Hey everyone! Longtime lurker, first time poster!
I am starting my third cycle at the beginning of January and I had a couple questions. First, some stats: I am 5foot8, 195lbs, ~13%BF and have been training for about 6 years.
My cycle will be:
Weeks 1-8: 75mg Tren A EOD
Weeks 1-8: 115mg Test P EOD
Week 9: Nolva 40mg ED
Week 10: Nolva 30mg ED
Week 11-12: Nolva 20mg ED
I was wondering what I should have on hand during the cycle, as I have never tried Tren before and am worried about some of the side effects. I have been reading about Prolactin/Progesterone related gyno and heard that keeps estrogen levels down DURING cycle may help to combat this, so I was thinking something along the lines of .25mg Arimidex EOD.
Goals for the cycle are lean mass, but mainly strength. I will be eating about ~2000kcal above maintainance and training using a modified Shieko program.
Any suggestions on what to have on hand, just in case? Any comments or critisism about the cycle? Thank you in advance.
Inject tren ace ED, otherwise the side effects may be more pronounced, and hormone levels won’t be as stable. Wait one week before starting PCT to let the AAS get out of the system a bit. The PCT regime looks good, but week 12 you might just want 10mg ED. At that low dose you shouldn’t need anything for the tren as far as progestogenic sides. You may not need an AI for 400mg/wk test, but .25mg Adex would be a good idea to have on hand. Or if sides appear just use Nolva until you order some Adex, and since you may not need it you could potentially save some money. I wouldn’t suggest eating 2000kg above maintenance, at least if you’re talking an extra 2000/day. 2000/wk is good, but 2000/day and you’ll get chubby, even with what you’re taking. I think the cycle looks solid, with the minor changes I suggested.
Thanks for the quick reply! My past two cycles have been TestE 500/week and TestE 500/week with a 40mg a day D-Bol start for 4 weeks. Both cycles were 12 weeks long and I had amazing gains with no gyno symptoms whatsoever, so my current plan, by your recommendations is to hold off on ordering the Arimidex.
I did experience some mean bloat on TestE though, but I heard it is less pronounced with Prop and that would be combated with Adex, but I still think I will just wait.
With my previous two cycles (pure, full out mass) I ate like a madman and it showed, I gained about 30 and 25lbs respectively (and kept about 22 and 18). So I guess with a lean mass cycle, the goal isn’t to just go all out with kcal as pro. utilization/synthesis is increased, making gains without necessarily bulking extremely, correct?
Also, if anyone is interesting in me keeping a log, just let me know. I will keep one anyway, but if you would like me to post it, I might dig this thread up in January.
Thanks again!
Sorry, just a quick bump.
I also have 90 tabs of 10mg Oral Turinabol that I want to use up. DO you think it would be best at the beginning or the end of my cycle? And in what doses? Or do you think I should save it as I have never tried Tren before and I really don’t want to compound any sides.
Any real use for 90 tabs of OT? I’ve been trying to fit it in places but it never seems to work!
Maybe a quick 3 week cycle some time as a standalone with 40mg a day?
Leave out the OT. No need to complicate things.
Control your diet and eat clean food. Id personally use the .25mg of adex EOD and definately change to ED injections as was already mentioned.
Roate your injections sites. Im sure you have already figured part out, but it doesnt hurt to have it as a reminder.