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Are you ever gonna eat dat hot dog, bro?
I still love that the main stream media is showing pictures of a 10 or 12 year old Trayvon, no doubt for emotional response. I think they almost have to since they pulled every dirty trick in the book to vilify Zimmerman and champion St. Trayvon. They have to ride their bullshit out cause I know I heard one of his lawyers say they were coming after some main stream media outlets for editing the 911 call to make it sound like Zimmerman was hating on blacks. So to quit using the pics of a pre-teen Trayvon would be to admit you are a race-baiting bunch of liberal media cunts that need sued.
And me calling Trayvon, St. Trayvon is not about him it is about how the media wanted to portray him.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I’m old enough to remember when South-Central Los Angeles was in flames following a different not guilty verdict in 1992, in which a black man, speeding through a residential area, was beaten to a pulp by the LAPD as they tried to subdue him.
Fifty-three people were killed during the riots, and over a billion dollars in damage was caused. Counter-intuitively, most of this damage was done in the rioters’ own neighborhoods.
Now, protesting what one believes to be an unjust verdict may be justified, but I hope that Trayvon’s supporters find a more constructive means of voicing their displeasure at this verdict than burning down their own liquor stores and stealing TVs from stores in their own neighborhoods.
Time will tell. [/quote]
I also remember the riots. I also remember the anger and lack of trust the citizens of LA had in the LAPD and this was from a guy living in Brooklyn NY. It was widely known that it was a tense time and the beat down of Rodney King was just the match that was needed to set it off.
People had viewed the video being played on the news almost nonstop.
This was not the case. I understand younger people looking at this and guessing it is the exact same powder keg but I have been arguing that thing will play out different.
Four460 is mature and level headed.
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Four460 is mature and level headed.[/quote]
That Sir is fancy talk for "Old and Seen a lot " LOL,
Thanks, I think many who have posted have been.
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Varqanir wrote:
You know, there really is a need for an anti-white slur that has the emotional punch of “nigger”. The words “cracker” and “honky” and “whitey” just aren’t getting the job done. Something really insulting, but short and sweet that you can just spit out and cause as much hurt and anger as “nigger” has done for centuries. Indonesian has “bule”, Cantonese has “gwailoh”, and Spanish has “guero”, but we need a powerful equivalent in English if there is to be any hope for true equality in this country.
In the meantime, I think Chris Rock has the best practical usage guide for the word “cracker” that I’ve seen.
Are you saying “Guero” is an insult?
so glad this bullshit case is finally over.
pretty scared at the way it escalated to a political/race war thing, when it should have just been a manslaughter case and conviction. Thanks liberal media.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
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Anywhere but Tokyo Disney Sea
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
I’m old enough to remember when South-Central Los Angeles was in flames following a different not guilty verdict in 1992, in which a black man, speeding through a residential area, was beaten to a pulp by the LAPD as they tried to subdue him.
Fifty-three people were killed during the riots, and over a billion dollars in damage was caused. Counter-intuitively, most of this damage was done in the rioters’ own neighborhoods.
Now, protesting what one believes to be an unjust verdict may be justified, but I hope that Trayvon’s supporters find a more constructive means of voicing their displeasure at this verdict than burning down their own liquor stores and stealing TVs from stores in their own neighborhoods.
Time will tell. [/quote]
Hate against the LAPD runs deep. Especially in the 90’s where they were doing nothing at all to stop all the violence in areas like South Central. The riots weren’t as much about Rodney King as they were a protest against a thug-like law enforcement body. What they did to him just so happened to be filmed but instances like that were happening throughout the city.
This case seems to be different in that it’s one man against one man not an entire force against one man. It’s early, I hope that made sense.
james
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You forgot “chuck,” though I have no idea where that came from.
Perhaps that was before your time? ;-)[/quote]
My initial exposure to the terms “chuck” (in reference to light-skin European Americans) and “splibb” (in reference to dark-skin African Americans) and “spic” (in reference to brown-skin Spanish/Latin Americans)occurred in late 1965 upon arrival at the USMC base Camp Lejeune in NC. Such terms were not derogatory or insulting.
Having been very very close friends (as are our family members) for nearly five decades, we still reference each other using such terms.
The “Reverend” Al Sharpton calls for Justice Department to file civil charges against Zimmerman.
Shockingly Harry Reid agrees…/eyeroll
I guess trial by jury is not good enough any more.
/I wonder if the good Reverend has apologized to the Duke Lacrosse team that he publicly accused of being raper Whites.
//Or the same man who was willing to publicly brand 4 white Philly cops because a young black woman accused them of rape-then recanted her story and admitted she was actually with her boyfriend all weekend, and made up the story about the cops to keep her mom off her back. Her name was Twana Brawley, and Al never apologized to the cops in question.
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So what lesson you all should be learning from this is…[/quote]
being “white” is the new black
calling someone a “creepy ass cracker” is perfectly acceptable
having your nails did for court is more important than being able to speak or read
if you’re dead son becomes famous, trade mark his name and make that paper
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Not sure when Cracker became a curse? I mean hell Ritz Crackers, Cracker barrel, soup and Crackers. Is it really something you convict a person for if so
then Ritz owes some white dudes a lot of cash.
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Why are you denying that it is a racial slur?
