TOT ExperiMENT Log

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Haven’t updated in a good while, though that’s partially because I had nothing new to report.

So here’s the latest from perhaps the past eight weeks:

After a while on MENT only I started to really feel signs of low e2. If I was vigilant about my HCG it would be ok, but if I skipped a day or modified the amount downward I would feel not excellent. Blood work kept coming back normal, so health wise it was all good. But mentally low e2 drags on you (or me at least) and it took months to really become bad enough to address.

Added back test just to see how I felt and yep, life was sunny again. So test 100mg/w and MENT 2mg/d was the protocol.

Cut was meh. I’m shitty at cutting, it’s just who I am. Started at 189 and ended at 181. Very disappointed in how it went. That was five weeks, but here’s the catch: I had been cutting for a previous six weeks and ping-ponged between 189-186, always always always landing back at the high number no matter what. So I tried a new approach and it worked well enough. Will likely revisit that this winter.

Currently at 184 and starting a slow, lower surplus bulk with test 200, MENT 70, and adding DHB 300 this week. I’ve designed like six different versions of this blast and finally chose the one that I thought would be the most interesting with the fewest complications. We shall see. Last two weeks I’ve been gradually upping the MENT and have no side effects yet. 7.5mg/d is a nice spot where it doesn’t change my BP from the baseline 2mg dose but it gives me some added fullness.

Overall I think I’ve improved some, but it’s all on the margins. I look bigger at 184 than I did at 189, so that’s cool. Shoulders, traps, back, arms all look thicker. Chest is still an embarrassing nightmare that makes me want to never go to the beach ever again.

Anyway, doing measurements this week (hopefully) and will use that to track progress. The plan with the gradual MENT increase was to keep the numbers from being skewed by a big jump in water and glycogen that you get from that first burst of hormones in the beginning few weeks. My thought was that if I normalize that and then take measurements I’ll get more accurate results.

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I am excited. I am most likely adding DHB to my current blast (if my guy ever gets back to me). I am thinking 350-400 mg/wk. I hope you keep logging. The information on DHB is pretty scarce. There is only a few things on YouTube about it. Hopefully, you don’t get the crippling DHB lol. I have heard it can be tough to walk if you pin quads or glutes if you get it from somewhere incompetent in brewing it.

IDK, what the hell is going on with my chest. All the benching hasn’t made it better. It seems bench for me only works the delts because I also have small triceps. I just really like some nice muscle boobies.

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I’ll third all that. Barbell does not hit my chest like other guys, I need heavy dumbbells’ and isolation machines to do that. My home gym allows me to go heavy (for me) on bench but my dumbbells’ max out at 75 I can’t get any more weight on them. I have long muscle bellies so no muscles have great peaks. That means my pecs tie in nearly together so there is very little separation in the middle that some guys get. Chest certainly looks better after my last cut, but I feel you both on the chest-netics. @iron_yuppie I started MENT A this week with my TRT cruise, going to try 7.5 per day. Thanks for keeping this log.

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It arrived already crashed. Fortunately I have some basic chemistry skills and was able to reblend it with more oil and get it to hold at a more stable concentration. (It was 25% overdosed, which is nice, but that’s a recipe for pip)

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It is probably real then at least. If I understand correctly it isn’t the most expensive compound, but at the same time it isn’t that easy to source. Supply and demand don’t add up, so I am confused.

I’ve heard some guys do really well heating it every injection. Claims of no pip doing it that way.

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I tried homebrewing my own DHB at 125 mg/ml and overdosed by 10%. I got impatient and it crashed before I even got done filtering it. I am pretty sure I filtered some of the crashed hormone out of the oil as well. I pitched it all, luckily it was only about 5g of DHB

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I don’t even bench anymore. I gave up. I do decline (shoulder pain is eliminated that way) and a ton of flys. That has been better than what I was doing before, but it’s still just a mess. I store ~90% of my body fat in my chest, apparently. When I was thin years ago, before trt, I still had a boob-like chest. It’s like gyno but without having actual gyno. Ultimately there’s only so much I can do, but it still sucks.

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If I were to brew it myself I would go 50-75 mg/mL. I say so low because really competent brewers have trouble keeping it from crashing at 100 mg/mL, and I am not competent.

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Trick is MCT oil. Because it’s a mild solvent all on its own you don’t need to crank the BB too high, so pip can be reduced. But nothing can be worse than the primo I had years ago made with EO and guaiacol (for reasons beyond comprehension) that left what looked like half a golf ball under my skin wherever I pinned. That was $500 that I happily threw in the trash.

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I think it will hold just fine at 100 mg/ml, but I used a bit of heat and I didn’t even let it cool to see if it would hold before I started filtering it. I got a great piece of advice from @iron_yuppie that I failed to use… be patient.

I have quickly learned that less heat is best and that the compounds need to mix at no heat for a while, even if you used heat to get it to mix. In my limited experience with homebrewing, this seems to make the compound hold MUCH better than just throwing a shit load of heat at it.

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it’s funny you say that about primo. My primo (E) has held just fine at 150 but I used very little heat and let it mix for a long time at room temp (however if I went up to 200 it might have crashed). I used MCT oil for all 9 of my brews, and the only one I screwed up beyond repair was the DHB.

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For what it’s worth, I don’t think I experienced any change in regards to heat.

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Benching has made my chest like a natural A cup boob. Upper chest non existent but a nice firm handful at nipple height. Started seriously incline benching a few months ago and voila upper chest is growing steadily. Looks very nice.

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