Transformers 2

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
SSC wrote:

Sorry, I grew up with Transformers, and that first movie was definitely a miserable piece of fuck.

like I told the other guy, you have bad taste. How could anyone not like the 1st one?[/quote]

Let’s see. I guess I’ll go through the bad points of the movie, first.

1.) Michael Bay directed. I’ve expounded on this enough, I think.

2,) Careless dialogue. Let’s see, the guy in the army has a comprehensive base of knowledge of engineering and nuclear physics. Some dinky college student hacks in to the government data base, isn’t punished at all, and is then considered to be an ally?

3.) John Voight as President of the United States.

4.) Significant screen time for John Torturo.

5.) That entire fuckin’ scene where the robots are suddenly in a Three Stooges movie outside of LaBuff’s house. Nevermind they’re a billion times more advanced and weigh hundreds of thousands of pounds, they’re just so darned cute when they’re losing their balance on little lawn gnomes! I’m sure all the 8 and 9 year old children that went and saw the movie got a big kick out of it.

6.) The entire last 45 minutes of the movie where you could tell what Transformer was what, but everyone kind of neglected that because “Whoa awesome SFX!”

7.) Giving a stupid “secret” purpose for an important structure, or the Hoover Dam. See also: National Treasure, National Treasure 2, anything written by Dan Brown, etc.

8.) They fucking destroyed Devastator. What’s the point in watching anymore?

9.) The old (never-before-used) formula of LaBuff being “a chosen one,” or one known to be trusted with the All-Spark. Isn’t that nice - a quaint kid who never saw it coming becomes hero of the world. Nice.

10.) The characters. There were none. There was no chemistry established between Fox and LaBuff in the movie, if you pay attention closely. The scene where they first “meet” is clumsy and poorly directed. What… so she’s into assholes, but hates this guy, but doesn’t like him, but fixed his care, but gets pissed at him, so she rides home with some kid she doesn’t even remember from high school, even after sitting right next to her in a class. Yeah, that’s exactly how I remember high school.

11.) It was boring. Other than some impressive SFX, I can’t say I was excited about the outcome of the movie in any way, because I know that with Michael Bay, all ends well for the protagonist.

12.) The parents. But someone else addressed this.

Here are the good parts.

1.) There are two hotties in it.

2.) Nice special effects.

3.) Boom ragghhh smash kkrrrreeeoooowww! (Mindless explosions, right?)

Now my question for you, how can you say I have bad taste? Seems to me that’s something that could only be known on a personal level, let alone some complete stranger on the internet talking about a majory Hollywood big-budget film. If people truly think I have “bad taste” for not enjoying a shallow money-maker, then apparently I’m way behind all of you cutting-edge movie goers.

Give me a break.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
SSC wrote:

Sorry, I grew up with Transformers, and that first movie was definitely a miserable piece of fuck.

like I told the other guy, you have bad taste. How could anyone not like the 1st one?

Let’s see. I guess I’ll go through the bad points of the movie, first.

1.) Michael Bay directed. I’ve expounded on this enough, I think.

2,) Careless dialogue. Let’s see, the guy in the army has a comprehensive base of knowledge of engineering and nuclear physics. Some dinky college student hacks in to the government data base, isn’t punished at all, and is then considered to be an ally?

3.) John Voight as President of the United States.

4.) Significant screen time for John Torturo.

5.) That entire fuckin’ scene where the robots are suddenly in a Three Stooges movie outside of LaBuff’s house. Nevermind they’re a billion times more advanced and weigh hundreds of thousands of pounds, they’re just so darned cute when they’re losing their balance on little lawn gnomes! I’m sure all the 8 and 9 year old children that went and saw the movie got a big kick out of it.

6.) The entire last 45 minutes of the movie where you could tell what Transformer was what, but everyone kind of neglected that because “Whoa awesome SFX!”

7.) Giving a stupid “secret” purpose for an important structure, or the Hoover Dam. See also: National Treasure, National Treasure 2, anything written by Dan Brown, etc.

8.) They fucking destroyed Devastator. What’s the point in watching anymore?

9.) The old (never-before-used) formula of LaBuff being “a chosen one,” or one known to be trusted with the All-Spark. Isn’t that nice - a quaint kid who never saw it coming becomes hero of the world. Nice.

