Trayvon Martin Pt. 3.. The Legacy Pt. 2

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

The reports list MINORITIES as a prerec for a hate crime…blacks, latinos, jews ect.

Minority on white crime is just a CRIME STATISTIC…one that has been listed on this thread MANY times.

Just because when a black person beats a white person it is not considered a HATE CRIME, it is still black on white crime…where the statistics have been posted.

And I’m done, I wish they had never let you back in the building.[/quote]

None of this explains how it can be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks[/quote]

Oh…my…god.

I answer your question, and you move the goalposts.

You are an insane person.[/quote]

My previous post you just responded to

[quote]Then how can it be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks?

All evidence seems to say otherwise.

Also, it isn’t true that there are no statutes for race hate crimes against whites.[/quote]

No goal posts were moved. The exact same question is asked again.[/quote]

I answered your first question with your last question smart guy.

If they do not HAVE A STATISTIC for minority on white crime as a hate crime…you CANNOT PRODUCE STATISTICS to show that whites are at greater risk…because they do not exist.

You can only produce CRIME STATISTICS of minority on white crime…which have been posted.

Seriously…you took statistics?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

So let me get this straight. A black person can work hard, earn a good/great job, have a McMansion, but some poor white trash piece of garbage might still act racist towards him/her. Hence he/she is still in, “The Storm.”

Is that what your saying? [/quote]

Interesting.

What if that same person who can “work hard, earn a good/great job, have a McMansion”…gets denied a higher level job based on race?

I am only pointing out your scenario seems to ignore the possibility of that not being the ceiling of potential for success for that person.

You listed those attributes like that represented success alone…as if more is not the goal for some.

[/quote]

In this day and age, blacks are granted as many jobs because of their race as they are denied.

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

The reports list MINORITIES as a prerec for a hate crime…blacks, latinos, jews ect.

Minority on white crime is just a CRIME STATISTIC…one that has been listed on this thread MANY times.

Just because when a black person beats a white person it is not considered a HATE CRIME, it is still black on white crime…where the statistics have been posted.

And I’m done, I wish they had never let you back in the building.[/quote]

None of this explains how it can be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks[/quote]

Oh…my…god.

I answer your question, and you move the goalposts.

You are an insane person.[/quote]

Or just dense.[/quote]

I dont think there exists the mental capacity to be “insane” in that one. So my vote goes to dense as well.

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Also, apparently the FBI does investigate crimes against whites if it is actually seen as a hate crime for race alone.

The Louisiana Hate Crime Statute does not allow the selection of a victim based on race. It does not matter if they are a minority or not.

That can be seen here:

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t believe in 2013 a black person is being denied a promotion because they are black (99.99% of the time). If that does happen they can move to another company where that won’t happen.
[/quote]

How would you possibly know this?

Serious question. On what do you base this idea?[/quote]

I don’t know this for fact, not everything can be backed up with facts. It is 100% personal opinion/anecdotal evidence. I don’t believe the current social climate in this country allows for this to happen. At least not in my neck of the woods where PG, Montgomery, Baltimore, and Howard County (one of the wealthiest in the country) are predominantly black.

I think this stuff stopped happening a while ago, women get screwed way more in the work place, imo.

-The weathest (monatarily) person in my family is: Black
-The richest woman in the world (Opera) is: Black
-The President is: Black
-A large percentage of pro athletes are: Black
-Congress, judges, high level gov workers: Black
-CEOs, CFOs, etc…:Black

Edit:

I should say not everything can be backed up with Stats.

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:
Where I lived private schools wouldnt let in blacks or other ethnic groups, private pools wouldnt allow blacks. Certain pools wouldnt let blacks & minorities swim there. [/quote]

Links?

I can’t believe this isn’t a national outrage…[/quote]

Im not sure it would have made any national news as the entire town seemed to be cool with it back then. Where I lived the whites and blacks lived in seperate parts of town and really didnt mix. I lived in Rome GA in the early 80’s and these things were just part of life. I’ll ask my mom the name of the pool and see if anything pops up on the net. Im pretty sure the KKK still has a annual march their but I havent been back since 1986 when my dad got fired for being such a “upity jew” Im sure things are probably better now now but I still woudnt go back.[/quote]

Please, when you get the chance to, list all these schools that denied admission to blacks.

And in the future it would be cool if you didn’t talk about things that happened 30 years ago, and you can’t even remember the name of said things, like it was just yesterday.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

I answered your first question with your last question smart guy.

If they do not HAVE A STATISTIC for minority on white crime as a hate crime…you CANNOT PRODUCE STATISTICS to show that whites are at greater risk…because they do not exist.

