Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

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[quote]Severiano wrote:

To Utahlemming, you had to fight Mexican folks to, and from school while walking up hills both ways in the snow? Well, stop wearing Capri’s and that Justin Beiver shirt yer mom got you, el grand champeon Mexican slayer. [/quote]

First this…

It disproves every single thing you just said.

Second…

I know you are Latino, and I’m sure it was not your family members who chased me nearly every time I left my house when I was not in a car.

But growing up in a bad neighborhood in Fresno California, that was run by the Bulldog gang

Fresno Bulldogs - Wikipedia …was a bad place to be a white boy, so yea I fought a lot, if I diden’t I was screwed.

So in essence, go fuck yourself.

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Interesting:

Gallup: 67% of Americans against race-based college admissions, most say race relations good http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/25/gallup-67-of-americans-against-race-base

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
Interesting:

Gallup: 67% of Americans against race-based college admissions, most say race relations good http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/25/gallup-67-of-americans-against-race-base [/quote]

If that keeps up Sharpton and J.Jackson will be out of a job…BETTER PLAN PROTEST MARCHES!!

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Interesting:

Gallup: 67% of Americans against race-based college admissions, most say race relations good http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/25/gallup-67-of-americans-against-race-base [/quote]

If that keeps up Sharpton and J.Jackson will be out of a job…BETTER PLAN PROTEST MARCHES!![/quote]

Or pick out another case with the slightest potential to be racially charged and start rioting and shit. Thatll do it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
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I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
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I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]

Link?

I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Well beans sorry I cant remember everything from when I was 6yrs old I wasnt taking notes but here are some facts a can remember. My dad a university proffesor at Berry college led a activist rally to protest the KKK’s yearly March the city couldnt give a shit less about the threats he was getting. And when the Klan came to down they made a nice example of my dad by burning a nice big cross in our front yard.

I quess since he wasnt nailed to its just freedom of speach. If you think the south is so nice take a family trip to some of the small towns and enjoy the local fare. Maybe it will help broaden your horizons maybe check out Forseyth GA real fun place. I’d just as soon forget about Rome GA and the racist turds that infest that land. Hopefully more time goes by and the intolerant, ignant, backwoods, mothbreathers can just die off.
[/quote]

Not all white people agree with the KKK. Not all southern people do either.

I asked, specifically for these schools to learn something. Do you have names or are you making up stories?[/quote]

I deal with a couple local Klan chapters in Missouri frequently. They are often out passing out flyers, protesting, doing parades, in public, &c. I also know several of the members personally (small town), all those guys are Democrats. They are pretty good about hiding their racist views when they have the hoods down, all of them are liberal/socialist/communist.

This crap about liberals/democrats being all accepting and all about equality crap is annoying. [/quote]

Not sure anyone mentioned democrats anywhere but ok… You should recomend your buddies come up here to the East Side of Kansas city and do one of their white linen partys.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]

Did you read his and my follow up posts? He lived in a decent part of Newark. I bring my family to the area for dinner on Sunday nights.

[/quote]
You misread. I wrote that it wasn’t the Ironbound. I lived in the South Ward. A long time ago it was a Jewish area. They still come around to collect the rent.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You did the very same thing, spare me the faux outrage. [/quote]

Lol. What outrage? I was laughing out loud.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
According to your postings in this thread, Whitey should have stopped him from making it this far.
[/quote]

Lol
Hence why I asked you, ‘how many like him out there’? How many black men like him out of, say a million?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
If grades were the single most important factor, I would say no. [/quote]

Are you saying ‘‘no’’, to a black woman being considered first over a white woman, if grades were the single most important factor?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

No idea, and I doubt you could substantiate that is going on either. [/quote]

Lol. wow. Just like you doubt there’s a ‘‘white privilege’’ either.

Maybe you should read the link TheHebrew posted a couple of pages back, and get a clue. Black American women with ethnic names are struggling to get jobs. It is not a myth. That kind of shit is going on. But I don’t expect you to accept that.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I’ve done quite a few interviews. Not all good interviews end up in paying positions. We have to turn away good interviews all the time. And sometimes we have to fire people that were great interviews.

