[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
jp_dubya wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
phil_leotardo wrote:
Back on topic of Bush: fuck him. He messed up the country and left his party in such ruins that they had to turn to a limp wristed Republicrat like McCain solely because he was supposedly distanced from Bush. He is the worst president of my life and a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
“Limp Wristed” you would have sucked off every guards dick if you were put through 10 minutes of what McCain was put through in a POW camp.
How long was McCain a POW? longer than 187 days I am guessing
I don’t remember the exact duration of his captivity, but I beleive it was a couple of years at least. [/quote]
I love a good non sequitur in the afternoon.
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You might want to look up the definition of non sequtur if I were you. If president elect Obama became a Senator in 2004 that would be less than 5 years ago making the above statement true. A non sequitur is a statement that contains an illogical conclusion. How is that illogical?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You might want to look up the definition of non sequtur[/quote]
I’ll do that if you look up the spelling.
It’s the comparison between being held prisoner in a POW camp vs. being a US senator that’s nonsensical.
There are 2.3 million prisoners in the US. Do you think that those who are serving particularly long sentences would make great presidential candidates?
I could also say that McCain was in POW camp much longer than it takes me to cook an omelet. It’s 100% true, but I’m not sure what conclusion it supports.
[quote]pookie wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
You might want to look up the definition of non sequtur
I’ll do that if you look up the spelling.
If president elect Obama became a Senator in 2004 that would be less than 5 years ago making the above statement true. A non sequitur is a statement that contains an illogical conclusion. How is that illogical?
It’s the comparison between being held prisoner in a POW camp vs. being a US senator that’s nonsensical.
There are 2.3 million prisoners in the US. Do you think that those who are serving particularly long sentences would make great presidential candidates?
I could also say that McCain was in POW camp much longer than it takes me to cook an omelet. It’s 100% true, but I’m not sure what conclusion it supports.
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Like you equating being a POW and doing time in a US prison? Is that non sequitur?
Like you equating being a POW and doing time in a US prison? Is that non sequitur?
I’m sure a POW camp in Vietnam is much more educational. I’m surprised McCain didn’t bring a bunch of diplomas back with him.
Underachiever.
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WOW, seriously you might want to cull it right there, comparing a criminal with a REAL AMERICAN HERO, someone who gave everything for this country.
This man Graduated from Annapolis, he is a very intelligent man, But he is a man of action not of talk, and he would not be my first choice for president but you cannot take those things away from he is someone to look up to not a criminal.
I love a good non sequitur in the afternoon.
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Completely comparable
He gave more years in torture and agony loving and defending this country than Obama has spent doing anything for this country, even if did only hide behind the present button.
He gave more years in torture and agony loving and defending this country than Obama has spent doing anything for this country, even if did only hide behind the present button.[/quote]
Hey, those people did not imprison him because they hated your freedom, but because he actually dropped things on them from the sky.
Now that would be criminal in and of itself but these things went boom when they hit the ground, can you imagine that they were actually designed to kill people?
If that is what “loving and defending” America looks like I think the world need a lot less of it.
how do you know they are voting for some group interest? who are these black people who SHOULD be voting republican according to you but are too racially conscious to? do black people agree with republicans on many issues? I don’t think so… if they did, they’d be voting for Republicans. Just as black people switched from voting R to voting D when the parties changed; they’ll change back if Republicans offer them something. Voting patterns can change, people respond to incentives. [/quote]
I think it is more like racialist guided blind loyalty actually.
Many black voters are against gay marriage and abortion just to name a few.
That is president elect Obama’s church’s platform for a “black value system.” WTF is a “black value system” if we are all supposedly the same race of people in the 21st century where were judge people solely on the content of their character.
Speaking of racialist black preachers, listen to this guy constantly using plural possessives in this speech:
Or all of the black president celebrations…
[quote]valiance. wrote:
really? the party of strom thurmond and jesse helms isnt racist? jesus christ… the southern democrats you’re so fond of pointing to are almost to a man now members of the Republican party.
Actually it’s more like the mainstream media plays down when Democrats say racist things.
Here is Cris Dodd, a Democrat from Connecticut praising former KKK Democratic Senator Robert Byrd:
When senator after senator – including Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, and Bill Frist of Tennessee, the Republican majority leader – praised Mr. Byrd as a national treasure, Mr. Dodd said, ‘‘I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia that he would have been a great senator at any moment.’’
He added: ‘‘He would have been right at the founding of this country. He would have been in the leadership crafting this Constitution. He would have been right during the great conflict of Civil War in this nation. He would have been right at the great moments of international threat we faced in the 20th century.’’
Here is former KKK member Byrd casually throwing around the n-word only 7 years ago:
“My old mom told me, ‘Robert, you can’t go to heaven if you hate anybody.’ We practice that. There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I’m going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I’d just as soon quit talking about it so much.”
Speaking of racist Democrats, how about Senator Hollings from South Carolina:
“Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”
And here are a few from the recent lot of Democrats, including our Democratic elect vice president:
* “You cannot go into a Dunkin’ Donuts or a 7-Eleven unless you have a slight Indian accent.”
* "My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth largest black population in the country. My state is anything [but] a Northeastern liberal state."
* "I mean, you got the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy."
* "There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than 4% or 5% that is, are minorities. What is it in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with."
