I liked your first post. Then it started to spiral into a quest for a better state of being, so I tend to lose track once a ton of supplements get thrown into the mix. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Just been noticing that too many of us are adding and subtracting minerals, Vitamins, and drugs. Im convinced that I cant be chasing numbers like so many are. I feel good as is. Just happy to be making gains in life again. Happy with the simple things I suppose.
Whatās you protocol?
And someone else could say āwhy do TRT you should just be happy to be alive?ā A lot of us are just trying to optimize our situations because we spent so long in such bad places. You can be happy where you are and thats fine but there are many on this board that are looking for more and just trying to put pieces together.
You have been a member of this board for 30 days and you are 4 weeks into your testosterone replacement. You have no experience to speak from. You are still in the honeymoon phase which is why you are happy where you are. You will be in a different place in a few weeks and maybe wondering how to feel better.
With all due respect, you donāt know shit.
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Ok, thats cool. Nice to meet you. Nothing but love from me to you bro. I dont even know what the honeymoon phase is. I just know that I wake up and go to work. Come home and do it all over again. The only thing that has changed for me is my body composition. Im enjoying that. Everything else is just who I am. I dont expect to have issues. If I do, I will be in touch with you guys. But Im the kind of guy who has to keep it simple. I do apologize for coming off as a newb with gainz acting like I know all of this. All Im saying is TRT should push you towards simplifying your life.
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Itās nice to meet you as well. If you stick around here long enough you will see that no two people have the same situation outside of TRT. Then even within the TRT realm it is multifaceted. We are all just trying to be well. We have plenty of keep-it-simple guys like you but we are cycling through a LOT of information and a LOT of new stuff coming out.
The honeymoon phase of TRT is where you are introducing exogenous testosterone but your body is still producing its own. Over the initial 6 weeks of TRT your body slowly shuts down its production and the honeymoon is over and you usually go from feeling like youāre at 10 back down to about 6. Which is still pretty awesome considering a lot of us felt like a 0-1 to start. You will level out around 8 as your body gets used to the protocol. We are all (mostly) looking to be around 9 however so we try little tweaks here and there and maybe try to dial in our thyroid or mineral/vitamin imbalances. I mean if youāre feeling great maybe a little tweak will make you feel awesome. And for some, they find it. And for others it is a quest.
So if someone puts up their full blood work and their TSA is at 4.5 then they need to do something about that to be optimized. TRT wonāt fully fix them as that may be a problem. If their vitamin D level is at a 20 then again they need to fix that. The list goes on and on. Then an endocrinologist pops into the forum and says all of his TRT patients take boron every day and explains why. Then the guys still has anxiety issues while on TRT so needs to supplement with magnesium at night to calm his shit down. So now you have a guy on levothyroxine, vitamin D3, boron, and magnesium glycinate (and maybe others) just to get him to where he needs to be. Why they are deficient is anyones guess but they are. Now you can say you donāt believe in supplementation or āchasing numbersā but sometimes it just makes sense to be your best self.
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Gotcha. Im on board with you guys. Im sure I will want to tweak a thing or two. Thanks for clarifying things. Carry on!
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@johann77 I answered your questions.
When you have a chanceā¦
Sorry for the late reply.
Unfortunately I donāt have a real solution to your problem. The only drug in your regimen that is known to alter electrolyte/fluid homeostasis is the T and this seems to the confirmed by the description about the variation in your symptoms.
What I would do
- talk to the cardiologist about this observation and the possibility of adding a low dose diuretic (but as mentioned by @unreal24278 electrolytes in particular potassium needs to be monitored, but this is something the doc can provide you with more and better info)
- out of curiosity change the injection frequency to eod and thereby reduce the peaks and observe whether it has an impact on your symptoms.
Sweating is also something that has changed since I am on TRT, especially when exercising (running or cycling) I sweat like crazy.
Welcome to the land of sebaceous gland hypertrophy
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This may solve the problem. The day before injection I seem to be at normal weight. I lose the water. So before I go EOD, I will inject 48-50 mg 2x a week (total 96-100 mg).
I was injecting closer to 120 split in 2. I did get angry within 6 to 24 hours after injection. So that may have been too much.
Thatās why I would love to hear @physioLojik explain why no one should be doing frequent injections . If it becomes obvious that me injecting more than 50 mg at once causes fluid balance issues.
PS- in the future I may decide to get off of T. If I was borderline heart failure - that can cause low t and a ED from my research. I would only do this if my heart is fully recovered. Again this all happened pretty acutely 2 years ago over a a few weeks where I was getting severe heart paps, insomnia, sweats , very high blood pressure readings. Thatās when they measured my t twice and it was in the 200s. Even though I went to a cardiologist they did not do echo back then or check blood for any acute heart episode I may have had. The cardiomyopathy was officially diagnosed a few months are.
Im sort of new to this stuff. what is the lemon water for ?