10.) The characters. There were none. There was no chemistry established between Fox and LaBuff in the movie, if you pay attention closely. The scene where they first “meet” is clumsy and poorly directed. What… so she’s into assholes, but hates this guy, but doesn’t like him, but fixed his care, but gets pissed at him, so she rides home with some kid she doesn’t even remember from high school, even after sitting right next to her in a class. Yeah, that’s exactly how I remember high school.

11.) It was boring. Other than some impressive SFX, I can’t say I was excited about the outcome of the movie in any way, because I know that with Michael Bay, all ends well for the protagonist.

12.) The parents. But someone else addressed this.

Here are the good parts.

1.) There are two hotties in it.

2.) Nice special effects.

3.) Boom ragghhh smash kkrrrreeeoooowww! (Mindless explosions, right?)

Now my question for you, how can you say I have bad taste? Seems to me that’s something that could only be known on a personal level, let alone some complete stranger on the internet talking about a majory Hollywood big-budget film. If people truly think I have “bad taste” for not enjoying a shallow money-maker, then apparently I’m way behind all of you cutting-edge movie goers.

Give me a break.[/quote]

John Voight wasn’t president. That mistake alone means you weren’t paying attention.

Michael Bay did a decent job with Friday the 13th and quite a few others recently, not to mention that world wide, too many people liked the first one to say it truly sucked. You simply didn’t like it. BIG difference.

Also, in the cartoon, that kid named Spike was the one who rode around with them. Why is it so far off to keep a kid in it this time?

I agree about the scene outside the house and this has been brought up before. They gave the parents too much screen time. They were “funny” to a degree, but they wear on you quickly.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
John Voight wasn’t president. That mistake alone means you weren’t paying attention.

Michael Bay did a decent job with Friday the 13th and quite a few others recently, not to mention that world wide, too many people liked the first one to say it truly sucked. You simply didn’t like it. BIG difference.

Also, in the cartoon, that kid named Spike was the one who rode around with them. Why is it so far off to keep a kid in it this time?

I agree about the scene outside the house and this has been brought up before. They gave the parents too much screen time. They were “funny” to a degree, but they wear on you quickly.[/quote]

Oops, my mistake about Voight. If we’re getting that picky, MB was technically only a producer for Friday the 13th. :wink:

And my problem wasn’t that there was a kid in the movie, it was that he had the semi-moniker of ‘the kid who didn’t know he was destined for greatness.’ It’s just something played out all too often.

Admittedly, most of Hollywood’s larger-budgeted movies are pretty bad days these, and are either crappy re-makes, sequels, or concepts from other movies adapted into a new story. That’s why Hancock is an impressive summer blockbuster, IMO. Interesting story that gets much deeper as the movie progresses, he was an original character, and it kept the cheesiness to a minimum.

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I liked the scene when they were outside the house. LOL, some of you are way too picky. Optimus saying “my bad” in that scene was funny

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[quote]SSC wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
SSC wrote:

Sorry, I grew up with Transformers, and that first movie was definitely a miserable piece of fuck.

like I told the other guy, you have bad taste. How could anyone not like the 1st one?

Let’s see. I guess I’ll go through the bad points of the movie, first.

1.) Michael Bay directed. I’ve expounded on this enough, I think.

2,) Careless dialogue. Let’s see, the guy in the army has a comprehensive base of knowledge of engineering and nuclear physics. Some dinky college student hacks in to the government data base, isn’t punished at all, and is then considered to be an ally?

3.) John Voight as President of the United States.

4.) Significant screen time for John Torturo.

5.) That entire fuckin’ scene where the robots are suddenly in a Three Stooges movie outside of LaBuff’s house. Nevermind they’re a billion times more advanced and weigh hundreds of thousands of pounds, they’re just so darned cute when they’re losing their balance on little lawn gnomes! I’m sure all the 8 and 9 year old children that went and saw the movie got a big kick out of it.

6.) The entire last 45 minutes of the movie where you could tell what Transformer was what, but everyone kind of neglected that because “Whoa awesome SFX!”

7.) Giving a stupid “secret” purpose for an important structure, or the Hoover Dam. See also: National Treasure, National Treasure 2, anything written by Dan Brown, etc.

8.) They fucking destroyed Devastator. What’s the point in watching anymore?

