Did this child deserve to die I don’t think so. This wacko hunted him down. This is expected when any quack has access to a gun. This guy wa sto afraid to comment or turn himself in. Seems like he had a guilty conscience from the start. Lawyered up right away as well chicken shit pussy hiding behind the legal system after he goes rogue. Pussy.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
St. Trayvon allegedly grabbed the concealed pistol and Zimmerman shot him.[/quote]
Or maybe Zimmerman pulled out a gun while in a fist fight and Martin grabbed for the gun - a perfectly reasonable reaction.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
This, but they may have overplayed their hand a little with the ridiculous racebaiting by the POTUS and on the congressional floor, among others.
[/quote]
POTUS has enough on his hands with his spy ring. But I will say he lost a whole lot of respect when they marched the Sandy Hook children into congress to gain sympathy for a bill that would not take one gun or bullet off the street.
Not sure how this case seems to confuse so many. I mean it’s simple. TRULY simple as AC stated if you ever lived in areas like this or been in any real confrontations and not just seen them In movies or read about them.
Let’s forget for a second that Zimmerman and Martin have had run in with the Authorities both involving violence and stupidity.
Martin was walking THIS IS A FACT.
Zimmerman was driving Another Fact.
Martin Ran, Zimmerman followed.
They met and struggled and Zimmerman shot Martin.
Do I think he shot him because he was scared for his life YES.
Do I think he placed himself in that position YES
If he truly cared about his neighbors he would have taken a second and thought about the homes on all three sides in range of a stray bullet and Never left his car.
It’s hard for me to give an ADULT especially an ADULT with a CCW a pass for action that could endanger the lives of others
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Then YOU are a fucking pussy as well if you need a fucking gun in a fist fight. To fight a guy who was 5’11" tall and weighed 158 lbs. The guy weighed less than a BUCK SIXTY!!!
To put that in context, Zimmerman weighed over 200 lbs. That’s FOUR weight classes more than Martin! And he needed a fucking GUN?! Gimme a fucking break. He SHOT a black kid that he “thought” was a criminal.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
St. Trayvon allegedly grabbed the concealed pistol and Zimmerman shot him.[/quote]
Or maybe Zimmerman pulled out a gun while in a fist fight and Martin grabbed for the gun - a perfectly reasonable reaction.
[/quote]
Sure. But the State has the burden of proof to prove that and has no evidence to support it, so the State loses and Zimmerman walks.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.
[quote]Jlabs wrote:
Did this child deserve to die I don’t think so. This wacko hunted him down. This is expected when any quack has access to a gun. This guy wa sto afraid to comment or turn himself in. Seems like he had a guilty conscience from the start. Lawyered up right away as well chicken shit pussy hiding behind the legal system after he goes rogue. Pussy.[/quote]
He stood there, waited for the police, gave a statement to the police and only got a lawyer after being charged.
Zimmerman is a dumbass without making things up.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
There were plenty of charges they could have brought against Zimmerman that would have stuck ---- negligent homicide comes to mind* — but the prosecutor is hell bent on grandstanding.
As a result, he will walk either now or on appeal.
- Negligent homicide would work because all the stupid shit Zimmerman did becomes relevant. In the murder case, it’s pretty much “did Zimmerman reasonable fear grevious bodily harm?” Well, given that Zimmerman was getting his head beat in and screaming like the bitch that he is, I’d say yes.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Twist it all you want, Beans. I believe I specifically said I would NOT beat anyone with the intention of killing them, much less shoot them in a fist fight, but whatever - nice strawman. [/quote]
That is not my intention, and I apologize. Let me try it this way:
There are three issues with this case, in my view.
- Media Circus - we largely agree (i’m assuming a little here based on your posts) that it is foolish and creating problems that shouldn’t exist.
[/quote]We are in 100% agreement on point #1. [quote]
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Zimmerman’s Judgment - In hindsight, it was poor. (If poor isn’t a strong enough word, feel free to replace it with whatever word you feel appropriate.) However, he had every reason to question why Martin was in the area. This is where the issue begins. You don’t feel Zimmerman had the justification for confronting Martian. I do. I have watched shady looking people that have walked past my house, until they are well out of eyesight before, and would be appreciative of my neighbors that did the same.
[/quote]You WATCHED the shady people. You want your neighbors to WATCH the shady people. I have no problem whatsoever with WATCHING out for shady people. I do have a problem with SHOOTING them.[quote]
I don’t have a problem with Zimmerman’s intention, and his intention was to prevent a crime. I do understand your perspective of it though too. But the over riding factor he for me is his involvement in the Watch and his promise to his neighbors (through his involvement in the Watch) to act on their best interests and not just his own.
[/quote]He was not on duty. He was carrying a firearm (against watch regulations). He was essentially out looking for trouble. With a gun. That’s a far cry of carrying out neighborhood watch duties.[quote]
To some people this makes him a jerk and a wanna-be cop. I guess to a degree, I agree. But in a bigger picture sense I fall onto the side of “he was doing what he promised he would do, which is watch the neighborhood.”
