[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
Greg LLoyd #95
Valentino Rossi #46, The Professer, a.k.a. The Doctor
Clyde “The Glide” Drexler, #22 in your programs but #1 in your hearts…
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Is he a doctor? I’ve seen him in pictures with needles, he’s doing it wrong lol.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
thanks.
though I respect the awesome abilities of the top tier of NFL players…the reason I do not include them in these type of lists, because:
it is a team sport, and no matter how awesome you are your abilities are skewed either negatively or positively in a unquantifiable way with the guys who play around you. Emmit Smith comes to mind…great running back, but also had perhaps the best offensive line and fullback ever as well.
sports that are practiced at high level in many countries on an international stage seem to have more weight than primarily single country sports, just IMHO.
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I was more going for general athletic ability with my post, as Karelin, Urlacher, and Robinson were all strong, fast, and just wonderfully talented. They probably could have succeeded at many other sports, such as Karelin in football (though maybe rugby would be his sport. The man was nimble enough to turn flips and cartwheels at 130kg). Alexeyev, while he represents the absolute mental toughness and drive it takes to be a competitive athlete at the highest level attainable, I just can’t see the man succeeding in any sport besides Olympic lifting. Though he is an incredibly intimidating man.
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
thanks.
though I respect the awesome abilities of the top tier of NFL players…the reason I do not include them in these type of lists, because:
it is a team sport, and no matter how awesome you are your abilities are skewed either negatively or positively in a unquantifiable way with the guys who play around you. Emmit Smith comes to mind…great running back, but also had perhaps the best offensive line and fullback ever as well.
sports that are practiced at high level in many countries on an international stage seem to have more weight than primarily single country sports, just IMHO.
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I was more going for general athletic ability with my post, as Karelin, Urlacher, and Robinson were all strong, fast, and just wonderfully talented. They probably could have succeeded at many other sports, such as Karelin in football (though maybe rugby would be his sport. The man was nimble enough to turn flips and cartwheels at 130kg). Alexeyev, while he represents the absolute mental toughness and drive it takes to be a competitive athlete at the highest level attainable, I just can’t see the man succeeding in any sport besides Olympic lifting. Though he is an incredibly intimidating man. [/quote]
Call it what you want and anyway you see it man. If the dude is an athlete from any discipline that’s made you pay attention or inspired you… it counts.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
1.sugar ray robinson
2.vasili alexeyev
3.aleksandr karelin
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Wow. Nailed my top 3 picks as well. Just to be different, I’d replace Alexeyev with Brian Urlacher. The man can run like he weighs 100lbs, but still can hit like a train full of extra train parts.
Karelin is too awesome to leave out. By far my favorite athlete of all time, and just a great man as well. I found an awesome article from Sports Illustrated 1991, when he was dominating the entire world. It mentions how he wrestles not for his government, but for the people of Russia. A truly inspiring figure. http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/articles/sikarelin.html
Sugar Ray is just incredible. Beautiful balance, proprioception, wicked speed, a devestating power. He truly excelled at every qualification for an all-around athlete. [/quote]
thanks.
though I respect the awesome abilities of the top tier of NFL players…the reason I do not include them in these type of lists, because:
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Okay Heavy I missed this earlier, I have to say in defense of a guy who has watched NFL for a long long time this is the cream of the crop.
Your example of Emmit well how come they had no other RB that could do what he did? He is the leading rusher in league history and yes he had help, however his game was at an elite level.
Or maybe I just a rabid NFL fan. 
Emmit easily gets my vote for top three WORST sports commentaters, he would debacle every telecast lol.
Although ES is far from my favorite RB he imo would have been in the top five in yards whether he was on the Cowboys roster or not. Dude was durable as hell and tough. That game he separated his shoulder against the Giants and kept playing was incredible.
Clyde throwing it down! Still can’t believe they couldn’t pull out atleast one title back then with the roster they had.