Skin color is irrelevant. Name on the resume is irrelevant. [/quote]

Here you are, deflecting again. It’s not about how the interview was conducted or how good interviews result in hiring or rejecting someone. Do you speak for all the thousands and thousands businesses black folks apply to?

You have totally ignored the fact that the women had to change their names in order to get an interview that wasn’t offered to them when they applied firstly, with their ethnic names. The women ticked all the boxes and are never called back.

But carry on with your denial.

[quote]coutnibeans wrote:

You can tell yourself and anyone that will listen it is the name on the resume not getting people jobs or interviews until you are blue in the face.
[/quote]

Lol. Just as you’ll get blue in the face as you keep screaming and shouting to whoever want to hear, that thereâ??s no racist system in Amerikkka.

[quote]coutnibeans wrote:
A black woman denying blacks can be racist. [/quote]

Hell, fucking yeah.

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. Blakc people don’t make laws. Black people don’t make the governmental structure. They don’t own their our own police force. And they don’t control their own votes.
Black people can’t keep whites out of a job by the millions. That’s power. Black people can’t influence another group of people to the point where that group hates whites and thinks negatively of them. Black people can’t make weapons of mass destruction.

You don’t/won’t understand, you will deny that the power lies within the white supremacist system itself. Black people can be bigoted or Prejudiced.

Again, check the difference between the words. Your smoke screens tactics aren’t working on me.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
So fuck yeah, you’ll never understand. [/quote]

Understand what? There’s nothing to understand. I’ve educated myself on the subject. You haven’t. Or you know and you are just deflecting. You are using smoke screen tactics to deflect from the sad reality that, you are part of white supremacist system, which you take from granted and benefit from.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Also, where is my privilege then if it is so prevalent? I want some if people make assumptions of me and my life based on my skin color, yet call me names if I were to do it. [/quote]

Where’s your white privilege, uh? A privilege you take for granted, of course, you wouldn’t even be aware of it.
But hey, let me give you some examples: police not stopping you for no reason/frisking you/beating you because of the colour of your skin – and this can happen several times in the life of a typical black man; you don’t get followed in shop because people assume you’re not a ‘‘thug’’ or a thief – since black people are always the bad guy --; or the sale assistant/clerk will totally ignore you and serve a white person instead; You don’t get hired because your name is ethnic; you aren’t refused entrances to certain businesses or shops – this is still happening in few places in the south.

These are just a few examples but I’m sure you’d say you’ve been beaten by the police 20 times in your life for no reason and it had nothing to do with your race. Lol.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

I don’t need to say so when your own words point the fact out so blatantly. [/quote]

Lol. I was being sarcastic. There’s no point arguing with someone who clearly believes that the fact a president’s bills are mostly blocked by the right wings cunts has nothing to do with the colour of his skin.

Shit, even Bill Clinton had better success with the opposition.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

Theres no reason to think we could have a real discussion here with duck dynasty. Let them all waste their time peering out the window cleaning their guns waiting for the Afropocolipse… Im sure any minute now the negro invasion will begin. 1000s of young black men AKA thugz will be breaking into their homes ready to steel their "here comes honey boo boo box set and throw a Mandingo party with their girlfriends… I mean really to them the system is working just fine… If it aint broke dont fix it…
Mysons right fuck this…
There can still be justice for Trayvon Martin through the reform of the system so this shit stops… These guys still have a chance…Darrius Simmons 13,( his killer got life) Derek Williams 22, Corey Stingley 16, Bo Morrison 20… Fuck GZ he will get his one day no protective custody outside the walls… I would say a more usefull thing would be to create a thread that allows a information exchange so people that want to see the country move forward can. [/quote]

Hahaha!

Fucking preach!

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
[/quote]
I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]

Link?

I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.

Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:

â??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.â??

As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.

Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.

Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.

This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.

A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.

That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didnâ??t locate him.

http://blog.ctnews.com/sandy/2012/11/05/fairfield-cops-ui-workers-being-harassed/

You’re welcome.

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Where’s your white privilege, CB?

Read up!