9.) The old (never-before-used) formula of LaBuff being “a chosen one,” or one known to be trusted with the All-Spark. Isn’t that nice - a quaint kid who never saw it coming becomes hero of the world. Nice.

10.) The characters. There were none. There was no chemistry established between Fox and LaBuff in the movie, if you pay attention closely. The scene where they first “meet” is clumsy and poorly directed. What… so she’s into assholes, but hates this guy, but doesn’t like him, but fixed his care, but gets pissed at him, so she rides home with some kid she doesn’t even remember from high school, even after sitting right next to her in a class. Yeah, that’s exactly how I remember high school.

11.) It was boring. Other than some impressive SFX, I can’t say I was excited about the outcome of the movie in any way, because I know that with Michael Bay, all ends well for the protagonist.

12.) The parents. But someone else addressed this.

Here are the good parts.

1.) There are two hotties in it.

2.) Nice special effects.

3.) Boom ragghhh smash kkrrrreeeoooowww! (Mindless explosions, right?)

Now my question for you, how can you say I have bad taste? Seems to me that’s something that could only be known on a personal level, let alone some complete stranger on the internet talking about a majory Hollywood big-budget film. If people truly think I have “bad taste” for not enjoying a shallow money-maker, then apparently I’m way behind all of you cutting-edge movie goers.

Give me a break.[/quote]

I agree fully. But I guess that’s hollywood, pick a popular cartoon from the past, make the story likeable for the masses (as in rape the story and completely change it), and make millions! I grew up with transformers too (I still want to buy the optimus prime action figure), and thought I was the only one who hated the movie. I do hope they make megan fox action figures though…

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my only real complaint about the first was the chessy humor between the parents (already discussed) and the stupid secret sector govt agent. A lot of his lines were dumb humor that really distracted me from becoming involved in the plot or atleast would momentarily make me stop being interested and be like, WTF. He was the jar jar binks of the transformers movie…

Other than the above I liked it a lot and look forward to the new one…

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I understand why lots of people dislike the movie, it’s painfully obvious. It’s completely devoid of any real substance. As hot as Megan Fox is, she’s so… dry. She has no emotion in her voice, and there are so many glamour shots of her that it just gets annoying. She never really gets dirty, her makeup is perfect for being in the middle of a battle, while the guys are all grimy. I understand they have to keep her looking good, but holy shit… Glam shots after being shot at? Please

I thought the parents did get annoying as well, but the masturbation question always makes me laugh. It’s absolutely epic.

The movie was phenomenal for what it was, eye and ear candy. From Megan Fox leaning over a classic (yet dirty) Camaro, to the many tranformation scenes… My eyes were happy.

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First movie stand out scenes for me

  1. Blackout at the army base
  2. Starscream taking on the jets
  3. Starscream kicking two of the autobots asses in the street
  4. Megatron flicking away the humans
  5. Blackout attacking and transforming in the street

Let downs

  1. The Bumblebee v Barricade car chase - what a tease, that could have been a wicked car chase but is pretty lame
  2. The ‘geeks’ who do all the code cracking stuff, couldn’t stand it.
  3. Jon Voight and Turturro’s characters; didn’t bring anything to the movie or plot that I enjoyed or found constructive
  4. The mess up of calling the tank DEVASTATOR instead of Brawl. That was like sacrilege for me!! (and yes, I did own Devastator when I was a kid).
  5. Scorponok following the special forces team before trying to kill them. Why not just kill them straight away at night?
  6. LaBuff outrunning Barricade.

Yes, I’m picky. Enjoyed the first movie, own it on HD, hope the second one is good too!!!

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OK T-peeps, I am off to go watch this movie. I will come back and give my opinion.

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saw it, I enjoyed it thoroughly - half the people thought the first movie was better the other half prefered the second(i was with the latter)

I wont talk much more about it but there was one seen I jizzed in my pants

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I saw it last night. I left wondering how a movie can be SO amazing in some ways and yet suck SO badly in others.

In terms of action and mind blowing visuals, it was one of the best movies I have ever seen. There was so much amazing cinematography that I found myself repeatedly absorbed in simple aesthetic appreciation of what I was looking at. The fight scenes were astounding. They were fast and kinetic and yet you could still see what was going on. The metal gleamed. The emotions of the Tformers was loud and clear. It was A feast for the eyes as they say.
And also there is a lot of appreciably decent acting in it as well. Nothing stood out as being terrible,

On the other hand the humor was terrible. Absolutely purile, and the kind of sophomoric drivel that teenage boys and stoners just love, but won’t even get me to crack a grin.
There was some of that in the first one but the second one is way way way over the top. Didn’t like the screen time of the parents in Transformers? Well this one is WORSE. Far worse. The mom is MANIC. She does something shit crazy in every scene she’s in.