^ ES was not hired for his articulation, I loved the guy for what he did for my team. But even I cant listen to him talk. Rod Woodson is probably my favorite guy to listen to on NFL Network. You can just feel his passion and strength. Even though I hated his ass when he played.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
1.sugar ray robinson
2.vasili alexeyev
3.aleksandr karelin
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Wow. Nailed my top 3 picks as well. Just to be different, I’d replace Alexeyev with Brian Urlacher. The man can run like he weighs 100lbs, but still can hit like a train full of extra train parts.
Karelin is too awesome to leave out. By far my favorite athlete of all time, and just a great man as well. I found an awesome article from Sports Illustrated 1991, when he was dominating the entire world. It mentions how he wrestles not for his government, but for the people of Russia. A truly inspiring figure. http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/articles/sikarelin.html
Sugar Ray is just incredible. Beautiful balance, proprioception, wicked speed, a devestating power. He truly excelled at every qualification for an all-around athlete. [/quote]
thanks.
though I respect the awesome abilities of the top tier of NFL players…the reason I do not include them in these type of lists, because:
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Okay Heavy I missed this earlier, I have to say in defense of a guy who has watched NFL for a long long time this is the cream of the crop.
Your example of Emmit well how come they had no other RB that could do what he did? He is the leading rusher in league history and yes he had help, however his game was at an elite level.
Or maybe I just a rabid NFL fan. [/quote]
because no other running back had 4/5(or 5/6 if you count the fullback) of his blockers make the pro bowl consistently year after year while playing with them.
hey…this is an opinion thread…not who is right thread…lets not argue.
this is just my opinion. Emmit was a stud…I actually used to train in the summer with his back-up Tommy Agee, and Tommy was a stud. he had lots of good things to say about Emmit.
you may have the last word, no need to hijack a fun thread.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]grayman19 wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
1.sugar ray robinson
2.vasili alexeyev
3.aleksandr karelin
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Wow. Nailed my top 3 picks as well. Just to be different, I’d replace Alexeyev with Brian Urlacher. The man can run like he weighs 100lbs, but still can hit like a train full of extra train parts.
Karelin is too awesome to leave out. By far my favorite athlete of all time, and just a great man as well. I found an awesome article from Sports Illustrated 1991, when he was dominating the entire world. It mentions how he wrestles not for his government, but for the people of Russia. A truly inspiring figure. http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/articles/sikarelin.html
Sugar Ray is just incredible. Beautiful balance, proprioception, wicked speed, a devestating power. He truly excelled at every qualification for an all-around athlete. [/quote]
thanks.
though I respect the awesome abilities of the top tier of NFL players…the reason I do not include them in these type of lists, because:
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Okay Heavy I missed this earlier, I have to say in defense of a guy who has watched NFL for a long long time this is the cream of the crop.
Your example of Emmit well how come they had no other RB that could do what he did? He is the leading rusher in league history and yes he had help, however his game was at an elite level.
Or maybe I just a rabid NFL fan. [/quote]
because no other running back had 4/5(or 5/6 if you count the fullback) of his blockers make the pro bowl consistently year after year while playing with them.
hey…this is an opinion thread…not who is right thread…lets not argue.
this is just my opinion. Emmit was a stud…I actually used to train in the summer with his back-up Tommy Agee, and Tommy was a stud. he had lots of good things to say about Emmit.
you may have the last word, no need to hijack a fun thread.
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Hahahahaha I would not argue about this brother, I am just really an avid football fan. I respect guys who are at the top of whatever sport they play professionally. That is the whole entertainment for me is to see the competition of elite athletes.
Roy Keane (Soccer)
Tony Gonzalez (NFL)
The Rock (Yes I know WWF is fake but he is/was still an awesome athlete.)
Misha K., Hagler, Hearns.
1.larry bird
2. frank thomas
3.the white guy who gets teabagged everytime a black player dunks over him.