right?? Everyone promotes what worked FOR THEMSELVES.
I’ve actually learned my condition is TOTALLY OUT OF MY HANDS.
I was trying different dietary approaches. Each such group promoting one diet was indistinguishable from a cult. So I was a cult member, trying one such cult after another. Nothing worked. When I told one cult members about what I tried in a previous cult - I was ridiculed.
It’s funny how there are so much different approaches to diets. If they were based on science, it would be ONE SINGLE diet that works for everyone and fixes ALL his problems. The existence of million different approaches proves fundamental lack of understanding of how human body works.
Well we found Vinne Tortorich’s burner account.
Do you…do you know the name of the website on which you’re currently posting?
There absolutely positively is . You have the internet right at your fingers . Look into shit . The info is everywhere . You’re asking a room full of random people who don’t know shit , how to fix your problem . Luckily , I’m giving you ideas . Look into them , or keep being miserable 
All this is based on some pretty new research . Newsflash …THERE IS NO MONEY IN CUTING YOU !!! people who you are paying don’t know shit . The only doctors who know what’s what are the ones that do their own due diligence and ask questions , and figure it out for themselves . Doctors go to medical school to learn how to diagnose , and medicate . Think real hard , and ask yourself … when is the last time you know someone who was diagnosed with a certain condition and was cured … never , bc they don’t know how . They medicate you , while you do the same dumb bullshit that made you sick on the first place … and you get worse . Look what’s happening to you now … how’s that testosterone replacement therapy going ? 
stop being so fucking ignorant . What I’m telling you is how humans evolved . YES IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE . The average modern male is a straight pussy , with tits and Ed because they listen to society and the fda . Stop looking at what’s right in front of you . Obviously it’s not working … 10 years you just said you’re feeling like shit !!! 10 fucking years you’re right , you got this . Keep listing to everything that’s been failing you . And keep pumping test 
You’re doing great sweetheart
Certain vegetables, fruit , iodized salt , and sugar deplete the body of b vitamins , and also block it’s absorption . Is it possible your diet is high in some of these ?
Then explain to me like a scientist and not like an angry pussy, where you got this information and where I can read about it. Your source of good information. Then I may study this.
I’m looking into shit for 10 years, and trying shit for 10 years so stop blaming me for doing nothing.
All you are giving so far is cursing and ridicule. Give me a source of info on this, exact regimen/diet, scientific explanation behind it, with forums where people had success with it.
If all it is is cutting all carbs then I’ve tried that for several months. I felt worse, fatigue was unbearable. Then many angry gurus like you told me that our bodies run on sugar and a human body will die without it.
So I went off TRT cold turkey as directed by my doctor in January, was on Clomid for 7 weeks during which my LH was 5.9. Now 2 months later my T and E2 are back to pre-TRT level - T 300-400, E2 - 13-15, and my LH is down to 2.5, FSH is down to 2.2 and I have absolutely no erections and libido! And no morning wood whatsoever. It’s been 2.5 months since I’ve finished Clomid.
Does that mean that my Pituitary is permanently damaged by TRT?
Also, during TRT I was on 200 iu HCG two times per week. Is that too big of a dose that might have damaged my leydig cells in the testicles?
Since you’re off TRT. Now you can focus on your Nitric Oxide production. Without good production of it, you wont experience erections. Take daily carnitine, arginine, and watermelon rind along with 2.5mg Cialis and see what happens over short period of time. TRT is only one block, and not meant to be a magic bullet.
Thanks, but I have tried Citrulline during TRT And that didn’t help. Also cialis is not working now…
Still, if you or anyone else can answer these questions, I’d really appreciate:
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Does that mean that my Pituitary is permanently damaged by TRT?
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Also, during TRT I was on 200 iu HCG two times per week. Is that too big of a dose that might have damaged my leydig cells in the testicles?
It doesn’t really matter if your pit was damaged. It didn’t work prior to TRT and isn’t working now. LH is low.