[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]theOUTLAW wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
Ummmm…not quite what I said. The diagram is a fairly accurate representation of current ways of thinking. I felt that your interpretation of it was wrong.
Your very last statement…that the first step should be to calm them down…correct, but ONLY IF THE SITUATION ALLOWS IT.
I’m starting to get the impression that you live in a bubble, frankly…one where physical force is never necessary.
Unfortunately, contrary to what some folks would like to believe, sometimes violence is the answer. Sometimes, force has to be used.
Using this video as an example…the woman was a threat to public safety. She had committed a crime. She was then immediately arrested. There is no “reasoning” to be done at this point. There is no “calming down” to be done. There is simply the mechanical action of physically placing her under arrest. That’s it.
The woman had already clearly demonstrated her unwillingness to comply. The assumption she was going to continue is not a huge leap to make.
Frankly, I’m not sure why you are continuing to beat this horse. There was nothing untoward or incorrect about the methods or tactics used. We aren’t going to just surround her once the car is stopped, set a perimeter, and call SWAT and hostage negotiators to talk her out of the vehicle. [/quote]
The first thing I would have done when the window was smashed was pull the keys out of the ignition. Bad idea?[/quote]
Yes. I agree. He should have reached down and depressed the brake pedal with his left hand while reaching up and shifting the car into Park with his right hand simultaneously. Once he did that, he could have easily turned the car off and removed the keys…or he should have reached across her lap and put the car into neutral, pulled the parking brake, and then removed the keys. Seems simple enough, especially since the lady wasn’t fleeing from the police or being combative in any manner.[/quote]
Ah fuck. I’m an idiot. You got me there. I’m out of here and will shut-up on this, I’m way too short-sighted with my posts. Lesson learned.
Later.[/quote]
Yes you are. Here is the solution:
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