Today we begin with Hillary?s anti-Semitic slurs. In 1974 Hillary called Paul Fray, the campaign manager of then boyfriend Bill Clinton, a “f—ing Jew bastard.” This incident took place during a heated campaign meeting at Bill Clinton?s campaign headquarters on the night Bill lost his bid for Congress.
whats wrong with being against racialism? I just explained its faults in my view. you seem to be against it too, am I wrong?
and it kills me when white people complain about racism/racialism in America, as if ya’ll weren’t responsible for the whole goddamn thing in the first place. you’re seriously complaining about black racialism? [/quote]
Who is “Y’all”? And how am I personally responsible for starting racialism here?
[quote]valiance. wrote:
white people have been saying that blacks complain about racism too much for decades. guess what? its never been true. by and large, black people complain about racism because it exists. in the 1960s whites thought that everything was fine and dandy and that everything was equal… guess what? it wasnt… [/quote]
I know. But nowadays it it more like “I didn’t get served at Denny’s fast enough because I was black”, “I can’t get a cab”, “The police bother me”, or “I didn’t get a promotion at my job” as opposed to “The local KKK is stopping me from voting” or “Someone made me sit in the back of the bus” etc.
Phil,
After reading all this and actually listening to the idiotic drivel by the rapper guy:
“History, Black History
No President Ever Did Shit For Me
Had To Hit The Streets Try To Flip Some Keys
So A Nigga Wont Go Broke
Then They Put Us In Jail Now A Nigga Cant Go Vote
So I Spend Dough All These Hoes Is Trippin
She Aint A Politician Honeys A Polotician
My President Is Black Rolls Golden Charms
22 Inch Rims Like Hulk Hogans Arms
When Thousands Of People Is Riled Up To See You
That Can Arouse Ya Ego You Got Mouths To Feed So
Gotta Stay Tru To Who You Are And Where You Came From
Cuz At The Top Will Be The Same Place You Hang From
No Matter How Big You Can Ever Be
For Whatever Fee Or Publicity Never Lose Your Integrity
For Years Theres Been Surprise Horses In This Stable
Just Two Albums In I?m The Realest Nigga On This Label
Mr Black President Yeah Obama Fa Reel”
I am now convinced that we are doomed. Getting close to moving to my vacation home, far away from all this.
[quote]pookie wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
You might want to look up the definition of non sequtur
I’ll do that if you look up the spelling.
If president elect Obama became a Senator in 2004 that would be less than 5 years ago making the above statement true. A non sequitur is a statement that contains an illogical conclusion. How is that illogical?
It’s the comparison between being held prisoner in a POW camp vs. being a US senator that’s nonsensical.
There are 2.3 million prisoners in the US. Do you think that those who are serving particularly long sentences would make great presidential candidates?
I could also say that McCain was in POW camp much longer than it takes me to cook an omelet. It’s 100% true, but I’m not sure what conclusion it supports.
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There is a difference between being a POW and one of the 2.3 million prisoners. McCain was fighting for his country and the 2.3 million at some point broke the law. To compare the two is just ridiculous.
[quote]pookie wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
You might want to look up the definition of non sequtur
I’ll do that if you look up the spelling.
I’m sorry I didn’t realize this was English class I’ll make sure and double check my spelling from now on. I’m sure the wrong spelling took away from my point so I’ll be more careful in the future.
He gave more years in torture and agony loving and defending this country than Obama has spent doing anything for this country, even if did only hide behind the present button.
Hey, those people did not imprison him because they hated your freedom, but because he actually dropped things on them from the sky.
Now that would be criminal in and of itself but these things went boom when they hit the ground, can you imagine that they were actually designed to kill people?
If that is what “loving and defending” America looks like I think the world need a lot less of it.
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I suppose you were against stopping Nazi Germany in WWII or maybe you would enjoy speaking Japanese? Just because you don’t like war doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and no soldier or Marine wants to kill anyone else, but it is their duty.
He gave more years in torture and agony loving and defending this country than Obama has spent doing anything for this country, even if did only hide behind the present button.
Hey, those people did not imprison him because they hated your freedom, but because he actually dropped things on them from the sky.
Now that would be criminal in and of itself but these things went boom when they hit the ground, can you imagine that they were actually designed to kill people?
If that is what “loving and defending” America looks like I think the world need a lot less of it.
I suppose you were against stopping Nazi Germany in WWII or maybe you would enjoy speaking Japanese? Just because you don’t like war doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and no soldier or Marine wants to kill anyone else, but it is their duty. [/quote]
He gave more years in torture and agony loving and defending this country than Obama has spent doing anything for this country, even if did only hide behind the present button.
Hey, those people did not imprison him because they hated your freedom, but because he actually dropped things on them from the sky.
Now that would be criminal in and of itself but these things went boom when they hit the ground, can you imagine that they were actually designed to kill people?
If that is what “loving and defending” America looks like I think the world need a lot less of it.
I suppose you were against stopping Nazi Germany in WWII or maybe you would enjoy speaking Japanese? Just because you don’t like war doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist and no soldier or Marine wants to kill anyone else, but it is their duty.
Oh, I guess it makes it ok then.
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I remember hearing this quote once, “If a man has the ability to stop evil he has the responsibility to stop it.”
Yes in many cases it is not only okay, but very necessary in my opinion.