Do you think it is okay to call folks Kike or WOP? [/quote]
Was it meant as a Racial Slur by Martin to the chick on the phone, Sure, but would it have been worse or better if he said Motherfucker?
I don’t even care if Zimmerman called Martin a Niger, his actions are what fucked him up that night not his vocabulary.
Now back to the Cracker word, come on in the realm of “slurs” that is pretty weak. I mean call me when they have Kike or Wop Barrel stores
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are you seriously taking that stance, or is that sarcasm and I missed it?
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Trying to type with my phone is pissing me off…
Now to your question. What did you think I meant. I thought it was an honest answer to her question.
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i was addressing the cracker comment you made with cracker barrel being a place so it cant be racist.
well, ‘cracker’ is short for ‘whip-cracker’. so when there is a ‘whip-cracker barrel’ then your point may be valid. until then, it is a racist slur to white
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Never heard that before, and I’m not a young guy. What is a “Whip-Cracker”?
Once again never said it wasn’t a Racial Slur. Just on the list of slurs it is a weak one.
But “whip cracker” hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that.
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if i recall correctly, you are not white. so, as someone that isnt white, you get to decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ a slur for a white person is? interesting. so as someone that isnt black i can decide how ‘strong’ or ‘weak’ ni… i think you get the point.
as far as the etiology of the term-
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whip+cracker
now you have heard it more than once and from multiple places.
hmmm yep, i think i have proven my point.
EDIT: I am digging through my 2pac collection to find where he uses it. I can recall lyrics where he uses redneck and peckerwood (2 more slurs in case that is ‘hmmm yep that is the first I ever heard of that’ too) and I am almost positive he uses cracker as well. I am also almost positive NWA did, as well.
EDIT2: that didnt take long. from his song ‘fuck em all’:
Here come the coppers
The swat team and the helicopters
Them crackers is crazy
Why? Cause they’ll never stop us
and I am sure there are more…
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The only point I get is you feel the word Cracker is a slur. YES, I agree and stated that in my FIRST, 2nd and 3rd post. So not sure what most of that was about.
I do see that you disagree with the level of offense it has in the white community and on that I have no argument. I’m not white, It’s why I posted the statement in the first place to see how can the same word used on department stores and food products be as offensive as the Other 2 slurs you added that are used against the white community. It was a question, I even posted it as a question.
And yet you feel I’m making a stand. Nope just having a conversation
Also I didn’t say I never heard of the slur CRACKER I said I never heard of WHIP CRACKER.
And up to this point never thought it had any other meaning than toasted dough. But since no one else is arguing yay or nay to if they knew of the words origin I’m guessing it was not widely known or really cared about.
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i read the ‘hmmm yep’ comment as you being a smart little twat and responded as such. if you were not being a smart ass, I apologize for the tone.
but, back to the point at hand, CRACKER IS WHIP-CRACKER. The ‘whip’ was dropped at some point for some reason.
EDIT: just allow me to say, from the Urban Dictionary (which i am betting is widely read)-
“The word Cracker is in reference to the one who cracked the whip.”
and
"A racial slur used by blacks to demean whites, it refers to the time in the USA when a slave master would “crack” a whip to get the slaves to work. It’s often shortened to “cracka.” "[/quote]
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No one could be less of “a smart little twat” than Four. He is one of the most mature, balanced, dispassionate and objective posters seen around here. That you don’t know that makes me wonder how much you’ve been around.
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I am a well-educated, older white guy from the States who grew up in a mixed, working class housing project, and I never heard anything about “whip” cracker before you posted it. I always took it to be reference to the pale complexion of white people.
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Then I apologize to four60 for my tone. And an FYI- I have been on this site since the original andro-spray, so i have been around for a while. I jump in to the fray of some of these things on and off through the years.
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It appears that you were not familiar with one possible etiology of the word. That may very well be the case, but it doesnt change the fact. I was unfamiliar with it until a college history prof informed our class of it.
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[quote]Aggv wrote:
so glad this bullshit case is finally over.
Thanks liberal media. [/quote]
Pretty much this. I’m taken aback by the not guilty on manslaughter, looks like I was wrong about that. Figured it would have been a slam dunk, and IMO he should do time for that charge.
However this whole case is just another example in a long line of selective outrage and people willing to throw their rights away.
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A video entered as evidence is displayed in courtroom. It shows Trayvon Martin, right, at a 7-Eleven on the night of his shooting.
Now Why can’t CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN and MSNBC take that picture of a twelve year old Trayvon in a gray hoody and exchange for the factual picture here? Because they are liberal shit with an agenda to break this country apart from within.
Hey liberals who has FAUX NEWS? Who sleeps in same bed with Obama admin and hides his ills?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/12/white-house-escalates-war-words-fox-news/
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I am sick of this shit, the jury decided rightfully that there was not enough to sentence a man for life and now everyone of the libtards are calling for Zimmerman’s blood. Might as well go back to witch hunts and pitchfork mobs.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
so glad this bullshit case is finally over.
Thanks liberal media. [/quote]
Pretty much this. I’m taken aback by the not guilty on manslaughter, looks like I was wrong about that. Figured it would have been a slam dunk, and IMO he should do time for that charge.
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I hope you aren’t on the jury when im wrongfully charged with manslaughter