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I know you switched to im from Subq like I did.
My numbers were much better on im. I switched back to Subq. Not sure if I decide to increase my free t if I should increase my Subq dose or switch back to im.
On im I believe my hct is closer to 49. Now it’s closer to 46.
Quit stressing so much Charlie!! Tell your mom to quit bringing all that Italian down home cooked good stuff to your house and you’ll be just fine! Lol
Yeah but you gotta remember that this is your bloodline, NOT the ratio you should have on your plate every evening!!! Lmao!!
Let’s hope my cardiac mri Wednesday is good. I do not agree with the echo results. I can Sprint for 3 minutes and not get short of breathe.
I’m standing with you buddy. Hoping for good news and keep us updated.
If you feel good, id stick with it. If you want a little more free T, id say instead of increasing dose just do IM. But you do whats best for you.
Super interesting that you are able to keep DHEA up there nicely with 10mg of DHEA.
I just started supplementing yesterday, 25mg in the AM. today was day 2…
Was DHEA something that you noticed took effect within a few days? Hours?
how long after your initial dose did you check labs also?>
After about 4 weeks. Not sure if I noticed anything. I just took cause number was very low normal.
In what way were number better on IM? Were you test levels higher? I went to injections and decided to do subq and my numbers were lower than I expected with my first labs. I was injecting 20mg daily and only hit around 600. I have wondered if IM would possibly give me better numbers than subq but I thought it was usually the other way around.
No difference once you got up to the higher levels? Well you weren’t complaining of symptoms though. So makes sense you wouldn’t “feel” anything, right?
Did if affect E2?
E2 still about 23. I think my fat loss is changing how I convert the testosterone.
I think I feel some warm feeling a bit after I take it.
I don’t know if my case is useful. I switched back to subq a couple months ago and have not went to levels I had when first on subq. My free t was a bit above mid range on sub q before. Plus I went from 90 subq to 100 im. So I changed 2 things.
I guess when I get sick on subq will do im again. Unless I feel really stable then I may not change to im
After my cardiac scan Wednesday and I get good news I will increase my dose to 108 mg on subq. And do labs in a month or so.
I also starting taking metformin when I switched to subq and I gather that may have affect my Lower levels.
I really like my hctat 46-47 on Im it got close to 50 which may not be a bad thing anyway.
Also trying to figure out if I want to be on metformin long term. I did lose about 4-5% fat.
Thanks for sharing this information
Bro I’m reading your last few months posts and here’s what I’ve learned and suggest you do. It’s important for you to realize the benefits of free t and estrogen. Right now your free t is very low and so is estrogen. Many of the symptoms you describe are Marin likely due to both being lower than where most men find symptom resolution.
Estrogen produced half or so of the beneficial effects men are looking for in trt. From libido , muscle and fat loss. Including cv health and more.
For most men it’s being found that we need more free t than expected. This is because we have so many toxins / EDCs that need to be overpowered with more free t as well.
The ranges being discussed were much higher last year and years before. I would never reference ranges. It’s waste of effort imo.
Also the fact that they report total in a different range than free t needs to be looked at. If my total is in PG my free t level
Should fall within PG ranges not NG.
Most men in our group are finding that they were keeping estrogen low and they thought they felt great. We convince them to stop worrying about estrogen and give the body more free t and estrogen. Over and over again we see posts being thrown up by men who say “I didn’t want to believe all this estrogen is going to make me feel better or that a higher free t is healthy. But it is and I had no clue I could feel healthier than I already was”.
You can look up the estrogen benefits in men and EDCs. More and more men are finding they are not resolving stoms because they simply are not taking enough to overcome.
Obviously with your situation regarding the heart is a bit complex, but I would go for one of the docs like Keith nichols, Eric Serrano, and a few others I know and discuss this with them. Your current trt doc isn’t really doing you any favors by keeping your free t and estrogen on the low end.
I know most will respond with some opposing views. However ther evidence is on my side and once we look at the literature we realize what I’m saying is true. It’s jsut bro science has prevailed for so long in trt that it’s hard to
Realize the new direction we should head towards.
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So I got my cardiac mri done. The ejection fraction is at 45%. So I have mild cardiomyopathy.
Nothing enlarged.no thickness. Valves all good. Dr said to followup in 6 months.
Dr does not want to treat because heart looks good other than ejection fraction.
Ejection fraction suppose to be over 55 percent.
Am not happy about this. a bit worried because am only 42.
Is there anything you can do to increase it Charlie?
Perhaps a beta blocker. Am sure when he said we can try meds that’s what he meant. But he recommends holding off on meds.
He said I have no restrictions. And can run a marathon if I wanted to.
I just messaged him seeing if we need a stress test since we don’t know how heart functions during stress.
I read with a lower ejection like I have they may do angiogram the invasive one with catheter. I had the Angio CT scan in December that showed zero plaque.
Plan to do new echo in 6 months. Unless he responds to my message and orders stress test.
Unreal cause I can run and no shortness of breath. But I wonder if my complaint that HR takes hours to return to normal is an indication of reduced function. The heart rate goes up to compensate the reduced ejection.
If it takes that long to recover there’s definitely something wrong.
My hr after I stop exercising does go from 160 to 115 within a minute. But stays close to 100 for a few hours.
Your CV needs work. DIdnyou read my post above?