[/quote]But he didn’t WATCH the neighborhood. He KILLED someone.[quote]
I think it is pretty obvious he didn’t intent to murder Martin. As few people would alert the police through detailed 911 calls that they were about to kill a person. -
The confrontation - This is where I’m confused by your posts. You describe how you would beat on someone, quite violently, and go on to explain why that is the case. You describe having been in a similar situation as presented in this case, and how you would beat a man, but not with the intention of killing him. BAsed on what you’ve written, I’m not sure it would be clear to the person you were beating, that you weren’t trying to kill them. More-over, if someone is bouncing the other’s head off the pavement, or otherwise ontop/in control and continuing to beat on the losing party, I don’t expect the losing party to just assume “he isn’t going to kill me” particularly after your description of those types of situations.
[/quote]The “confrontation” is that a 200 pound grown MAN chased down a 160 pound 17 year old KID, got his ass kicked and shot the kid dead. [quote]
So here is where I stand on this portion of the issue. If Zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, pushing, shoving or swinging, then he should go to prison, for a long time. If however MArtian initiated the physical confrontation, Zimmerman should walk. Based on what I’ve read, and let’s be honest it isn’t like the press is pro-Zimmerman, and the descriptions of the two’s past and character… I tend to believe Martian more likely than not played a significant role in this going from verbal to physical altercation. Martian certainly put Zimmerman in a fight or flight, “deadly battle” position after the physical altercation started.
[/quote]Again, he picked a fight with a smaller kid and lost. So he shot him.[quote]
Conversely, I think it is safe to say the man that just got done telling the police he was approaching a suspicious person, didn’t attack the unarmed innocent kid that simply said “fuck you buddy I’m walking home”. If he did that would make him the dumbest criminal on Earth. That would make Zimmerman the Obama of Neighborhood Watches. Possible, but unlikely.
So, even though it is valid to say Zimmerman should have stayed in the car. It is also valid to say that Martian should have just said “fuck you buddy, I’m walking home.”
[/quote]We’ll never know what Zimmerman said. Or how he initiated the confrontation and allowed it to escalate to physical violence. But one thing is clear: HE STARTED IT.[quote]
[quote] He’ll either be convicted and get shanked in prison or he’ll be acquitted and look over his shoulder until someone shoots his pathetic ass. I personally hope it’s the latter, as it would be the most fitting.
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
Someone losing while “doing battle on deadly ground”?
[/quote]
Again, when a 200 pound MAN, picks a fight with a 158 pound KID and LOSES, he ought to be able to take his licks like a man instead of shooting the kid. Seriously, how the fuck can you not protect yourself against someone who weighs 40 pounds less than you? Bouncing his head off the pavement? Please. It’s bullshit. Anyone who’s ever been in a fight or even “wrastled” someone 40 pounds less than themselves will know that this is fucking bullshit.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.[/quote]
I agree with you and JB that he’ll probably walk with what he’s being charged with (and hopefully gets a taste of his own medicine down the line). What I DON’T agree with is all the talk on this thread that Zimmerman was “well within his rights” to shoot him and that “I’d have shot him too” and how they “hope” he walks. That’s some fucking BULLSHIT.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain
sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support
this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.[/quote]
I agree with you and JB that he’ll probably walk with what he’s being charged with (and hopefully gets a taste of his own medicine down the line). What I DON’T agree with is all the talk on this thread that Zimmerman was “well within his rights” to shoot him and that “I’d have shot him too” and how they “hope” he walks. That’s some fucking BULLSHIT.[/quote]
HA! Man most of that is some guys trying to pick a Internet fight, some is from people angry at the Black & white rants from TV news and has little to do with the real case. And the few who do know the case and defend ALL of Zimmerman actions an not just the 2 second between his ass kicking and him pulling the trigger are just some sad confused angry motherfuckers.
The truth is Zimmerman didn’t fall into a Lions den and he wasn’t pushed in either. Zim slathered his ass in Zebra Gravy and walked into danger Ringing a
bell yelling come and get it. And if you defend that them you need to take a long look at yourself.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain
sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support
this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.[/quote]
I agree with you and JB that he’ll probably walk with what he’s being charged with (and hopefully gets a taste of his own medicine down the line). What I DON’T agree with is all the talk on this thread that Zimmerman was “well within his rights” to shoot him and that “I’d have shot him too” and how they “hope” he walks. That’s some fucking BULLSHIT.[/quote]
HA! Man most of that is some guys trying to pick a Internet fight, some is from people angry at the Black & white rants from TV news and has little to do with the real case. And the few who do know the case and defend ALL of Zimmerman actions an not just the 2 second between his ass kicking and him pulling the trigger are just some sad confused angry motherfuckers.
The truth is Zimmerman didn’t fall into a Lions den and he wasn’t pushed in either. Zim slathered his ass in Zebra Gravy and walked into danger Ringing a
bell yelling come and get it. And if you defend that them you need to take a long look at yourself.