You can only produce CRIME STATISTICS of minority on white crime…which have been posted.

Seriously…you took statistics?[/quote]

Then it can not be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attack than blacks in certain areas.

Thank you.

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[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:
Two pilots are both flying the same direction. One at 35000 feet which is above the clouds and the other at 1000 feet underneath a storm.

Pilot #1: It sure is a beautiful day for flying.

Pilot #2: Man, I imagine it is up there. This storm is beating us around making it very challenging to fly straight and gain more altitude.

Pilot #1: I don’t know what you are taking about. Its sunny clear blue skies here.

Pilot #2: Okay, can you swing down here and help fly us out of this storm? Every route we take ends up in a serious down draft, keeping from breaking through the clouds.

Pilot #1: Hrmmm…what would I want to do that? No one helped me get up here. I got here on my own and you can to if you can figure out to fly like us. * Turns mic off…Man, I really hope that does not happen, things are pretty cool as they are, no need to share more of this beautiful skyway.[/quote]

This implies blacks, themselves, cannot rise above, “The storm,” which is bull shit. There are thousands upon thousands of examples.

Guess this dude decided to straight jump out of that 747…[/quote]

I could be wrong but “the storm” does not imply money, neighborhoods or fancy cars. You can have all that and more and still experience the divide. There are plenty examples of that.[/quote]

Where doesn’t that divide exist? It isn’t black vs white or vice versa, it’s human. I think some of the stuff in here is ridiculous. People want to move beyond race issues but don’t want to acknowledge that it’s a human issue and not a race issue.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

The reports list MINORITIES as a prerec for a hate crime…blacks, latinos, jews ect.

Minority on white crime is just a CRIME STATISTIC…one that has been listed on this thread MANY times.

Just because when a black person beats a white person it is not considered a HATE CRIME, it is still black on white crime…where the statistics have been posted.

And I’m done, I wish they had never let you back in the building.[/quote]

None of this explains how it can be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks[/quote]

Oh…my…god.

I answer your question, and you move the goalposts.

You are an insane person.[/quote]

My previous post you just responded to

[quote]Then how can it be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks?

All evidence seems to say otherwise.

Also, it isn’t true that there are no statutes for race hate crimes against whites.[/quote]

No goal posts were moved. The exact same question is asked again.[/quote]

This is like asking someone to provide concrete evidence that proves Santa doesnt exist. The FBI doesnt have a report on that but anyone older than 4 and with COMMON SENSE knows it. Quit hiding behind a lack of statistics to support your ridiculous arguments. You’ve already been explained why the statistics previously provided are reasonable to go by.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t believe in 2013 a black person is being denied a promotion because they are black (99.99% of the time). If that does happen they can move to another company where that won’t happen.
[/quote]

Wow. You say it so nonchalantly.

How do you know that ain’t happening?

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

The reports list MINORITIES as a prerec for a hate crime…blacks, latinos, jews ect.

Minority on white crime is just a CRIME STATISTIC…one that has been listed on this thread MANY times.

Just because when a black person beats a white person it is not considered a HATE CRIME, it is still black on white crime…where the statistics have been posted.

And I’m done, I wish they had never let you back in the building.[/quote]

None of this explains how it can be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks[/quote]

Oh…my…god.

I answer your question, and you move the goalposts.

You are an insane person.[/quote]

My previous post you just responded to

[quote]Then how can it be said that whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks?

All evidence seems to say otherwise.

Also, it isn’t true that there are no statutes for race hate crimes against whites.[/quote]

No goal posts were moved. The exact same question is asked again.[/quote]

I answered your first question with your last question smart guy.

If they do not HAVE A STATISTIC for minority on white crime as a hate crime…you CANNOT PRODUCE STATISTICS to show that whites are at greater risk…because they do not exist.

You can only produce CRIME STATISTICS of minority on white crime…which have been posted.

Seriously…you took statistics?[/quote]

So the only valid position one could hold would be Black on white crime in the context of a hate crimes is “unknown”

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, apparently the FBI does investigate crimes against whites if it is actually seen as a hate crime for race alone.

The Louisiana Hate Crime Statute does not allow the selection of a victim based on race. It does not matter if they are a minority or not.

That can be seen here:

[/quote]

GET IN, PROF X!!! GET THE FUCK IN!!!

BOOM!!

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t know this for fact, not everything can be backed up with facts.

It is 100% personal opinion/anecdotal evidence. I don’t believe the current social climate in this country allows for this to happen. At least not in my neck of the woods where PG, Montgomery, Baltimore, and Howard County (one of the wealthiest in the country) are predominantly black.

I think this stuff stopped happening a while ago, women get screwed way more in the work place, imo.