  1. White privilege, like whiteness itself, is intangible.

  2. The problem with race in America is that people from all sorts of backgrounds coast through life without realizing how race still matters. They will make blanket statements like ‘‘we don’t have slavery anymore’’ or ‘‘thereâ??s a black president now’’ or, even worse, ‘‘all of that stuff happened so long ago.’’ But that’s just it – it didn’t happen all that long ago, actually, and it is still happening. Cultural amnesia.

  3. Whenever ‘‘diversity’’ or ‘‘race’’ comes up as a way to create opportunities for minorities, someone will say, ‘‘Race shouldn’t matter as much as merit. I don’t think people should be judged based on the color of their skin. Everyone should be judged without regards to their skin.’’ And they’re exactly right.

  4. Because race isn’t about skin color. Race is a systemic, governmental, juridical set of processes rooted in history that have stabilized racial inequalities. So, for instance, race isnâ??t that I’m white and you’re black. Race is the law that says we canâ??t drink out of the same water fountain or that you have to sit in the back of the bus. Race is the law that says we canâ??t get married. Race is the fact that if you were black in the 1950s you had limited home-buying opportunities. Race is the common stereotype that if a black family moves into a neighborhood, property values go down. Race is targeting minorities for expensive, subprime mortgages.

  5. A person’s white privilege is reflected they second they wonder why people are still talking about race.

  6. But it is reflected even more if they act offended, angered and annoyed if another person calls out and interrogates their whiteness/white privilege. They feel that talking about whiteness is reverse discrimination.

  7. There are 2.3 million incarcerated people in the United States. African American men count for more than 1 million people in jail. Black men are jailed six times more frequently than white men.

  8. ‘‘I don’t see race’’ or ‘‘we should all just look past race’’ are two general statements that can only be said by a person for whom race is not a daily struggle/issue/negotiation.

  9. White privilege is a kind of narcissism because it is the ability to see if not continuously demand images of whiteness in all representational media. White people are already everywhere. In one of the sociology classes I took this semester we talked about black and Latino gay culture via Paris Is Burning and one of the white gay male students in the room said, ‘‘I feel left out. Where are all the white gay men in this story?’’ Really?

  10. White privilege is the irrational fear that affirmative action programs are going to pave the way for minorities to take over, or more specifically to take ‘‘your spot’’ at college or in the workplace. White privilege is the assumption you have a ‘‘spot’’ to begin with. Affirmative action was launched with an Executive Order signed by President Kennedy in 1961. In the past 52 years, what has changed on college campuses and work places? How has affirmative action shaped access to top jobs and schools in America?

  11. There are 315,755,000 million people in the United States. 13.1% of them are black. 5% are Asian. 16.7% are latino, 78.1% are white.

  12. 7% of Harvard undergraduates are black. 16% are Asian. .1% are Native American. 43% are white. At the University of Texas at Austin, 4.6% of undergraduates are black, 17.9% are Asian, 20% are Latino, 50% are white.

  13. Have you waltzed into an investment bank recently? A law firm?

  14. White privilege means never having your intelligence questioned or, for that matter, having to work 20x harder just to buffer yourself from negative critique when you achieve greatness. It happens when a minority person you know achieves something amazing, and you secretly think, ‘‘Well, it’s because youâ??re (race).’’ Whenever I get into debates with my white friends about the merits of affirmative action programs, the thing that always comes up is, ‘‘Well, if they were held up to the same standards as white people…’’ It annoys me that the racism of that kind of blanket statement can slip past a person of any given racial background.

  15. A white person doesn’t think of themselves as white. We are just people.

  16. When we talk about white privilege, we’re not talking about bank accounts and elite status. That’s where class comes in. But we are talking about a set of non-tangible advantages, like never being asked why we speak so well. No one has ever told me that I have good diction or that I speak well because I’m white.

  17. There is always the black or brown student in the class whenever race comes up, and everyone looks at that person to speak for their entire minority race.

  18. You can appropriate aspects of black culture or Native culture or any other brown culture on Halloween or as some kind of joke, but at the end of the day, when it’s all said and done, you still get to return to whiteness.