[/quote]
Agreed. LUV the analogy - LMAO
I feel as if they are both at fault, no one will win or lose. Martin lost his life and Zimm’s life is ruined. I agree with others that he will walk but like Chicken said, he may get killed later on don the road.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain
sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support
this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.[/quote]
I agree with you and JB that he’ll probably walk with what he’s being charged with (and hopefully gets a taste of his own medicine down the line). What I DON’T agree with is all the talk on this thread that Zimmerman was “well within his rights” to shoot him and that “I’d have shot him too” and how they “hope” he walks. That’s some fucking BULLSHIT.[/quote]
HA! Man most of that is some guys trying to pick a Internet fight, some is from people angry at the Black & white rants from TV news and has little to do with the real case. And the few who do know the case and defend ALL of Zimmerman actions an not just the 2 second between his ass kicking and him pulling the trigger are just some sad confused angry motherfuckers.
The truth is Zimmerman didn’t fall into a Lions den and he wasn’t pushed in either. Zim slathered his ass in Zebra Gravy and walked into danger Ringing a
bell yelling come and get it. And if you defend that them you need to take a long look at yourself.
[/quote]
Agreed. LUV the analogy - LMAO[/quote]
Fucking LOL. That is getting stolen at the earliest opportunity! Copyright four60 2013.
I don’t think he is guilty of murder. He is a dumbass and I want to bounce his head off of the nearest hard object for fucking up the view of CCW holders everywhere. FUCK that makes me pissed off!
However, I don’t think he deserves to rot in prison. His life is ruined, he was an idiot, and he ruined other people’s lives. I think he’s going to live his punishment but I am not of the opinion he deserves to go to jail for murder, or be killed on the street (which will probably end up happening sooner or later unless he moves far, faaaar away).
At the moment of trigger pull he was justified because he has reason to fear his life was in danger, but at every moment prior he was doing exactly the things he should not have been doing. I will say his actions post shooting were those of someone who expects that it is a justified defense–waiting for the cops at the scene to give a statement is a very big thing if you’re feeling guilty of murder. However he was a retard and just set all responsible CCW holders back by years in public opinion and media eyes.
And the media…well fuck them. That’s all I want to say. If they had handled it even remotely responsibly it wouldn’t have been near the race conflict it was. It already had enough seeds for that without them fucking grandstanding and showing 11 year old little boy photos.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Seriously, what kind of a pathetic pussy shoots someone in a fist fight?[/quote]
the person who is losing the fight and has a gun? If you dont know who’s kicking your ass, and whether or not they understand the concept of “he’s had enough, that’s it”. I’d shoot the fuck out of somebody before i’d let them beat me to death.
hopefully zimmerman walks, not just because it’s a stupid case and should never have been brought to trial, but because i love watching riots on tv…[/quote]
Ahhh, Poor Naive young man. The only riot from this will be from 10 kids who already planned to rob and steel but found this a good excuse to gain sympathy when caught.
Despite the desperate effort to turn this into a race thing it has become the NRA & NAGR most damaging nightmare. The idea that this Dumbass will become a poster child by the liberals for CCW holders is giving most of us migraines. Has no one wondered why none of the big gun rights groups support this guy.
Oh well, one small shot from a wannabe cop, one giant step back for gun activist and our American rights.[/quote]
Which is why they need to make an example out of this fuck-tard. Assholes like Zimmerman fuck it up for ALL gun owners.[/quote]
Oh the chance of him walking is amazingly large. I’m not sure his Dumbass actions and placing his neighbors lives in danger count. He was scared so he shot. Now his ass walking the streets after he gets off is another issue.
Man, I wanna kick his ass just for people bringing his name up when they find out about my guns.[/quote]
I agree with you and JB that he’ll probably walk with what he’s being charged with (and hopefully gets a taste of his own medicine down the line). What I DON’T agree with is all the talk on this thread that Zimmerman was “well within his rights” to shoot him and that “I’d have shot him too” and how they “hope” he walks. That’s some fucking BULLSHIT.[/quote]
THIS
What’s up with all the insecure gun owners here. Its T Nation. Not P nation. P for Pussy because you supposed MEN need to carry guns everywhere you go to feel secure. All these big bad bodybuilders afraid of a little fist fight.
[quote]rchurchill33 wrote:
What’s up with all the insecure gun owners here. Its T Nation. Not P nation. P for Pussy because you supposed MEN need to carry guns everywhere you go to feel secure. All these big bad bodybuilders afraid of a little fist fight.[/quote]
Obvious troll is obvious.
That being said. Last I checked it isn’t call the Bill of Needs.
[quote]rchurchill33 wrote:
What’s up with all the insecure gun owners here. Its T Nation. Not P nation. P for Pussy because you supposed MEN need to carry guns everywhere you go to feel secure. All these big bad bodybuilders afraid of a little fist fight.[/quote]
I like how you need to explain what the “P” is for.
Also you are a moron.
[quote]rchurchill33 wrote:
What’s up with all the insecure gun owners here. Its T Nation. Not P nation. P for Pussy because you supposed MEN need to carry guns everywhere you go to feel secure. All these big bad bodybuilders afraid of a little fist fight.[/quote]
Zimmerman was far from a bodybuilder. Although he would tell people he was in a bulking phase.