The dialogue was often horrible and they did one thing that i thought was really really weird. They came using plot devices from other movies. Scenes, scenarios, dialogue. Something will happen, and you will think “wait. That same thing happened in ________” and then before you can remember what it was the scene frantically moves on to the next thing.

That’s another thing. As long as the movie was, the pace was crazy fast almost all the way through and in retrospect I think they may have don that so the viewer won’t have the chance to grow too cerebral about things. But that’s probably a lot easier for some than others lol

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[quote]jtg987 wrote:
saw it, I enjoyed it thoroughly - half the people thought the first movie was better the other half prefered the second(i was with the latter)

I wont talk much more about it but there was one seen I jizzed in my pants[/quote]

is that the dorm scene? I heard something about it on the radio

it’s been getting awful reviews so far

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Just came back from seeing, GO WATCH THIS. I won’t spoil anything, but I really like this. This will be a Blu Ray collector for sure. Also, I saw this on IMAX, I swear I want one of those things LOL. The screen is so clear it looks like you are looking at real action.

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In case some of you military folks didn’t notice or some of you civilians don’t know, Tyrese went from a TSgt in part 1 and now is a Chief Master Sergeant which is the highest enlisted rank obtainable by a member of the Air Force within a short time span. Basically, he jumped past 2 ranks and still looks like he’s 30 years old. Most Chiefs have been in for 23 plus years.

Yes, there have been some fast burners who made chief in 14 to 15 years, but we are not talking about that. They made him a Chief in 2 years or however long the time frame of the movie presents from the end of part 1 to the beginning of part 2. The movie producers could have at least made him a MSgt which is one more rank above TSgt just for help saving the world. But to make him a Chief? I think it’s funny! Can’t wait to see it.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Just came back from seeing, GO WATCH THIS. I won’t spoil anything, but I really like this. This will be a Blu Ray collector for sure. Also, I saw this on IMAX, I swear I want one of those things LOL. The screen is so clear it looks like you are looking at real action. [/quote]

Totally opposite of what all the reviewers are giving, Glad you liked i look foreward to watching it this weekend

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
strungoutboy21 wrote:
I’m expecting a lot of action and Megan Fox looking hot.

^^

People trashing the movie are missing the point. Explosions and Megan Fox.[/quote]

X1000!!

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
jtg987 wrote:
saw it, I enjoyed it thoroughly - half the people thought the first movie was better the other half prefered the second(i was with the latter)

I wont talk much more about it but there was one seen I jizzed in my pants

is that the dorm scene? I heard something about it on the radio

it’s been getting awful reviews so far[/quote]

no, the aweful reviews are probably from people who enjoy crappy art house films, it was transformer related pretty much

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Watched it today…I enjoyed it…BUT there is way too much “Michael Bay” in this one. Perfect example: the “twin” Autobots…tsk…tsk,Michael Bay.

Megan Fox…she’s pretty and all,but she annoyed me. Enough with the glam crap(as someone mentioned already). As much as her mouth was open and pouty…there should have been sandcastles on her lips in the desert. I’ve seen Pre-K kids who can act more convincingly than her…she stood out like a sore thumb…with an infection…lol.

But there is enough action and “wow” factors to soothe the pain of terrible acting and crudeness. As for whether you will enjoy it or not,it is definitely worth going to the theater to find out for yourself.

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You can’t take a review from a critic on a movie like this seriously. Most critics aren’t fans of Transformers in the first place and they aren’t the intended audience. I don’t even understand why critics bother reviewing it. The movie isn’t for them and they miss the point anyway.

Plus, critics love to bash anything Bay does. This movie could be Citizen Kane and most critics will hate it because it’s a Michael Bay film.

In the end, nothing the critics say will make any difference. This movie is going to make a bazillion dollars this weekend.

I’m seeing it on IMAX in about 5 hours.

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I like it explosions, robots fighting, and hot chicks make this movie a must see.