Fair enough.
OMG.
Just had the WORST CRAMP in my calf muscle during my sleep. It was terrible. I’m thinking that’s the Tren Ace because that never happened to me on my solo Test Prop cycle previously. Would others agree?
I can barely walk now…I’m going to up water intake and add taurine me thinks.
LES.
Yep, water and taurine. bananas and honey dew melons…
Wouldn’t hurt to take some magnesium supplements, too. That’s helped me prevent painful hamstring cramps in my left leg. Potassium probably isn’t a bad idea either, but I really don’t believe that it’s involved in cramping as much as some might suggest.
Did you homebrew?
I wouldn’t say it’s Tren because that happened to me on Test E. Couldn’t walk right the next day or two and felt it for at least 3 days.
Thanks for all the advice in terms of cramps, you guys are seriously the best support group.
The gear is homebrew, I didn’t brew it myself, I got it off a guy who brews quality stuff, have gotten all my stuff off him in the past and it has been great.
I doubt it is the Test, as I’ve used Test P and Test E in the past without cramp issues. So I’m guessing that this is indeed the Tren Ace, a quick google search also revealed that Tren Ace and cramps are not mutually exclusive by a long shot! As a result, have upped the water, started eating bananas (despite trying to be on a low carb diet lol) and will add taurine/magnesium supps when I get a chance to buy them, probably on Monday.
Today I went out for a bit and it was a pretty hot day, but MAN WAS I SWEATING. It seemed so much more than usual. I’m not sure if I can blame the gear, or whether it is in my head, but I was literally soaked.
Did shoulders and traps at the gym today, nice workout but no noticeable strength gains yet, although I’m not even 5 days into cycle so don’t anticipate results for a little wihle yet. Oh and I’m going to use this thread as a type of log now lol. Thanks boys.
LES.
You dont know that it was the tren, unless youve used tren alone and the problem occured.
total androgen level may be to blame.
Ah okay, thanks mate…either way have to work against the cramps lol.
Did back today at the gym, ever so slight strength gains, but perhaps in my head again. Deadlifts were solid, overall good workout.
Sweating is def. an issue for me, I’ve had a few people comment on how much I am sweating. No other noticeable sides yet.
Jabbed thigh today, not a pleasant site. Pec is still my favourite, I know it sounds a little abstract, but the pain is minimal and there was ZERO pain the next day, unless I physically touch the site. I seriously cannot reccomend the site enough for guys having to shoot ED or EOD.
More updates tommorow.
LES.
Trained chest today, noticed a difference and I doubt its mental. The workout was more intense, all lifts were up slightly, endurance was up. Also the typical ‘feeling’ has started to kick in. So I’d say, almost a week in, it is ‘starting’ to work.
Last night, woke up a a bit sweaty, but not bad and nowhere near as bad as I’ve read up, where some people say they wake up absolutely soaked. It is hot here at the moment.
Sweating during the day, as above, a clear issue and not a constant one, when I do sweat, its bad. If I’m not sweating, I’m fine.
No other major sides, seems the trick of lowish Test is working thus far.
Jabbed my other thigh today, again, not pleasant. Going to find another site to use tommorow…
Are you familiar with the ventrogluteal site?
Yep, its a great site. Was sort of ‘saving’ it for later if that makes sense lol, I want all my experimentation in terms of sites done early.
Looks like its going to be ventroglute tonight though, as I’m not fond of trap, bicep or tricep shots…
Trained legs yesterday.
Again strenth/endurance seems up, not by a lot, but its def up. I have been on cycle exactly one week now. Tonight will be my 8th shot.
Haven’t noticed a strong shortness of breath yet, although I haven’t been doing much cardio as of recent.
Only one side so far, sweating during the day. Oh and I’m always hungry which is making keeping a low carb/low calorie diet hard. The food seems to evaoporate. I wonder how much food I can get away with? Anyone with experience have any input?
Trained shoulders. All lifts are up, the gear is really starting to kick in. Not up by lots, but definite strength/endurance gains. Been on cycle around 1.5 weeks now…can’t wait for next week.
Sides: Sweat during day, puffy nipples, not hard/itchy, juts slightly puffy (but fine when they ‘go hard’). That is normal for me when on cycle, so not too concerned. No night sweats, no insomnia/chills, no acne, no hair loss, no mental issues (thanking the ED shots for that).
Injecting ED is getting annoying lol. So far have rotated between shoulders, pecs, thighs, ventroglutes. Thinking of adding trap…and that SHOULD be okay, depending on how scar tissue goes.
Still very hungry, but keeping the food down. Overall happy so far.
LES.
Okay guys, looks like I’ve got Tren Gyno happening. My nipples are now puffy AND itchy at times, no lactating, no lumps.
Advice here would be appreciated, should I lower the tren dosage and see how I go? (ATM I am running 70mg ED).
I have nolva and winstrol on hand, I can get adex within a few days.
Not panicking yet, just want to have everything under control before things DO become serious.
Thanks.
LES.
Also I’m at a loss as to whether this is prolactin related, or progesterone…or even estrogen (doubt it given the low test prop dose).
[quote]LiftEatSleep wrote:
Trained shoulders. All lifts are up, the gear is really starting to kick in. Not up by lots, but definite strength/endurance gains. Been on cycle around 1.5 weeks now…can’t wait for next week.
Sides: Sweat during day, puffy nipples, not hard/itchy, juts slightly puffy (but fine when they ‘go hard’). That is normal for me when on cycle, so not too concerned. No night sweats, no insomnia/chills, no acne, no hair loss, no mental issues (thanking the ED shots for that).
Injecting ED is getting annoying lol. So far have rotated between shoulders, pecs, thighs, ventroglutes. Thinking of adding trap…and that SHOULD be okay, depending on how scar tissue goes.
Still very hungry, but keeping the food down. Overall happy so far.
LES.
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Do you know how long it takes for scar tissue to build up to problematic levels? That’s assuming you are injecting in the EXACT same spot every single time. You should be moving the needle around a bit throughout the site.
[quote]LiftEatSleep wrote:
Okay guys, looks like I’ve got Tren Gyno happening. My nipples are now puffy AND itchy at times, no lactating, no lumps.
Advice here would be appreciated, should I lower the tren dosage and see how I go? (ATM I am running 70mg ED).
I have nolva and winstrol on hand, I can get adex within a few days.
Not panicking yet, just want to have everything under control before things DO become serious.
Thanks.
LES. [/quote]
Tren gyno?
Wait are you not running the prop? Are you running tren solo?
If you are running test then that is your problem.
Puffy nipples is NOT gyno. It is a sign of estrogenic activity at the breast. Gyno takes time to set in.
Advice noted, in terms of scar tissue.
Thanks mate, I feel really noob right now.
I am running prop, at about, 30mg ED. So I guess I have estrogenic activity at the breast. So am I being paranoid? Should I do anything, lower prop? Or just sit it out, as the cycle is short. I don’t have gyno, just puffy/itchy nipples I guess…anyways, any advice appreciated.
I would slightly increase the Adex
If the puffiness and itchiness gets worse within the next few days use 60mg of nolvadex for a few days then taper it down while the new adex level builds up