  19. I was sitting in a cafe on my college campus and this guy sat at a table across from me was talking about how he grew up ‘‘rich’’ and his family was a member of the elite country club in his home town. ‘‘I never had to encounter the blacks before, but then I went on a church mission where I fed the homeless, saw poverty, and that was my first exposure to blacks.’’ Think about just what he’s saying.

  20. Not all white people are racist, but all white people have white privilege.

  21. Recognizing you have white privilege is part of the fight against racism. I know I have white privilege, and that definitely impacts how I relate to the world and it shapes the kinds of relationships I cultivate. When you understand your own white privilege, you’ll be better equipped to see and understand systemic discrimination and inequality. TC mark

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Hey CB!

Where’s your white privilege???

Read up and tell me you don’t agree with anything PeggyMcintosh wrote on the subject.

Of course, you will! Privilege is money money!!!

''I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.

  1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

  2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.

  3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.

  4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.

  5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.

  6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.

  7. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.

  8. I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person’s voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.

  9. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser’s shop and find someone who can cut my hair.

  10. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.

  11. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

  12. I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.

  13. I can be pretty sure that my children’s teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others’ attitudes toward their race.

  14. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.

  15. I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.

  16. I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.

  17. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

  18. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.

  19. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world’s majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.

  20. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.

  21. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the “person in charge”, I will be facing a person of my race.

  22. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven’t been singled out because of my race.

  23. I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children’s magazines featuring people of my race.

  24. I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.

  25. I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.

  26. I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.

  27. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn’t a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.

  28. I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.

  29. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.

  30. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

  31. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

  32. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.

  33. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.

  34. I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.

  35. I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.

  36. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

  37. I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.

  38. I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.

  39. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.

  40. If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.

  41. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.

  42. I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.

  43. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in “flesh” color and have them more or less match my skin.

  44. I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.

  45. I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.

  46. My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.

  47. I will feel welcomed and “normal” in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.‘’

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Interesting. Where are these majority of places whites can’t go without being in danger?

[/quote]

I live in Northern NJ 15 minutes from Newark, Paterson and NYC so I’ll give you a few in my area:

Sections of Paterson , Newark, East Orange, and a lot of Camden. My friend works for a utility company and he has to cut people’s power off in sections of Irvington, East Orange and Newark when they don’t pay. He’s in the area a lot and gets racial slurs and threats thrown at him. It got bad enough to the point where they now need the help of the police to do their job.

I also worked a for a few months as cell tower auditor for T-Mobile and we had sites all over NYC. Instead of on towers, the cell sites are on top of the buildings. There were neighborhoods in the Bronx (near Webster and Jerome Ave), Brooklyn and upper part of Harlem (around 145 and St. Nick) where it wasn’t safe for whites after dark and even sometimes during the day. Both the cops and the thugs see a white guy in these neighborhoods and they immediately think you’re there for drugs. We would schedule audits for site in these areas no later than noon. The earlier, the better.

Obviously every housing project in the 4 boroughs (minus Manhattan) is off limits. Same goes for Paterson , Newark , Irvington, East Orange and Camden. There are other areas in NJ and NYC where whites can’t go, but I’m just listing the ones I’ve seen personally.
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I lived in Newark, not the Ironbound, and I am white. I felt in no more or less danger than a black who lived there felt. Then again, since I lived there, they all probably assumed I was as broke as they were. [/quote]

Interesting.

It would seem perception is relevant.

It also seems that people from Houston agree with each other on the social situation but people from Newark see the world completely differently than the guy down the block.

JK[/quote]
It should be noted that here in CT, after the recent tropical storms, power company workers were attacked both physically and verbally by white people, in very nice towns, because it was believed they were taking too long to restore power. Anger is universal. [/quote]

Link?

I would think that at least the local news would have covered it?[/quote]
They did.

Fairfield police posted a message on its Facebook page on Monday that United Illuminating crews are being harassed in town:

â??Several UI crews have been forced to stop work and call for police assistance after being harassed and threatened. There are over 100 crews in town working to restore power at this time. Please allow UI crews to do their job and do not interfere so we can ensure full restoration as soon as possible.â??

As of 1 p.m., UI reported 2,359 Fairfield customers without power, about 11 percent of its total customer base.

