Trace DNA to Your Ancestor's Home 1,000 Yrs Ago

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m pretty sure all my DNA ancestry leads to Scotland.

My mom is from there and my dad’s great grandparents were from there.[/quote]

Not originally. The Celts began migrating to the British isles around 450BC. The earliest distinctly Celtic cultural/linguistic groups developed in Eastern/Central Europe and then spread throughout France, Northern Italy, Spain, Portugal then the British Isles.[/quote]

How fallible of me…I should of course remembered that if the DNA can be traced what was it? 7,500 years?[/quote]

I’m not an expert but I believe it depends what aspect of DNA is examined. The origin of your haplogroup can be traced back to where it originated which in many cases is tens of thousands of years. The origin of the human species can be traced back over a hundred thousand years to East Africa.
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Question: How do they determine the origin of a haplogroup? Is it during archaeological digs where bones are tested or is it something else?

On a side note; One thing I noticed here in Ireland is that a lot of men who have dark hair but choose to grow a beard have red facial hair or a mix of dark and red’ my father included.

Speaking of red hair and Ireland (if you care) is that Genetic research shows a strong similarity between the Y chromosome haplotypes of males from north-western Spain and Portugal and Irish men with Gaelic surnames hence the abundance of dark haired people (not red haired) in the south and west of the country, my wife who is from there has jet black hair as dose her family.

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[quote]SLAINGE wrote:

Question: How do they determine the origin of a haplogroup? Is it during archaeological digs where bones are tested or is it something else?

On a side note; One thing I noticed here in Ireland is that a lot of men who have dark hair but choose to grow a beard have red facial hair or a mix of dark and red’ my father included.

Speaking of red hair and Ireland (if you care) is that Genetic research shows a strong similarity between the Y chromosome haplotypes of males from north-western Spain and Portugal and Irish men with Gaelic surnames hence the abundance of dark haired people (not red haired) in the south and west of the country, my wife who is from there has jet black hair as dose her family.

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I believe the origin of haplogroups is determined by DNA testing of human remains.

And yes I’m very interested in Irish/Celtic DNA which is why I took the DNA tests. I’m mostly ‘black Irish’ myself. I have dark hair, olive complexion and blue eyes. There are many theories about how these dark features entered the Irish gene pool:

I don’t have an opinion on where these dark features entered the gene pool because not enough is known, but I do have a couple of observations:

People with dark features in Ireland tend to be taller.

They also seem to be overly represented in the upper class.

I’m descended from Brian Boru but this is no claim to fame as many people in Ireland are descended from the High Kings.

As for dark features and ginger hair I’d say that’s probably due to mixing of the two ‘types’ for want of a better word.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]SLAINGE wrote:

Question: How do they determine the origin of a haplogroup? Is it during archaeological digs where bones are tested or is it something else?

On a side note; One thing I noticed here in Ireland is that a lot of men who have dark hair but choose to grow a beard have red facial hair or a mix of dark and red’ my father included.

Speaking of red hair and Ireland (if you care) is that Genetic research shows a strong similarity between the Y chromosome haplotypes of males from north-western Spain and Portugal and Irish men with Gaelic surnames hence the abundance of dark haired people (not red haired) in the south and west of the country, my wife who is from there has jet black hair as dose her family.

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I believe the origin of haplogroups is determined by DNA testing of human remains.

And yes I’m very interested in Irish/Celtic DNA which is why I took the DNA tests. I’m mostly ‘black Irish’ myself. I have dark hair, olive complexion and blue eyes. There are many theories about how these dark features entered the Irish gene pool:

I don’t have an opinion on where these dark features entered the gene pool because not enough is known, but I do have a couple of observations:

People with dark features in Ireland tend to be taller.

They also seem to be overly represented in the upper class.

I’m descended from Brian Boru but this is no claim to fame as many people in Ireland are descended from the High Kings.

As for dark features and ginger hair I’d say that’s probably due to mixing of the two ‘types’ for want of a better word.[/quote]

…tend to be taller… also seem to be overly represented in the upper class.

These two may go hand in hand because diet would influence the height of a person and anyone that could afford better food would be taller. However I have never noticed this with dark haired people.

I am sitting next to a black haired blue eyed guy with an old Irish surname and he is 5 8’ whereas I’m fair haired blue eyed of the same height with an old Irish surname, the difference he is from the south west whereas I am from the south east. Anyway what I have noticed is on the west coast there are more dark haired people than on the east coast. I lived on the west for 5 years. I know this is all anecdotal stuff but I have been observing this for years! This is all changing however with the influx of eastern Europeans bringing the superior looking genes with them lol

Speaking of Brian Boru a friend of mine was fighting on the side of Brian Boru up at the Battle of Clontarf Millennium Celebrations and said it was unreal. He brought the kids up for the weekend all kitted out in the gear of the time.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
Of course…because after all…we’re all black on the inside.[/quote]

I’m brown from the waist down LOL

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I’ve had full spectrum, yDNA and mtDNA tests done. Surprising results. As well as determining the origin of your haplogroup, the tests also provide matches to other people and their ethnicity. When replicated DNA creates mistakes in the code - basically like typos. When compared with other people, if they have the same typos it shows you are related to them.[/quote]

How did you come to have the test done? How expensive was it? I must admit, I’m interested in having it done myself.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I’ve had full spectrum, yDNA and mtDNA tests done. Surprising results. As well as determining the origin of your haplogroup, the tests also provide matches to other people and their ethnicity. When replicated DNA creates mistakes in the code - basically like typos. When compared with other people, if they have the same typos it shows you are related to them.[/quote]

How did you come to have the test done? How expensive was it? I must admit, I’m interested in having it done myself.[/quote]

I took the tests because of my interest in genealogy/family history.

They post you a cotton tip which you scrape on the inside of your mouth coating it with skin cells. Then you send it back and get the results in a few weeks. There are a number of other places that do DNA tests. I researched them and this appears to be the best place to get it done.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
I’ve had full spectrum, yDNA and mtDNA tests done. Surprising results. As well as determining the origin of your haplogroup, the tests also provide matches to other people and their ethnicity. When replicated DNA creates mistakes in the code - basically like typos. When compared with other people, if they have the same typos it shows you are related to them.[/quote]

How did you come to have the test done? How expensive was it? I must admit, I’m interested in having it done myself.[/quote]

I took the tests because of my interest in genealogy/family history.

They post you a cotton tip which you scrape on the inside of your mouth coating it with skin cells. Then you send it back and get the results in a few weeks. There are a number of other places that do DNA tests. I researched them and this appears to be the best place to get it done.[/quote]

Thanks!