Tren Induced ED and PE

Test has improved my lipid profile somewhat. I am going to be very strict with myself, and only do 6 weeks of the var. I do believe that AAS should be used carefully, and with a view that looks decades down the road.

I am in a weird spot physique wise. I think if I lost about 25 lbs without losing to much muscle, I would look jacked (probably need AAS for that). I look good with a shirt on, but not so much shirtless.

I am hoping for a bit of recomp, especially if strength goes up.

I will need your advice good friend and will give it time!

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You are in good hands on this forum. What you are going though is tough, and will take time. I have pretty good knowledge, but lack somewhat in experience. I have only used test, but in a few weeks start var.

Many valuable resources here. Has @blshaw commented on this post? He has experience with ED from deca and recovered. Experience is worth a bunch here, but I would wager he would give some overlapping advice, but might have something else to add. People like @unreal24278 @zeek1414 @Singhbuilder and @blshaw are all going to be solid. I am sure I am forgetting someone.

Yea I think anavar had a role in my Ed as well but we’re getting it figured out :muscle:t2:

It could in several ways. Increased BP I don’t think helps. Anavar does not aromatize, but will increase free test. If free test is higher, E2 will be higher. E2 is something that can cause issues.

Those are two things that can cause erection issues. I am sure there are more.

FWIW, I do know people who have had issues on only test @ 500 mg/wk.

It’s neurological, I’ll explain more later. But many a times it isn’t E2 or anything like that, it’s related to neurotransmitters and the effect synthetic hormones in large dosages have on neurotransmission

I’ll agree that 19-nors can cause neurological changes especially related to dopamine. Is there much OP can do about that? My understanding (could be wrong) is that fixing those issues is more a matter of time. OP also stated that he was running 100-150 mg of tren for only 4 weeks. That is not a huge dose, or a long time but tren is quite powerful?

I gave advice of lowering cruise dose as that could also be an issue (or issue could very well be multifaceted), and I would rather eliminate as many potential causes of the issue as possible.

I would love to hear more on the neurological argument whenever you have the time my friend

Man you guys are so helpful it really gives me hope. I haven’t been able to even think about entertaining females just Bec I don’t want to disappoint and I use to be a tiger!

@iron_yuppie

Very true! Thanks! Also, @dextermorgan might have insight on this.

Normally, I would not tag so many, but OP seems to be receptive to advice, which is unusual (people ask for advice and then say they will do what they planned anyways, all the time on here).

@heretolearn123
Your TRT dose (250mg/week) is likely too high. 220mg gave me a lot of issues that I don’t have on 185-200mg/week. Regardless with things like libido and erection quality you need to be on the same dose for quite a while before you start getting consistent positive effects. You started cruising in October so I’d bet by February you’d be in much better shape than you are now libido & erection wise. Dropping to <200mg may make that take longer but the sooner you do it the better. Staying consistent for a long enough time fixes most issues. Every time I increased or decreased dose by even 20mg my libido would be very low for 2-3 months and then I’d wake up one day and it was back.

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Any dose of any exogenous hormone can damage an individual. It depends on the individuals response. So a dose as low as 200mg Tren can have big consequences on someone, where 900mg may not om another.

In this case, I think it could now just be a mental issue or mild performance anxiety. Its happened to me before. I’ve killed my erections with my overthinking and being scared of not performing after I failed a first time. I think you need to just relax, you will recover even if you have an issue, and relax if you dont have an issue because your brain can create one.

SB

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Guilty as charged. After my initial ED episodes manifested from Nandrolone I started over thinking it and killing my ā€œmojoā€. I don’t have a magic bullet for you. Mine was cured with time and a proper TRT protocol.

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Thank you guys for your advice. Very educational. Seems like I need to find my right dose levels and maintain them and give it time. Feels like I’m headed in the right direction with what I’ve been able to hear from you all. Once I finish thiseet I will go to 175 mg weekly. Would you suggest dropping arimidex entirely or altering dose?

I think you should find a dose that balances you with optimal T levels and doesn’t require an AI. Your labs from above IMO are too aggressive with the Testosterone. Lower the dose and retest in 6-8 weeks. Try no AI during that time and see how you feel.

So you are going from 250 down to 175mg a week? Sounds reasonable based on labs above.

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Another option regarding estrogen is daily nolvadex. Physiolojik (endocrinologist, gave out some great advice, whatever happened to that guy?) stated that he had all of his TRT patients on daily nolva. As has been mentioned, taking an AI (such as arimidex) can lower estrogen by too much.

Also, read it on here but forget who was giving the info: when starting TRT, your test levels are jumping up from the low state they were in (obviously the reason for starting TRT in the first place). When there is a rise in test, there will be a rise in e2 levels (as has also been stated here). What is odd, is that after some time consistently on TRT, e2 levels will normalize and drop somewhat, thus negating the need for an AI. I ran into that when I started TRT several years ago - I was taking aromasin daily, and after a month or two in, I started having ED issues. Lowered the aromasin dose, then went to EOD, and eventually (after reading the above info) just quit taking it and the ED issues resolved.

Did he mention the amount of nolva? And also thank you very much for your reply

The reason for the slow e2 decline should be a downregulation of the gene expression of the aromatase enzyme.