Fairfield police said UI has been forced to hire police to protect the crews.

Last week, UI crews in Bridgeport required police protection after workers reported people were yelling at them. Some of the crews said their trucks were pelted by eggs. On Monday, Bridgeport had 1,089 customers without power, according to UI, about 1.92 percent, down from more than 40,000 outages last week.

This is not the first report of utility workers being harassed in Fairfield in the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy.

A 62-year-old Perry Street man was arrested last Tuesday after police said he threatened an AT&T worker with a shotgun.

That same day, police received a report of an elderly man harassing UI workers on Merwins Lane, but police didnâ??t locate him.

http://blog.ctnews.com/sandy/2012/11/05/fairfield-cops-ui-workers-being-harassed/

You’re welcome. [/quote]

This is irrelevant. The topic has never been “white people dont get mad and commit crimes”

Thats basically all you are pointing out right now.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Over 100 people have been murdered in Baltimore since Trayvon Martin, why is this not national news? Why is Obama not tweeting about this? Where are Sharpton and Jackson? Where is Katty Perry or half the Baltimore Ravens for that matter?

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Age Name
19 Dennis Conway
16 Diamond Williams
18 Moses Rush III
20 Montae Higgins
21 Ramon Rodriguez
24 Trey Powell

Six people under the age of 25 killed THIS MONTH in Baltimore, where is the national outrage?[/quote]

Oh wow, I’m so touched. Since you care so much black youth and, black on crime, what the fuck are you doing about it?

How many white kids/people have died in Amerikkka or Baltimore since Trayvon Martin? Let me know, I’d like to know what the white on white crime stats look like.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

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[quote]coutnibeans wrote:
A black woman denying blacks can be racist. [/quote]

Hell, fucking yeah.

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. Blakc people don’t make laws. Black people don’t make the governmental structure. They don’t own their our own police force. And they don’t control their own votes.
Black people can’t keep whites out of a job by the millions. That’s power. Black people can’t influence another group of people to the point where that group hates whites and thinks negatively of them. Black people can’t make weapons of mass destruction.

You don’t/won’t understand, you will deny that the power lies within the white supremacist system itself. Black people can be bigoted or Prejudiced.

Again, check the difference between the words. Your smoke screens tactics aren’t working on me.

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This little gem right here had me rolling on the floor.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
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With so many lining up to get your government handout every month for no better reason than just not wanting to work so you get a quack doctor to say you are disabled by asthma, IBS, or migraines, they are essentially voluntarily holding themselves down because they have no desire for anything better, if that something better would require effort on their part. [/quote]

WOw, wow, wow.

Easy there, Jb. Last I checked, white Americans were lining out for handouts more than blacks. You’ve got lazy people and leaches on your side too. More than blacks.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Where’s your white privilege, CB?

Read up!

  1. White privilege, like whiteness itself, is intangible.

  2. The problem with race in America is that people from all sorts of backgrounds coast through life without realizing how race still matters. They will make blanket statements like ‘‘we don’t have slavery anymore’’ or ‘‘thereâ??s a black president now’’ or, even worse, ‘‘all of that stuff happened so long ago.’’ But that’s just it – it didn’t happen all that long ago, actually, and it is still happening. Cultural amnesia.

  3. Whenever ‘‘diversity’’ or ‘‘race’’ comes up as a way to create opportunities for minorities, someone will say, ‘‘Race shouldn’t matter as much as merit. I don’t think people should be judged based on the color of their skin. Everyone should be judged without regards to their skin.’’ And they’re exactly right.

  4. Because race isn’t about skin color. Race is a systemic, governmental, juridical set of processes rooted in history that have stabilized racial inequalities. So, for instance, race isnâ??t that I’m white and you’re black. Race is the law that says we canâ??t drink out of the same water fountain or that you have to sit in the back of the bus. Race is the law that says we canâ??t get married. Race is the fact that if you were black in the 1950s you had limited home-buying opportunities. Race is the common stereotype that if a black family moves into a neighborhood, property values go down. Race is targeting minorities for expensive, subprime mortgages.