-The weathest (monatarily) person in my family is: Black
-The richest woman in the world (Opera) is: Black
-The President is: Black
-A large percentage of pro athletes are: Black
-Congress, judges, high level gov workers: Black
-CEOs, CFOs, etc…:Black[/quote]

I am asking again one simple question…why you think your perspective is more right than someone else’s even if you could not possibly experience the same issues?

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Utah Lama : with respect to the black on white crime stat, how do you differentiate between hate crimes and non-hate crimes?

We can bet they exist, but to what measure we cannot be certain.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:
Two pilots are both flying the same direction. One at 35000 feet which is above the clouds and the other at 1000 feet underneath a storm.

Pilot #1: It sure is a beautiful day for flying.

Pilot #2: Man, I imagine it is up there. This storm is beating us around making it very challenging to fly straight and gain more altitude.

Pilot #1: I don’t know what you are taking about. Its sunny clear blue skies here.

Pilot #2: Okay, can you swing down here and help fly us out of this storm? Every route we take ends up in a serious down draft, keeping from breaking through the clouds.

Pilot #1: Hrmmm…what would I want to do that? No one helped me get up here. I got here on my own and you can to if you can figure out to fly like us. * Turns mic off…Man, I really hope that does not happen, things are pretty cool as they are, no need to share more of this beautiful skyway.[/quote]

This implies blacks, themselves, cannot rise above, “The storm,” which is bull shit. There are thousands upon thousands of examples.

Guess this dude decided to straight jump out of that 747…[/quote]

I think a lot of people confuse elitism with racism. The haves are always going to step on the have nots. The only thing with that is if you are a white have not, you are not provided any special protections by the government so that makes it doubly difficult to improve you social standing.[/quote]

I agree, the haves will always step all over the have nots. [/quote]

Money is amoral. There are a lot of very generous rich people. I think the only reason you two believe this because you do not know any generous rich people, or the only rich people you remember are a@@holes.

What motorcycle riders do you guys see on the highway? The ones that are riding all crazy like. This is the small percentage of motorcycle owners. You never really remember the cautious riders only the crazy ones. This is the same with rich people. You only remember the a@@holes and not the generous givers.
[/quote]

I was just speaking in general. [/quote]

Not trying to be an a@@munch but generally rich people are more generous than stepping on the small people. Just saying.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

This is like asking someone to provide concrete evidence that proves Santa doesnt exist. The FBI doesnt have a report on that but anyone older than 4 and with COMMON SENSE knows it. [/quote]

You are saying that everyone knows “whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks”?

Nothing shown yet shows whites are greater risk of racial attack and no, not everyone knows this or agrees with this.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

So the only valid position one could hold would be Black on white crime in the context of a hate crimes is “unknown”
[/quote]

That would be truth.

As we can see, that is not what we are getting.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t know this for fact, not everything can be backed up with facts.

It is 100% personal opinion/anecdotal evidence. I don’t believe the current social climate in this country allows for this to happen. At least not in my neck of the woods where PG, Montgomery, Baltimore, and Howard County (one of the wealthiest in the country) are predominantly black.

I think this stuff stopped happening a while ago, women get screwed way more in the work place, imo.

-The weathest (monatarily) person in my family is: Black
-The richest woman in the world (Opera) is: Black
-The President is: Black
-A large percentage of pro athletes are: Black
-Congress, judges, high level gov workers: Black
-CEOs, CFOs, etc…:Black[/quote]

I am asking again one simple question…why you think your perspective is more right than someone else’s even if you could not possibly experience the same issues?[/quote]

Maybe for the same reason you always do?

The irony level is being turned up to 11.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

This is like asking someone to provide concrete evidence that proves Santa doesnt exist. The FBI doesnt have a report on that but anyone older than 4 and with COMMON SENSE knows it. [/quote]

You are saying that everyone knows “whites are at GREATER risk of racial attacks in certain areas than blacks”?

Nothing shown yet shows whites are greater risk of racial attack and no, not everyone knows this or agrees with this.[/quote]

Actually, there have been stats provided that show whites are at greater risk of racial attacks, at least if you consider rape a form of attack.

Hence the 14000 to 0 ratio of interracial sexual assaults reported in 2007.

Regardless, the point i made in my last post is clearly over your head.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, apparently the FBI does investigate crimes against whites if it is actually seen as a hate crime for race alone.

[/quote]

IF you had read the article instead of just using your GOOGLE-FU you would have read that the FBI declined to file hate crime charges because…

“whites are not covered by the hate crime statute because we’re talking about crimes that have a historic basis”

Did you even read this???

BOOM PROFESSOR GIT IT GIT IT!!!

/Ct. RockNinja’d