  5. A person’s white privilege is reflected they second they wonder why people are still talking about race.

  6. But it is reflected even more if they act offended, angered and annoyed if another person calls out and interrogates their whiteness/white privilege. They feel that talking about whiteness is reverse discrimination.

  7. There are 2.3 million incarcerated people in the United States. African American men count for more than 1 million people in jail. Black men are jailed six times more frequently than white men.

  8. ‘‘I don’t see race’’ or ‘‘we should all just look past race’’ are two general statements that can only be said by a person for whom race is not a daily struggle/issue/negotiation.

  9. White privilege is a kind of narcissism because it is the ability to see if not continuously demand images of whiteness in all representational media. White people are already everywhere. In one of the sociology classes I took this semester we talked about black and Latino gay culture via Paris Is Burning and one of the white gay male students in the room said, ‘‘I feel left out. Where are all the white gay men in this story?’’ Really?

  10. White privilege is the irrational fear that affirmative action programs are going to pave the way for minorities to take over, or more specifically to take ‘‘your spot’’ at college or in the workplace. White privilege is the assumption you have a ‘‘spot’’ to begin with. Affirmative action was launched with an Executive Order signed by President Kennedy in 1961. In the past 52 years, what has changed on college campuses and work places? How has affirmative action shaped access to top jobs and schools in America?

  11. There are 315,755,000 million people in the United States. 13.1% of them are black. 5% are Asian. 16.7% are latino, 78.1% are white.

  12. 7% of Harvard undergraduates are black. 16% are Asian. .1% are Native American. 43% are white. At the University of Texas at Austin, 4.6% of undergraduates are black, 17.9% are Asian, 20% are Latino, 50% are white.

  13. Have you waltzed into an investment bank recently? A law firm?

  14. White privilege means never having your intelligence questioned or, for that matter, having to work 20x harder just to buffer yourself from negative critique when you achieve greatness. It happens when a minority person you know achieves something amazing, and you secretly think, ‘‘Well, it’s because youâ??re (race).’’ Whenever I get into debates with my white friends about the merits of affirmative action programs, the thing that always comes up is, ‘‘Well, if they were held up to the same standards as white people…’’ It annoys me that the racism of that kind of blanket statement can slip past a person of any given racial background.

  15. A white person doesn’t think of themselves as white. We are just people.

  16. When we talk about white privilege, we’re not talking about bank accounts and elite status. That’s where class comes in. But we are talking about a set of non-tangible advantages, like never being asked why we speak so well. No one has ever told me that I have good diction or that I speak well because I’m white.

  17. There is always the black or brown student in the class whenever race comes up, and everyone looks at that person to speak for their entire minority race.

  18. You can appropriate aspects of black culture or Native culture or any other brown culture on Halloween or as some kind of joke, but at the end of the day, when it’s all said and done, you still get to return to whiteness.

  19. I was sitting in a cafe on my college campus and this guy sat at a table across from me was talking about how he grew up ‘‘rich’’ and his family was a member of the elite country club in his home town. ‘‘I never had to encounter the blacks before, but then I went on a church mission where I fed the homeless, saw poverty, and that was my first exposure to blacks.’’ Think about just what he’s saying.

  20. Not all white people are racist, but all white people have white privilege.

  21. Recognizing you have white privilege is part of the fight against racism. I know I have white privilege, and that definitely impacts how I relate to the world and it shapes the kinds of relationships I cultivate. When you understand your own white privilege, you’ll be better equipped to see and understand systemic discrimination and inequality. TC mark[/quote]

yawn

Cliff notes?

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Hell, fucking yeah.

Black people cannot enslave another group of people. THAT’S POWER. Blakc people don’t make laws. Black people don’t make the governmental structure. They don’t own their our own police force. And they don’t control their own votes.
Black people can’t keep whites out of a job by the millions. That’s power. Black people can’t influence another group of people to the point where that group hates whites and thinks negatively of them. Black people can’t make weapons of mass destruction.
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Obama.

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So I suppose if whites have all this privilege we should be getting into graduate schools (Medical, PT, Dental) ahead of blacks with higher grades than us that went to much more prestigious schools??