Top 10 Sports with the Fittest Athletes

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

x a million

Few NHL players are American.[/quote]

and by “few” do you mean 20% of the NHL? Second to Canada’s 52%… so yes there are a lot more canadians in the NHL than Americans but I definitely wouldnt say only a “few NHL players are American”[/quote]

Last I checked 1/5 is a minority. If you read the posts, the guy was talking about the talent pool for hockey estimating using only Americans. When in fact the talent pool, by your own admission would actually be about 5 times larger than that. The scenario was American players versus players originally from outside the US. In that case Americans are a vast minority.[/quote]
Keep in mind that whiteflash is from Texas too. Hardly a hotbed of hockey talent. I’d be willing to bet far more kids play hockey in the northern states.

My old boss lives in Boston, and according to him, Hockey is the 2nd most popular sport next to baseball there (although I would bet that depends on how a given team is actually doing).

[quote]Rainclouds wrote:
I might be bias but id have to say sprinters because I’ve seen many sprinters squat over 600 at under 200 pounds.
They also are faster than any one else and have some of the lowest body fat.

I don’t know about their stamina because sprinters don’t go over 400 meters to often.

But i would guess its above average.
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You’ve seen many sprinters squat over 600 at under 200 bw? How many? vids? Thats a fairly bold claim.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
My List:
The 10 Fitness Domains:
1.Cardiovascular&Respiratory 2.Stamina 3.Strength 4.Flexibility 5.Power 6.Speed 7.Cordination 8.Agility 9.Balance 10.Accuracy

1.Decathalon 2.NFL (Skilled positions) 3.Crossfit 4.UFC 5.Wrestling 6.Boxing 7.Rugby 8.NBA 9.NHL 10.Worlds Strongest Man Competitor

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If your list is in follows your criteria how is an NBA guard not number 1? Do some of y’all not realize how much running, cutting, pushing, blocking, jumping, sprinting, shooting, body control, etc… goes on in an NBA game? And an NFL skill position? Having a 3 second play then resting for a minute takes about half of your criteria out of the equation.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

You really think a fucking hockey player wouldn’t admit that they don’t have the speed, stamina, dexterity, or overall athleticism of a basketball player? Me and my butterfly wings are gonna fly out here now 'cause we’re tired of dealing with a moron.[/quote]

speed stamina dexterity and athleticism AT WHAT?

How bout this. NBA guys vs NHL guys at basketball followed by a hockey contest. NBA guys do worse at hockey than NHL guys at BBall.

But, regardless, your only argument is because you “think” a hockey guy “would admit” something. Get real. You’re an idiot.[/quote]

And you know this how? I’d place a million dollar bet that if you take any 10 guys from the NHL and NBA and put them in a combine setting measuring multiple athletic qualities that ball players would blow the hockey players fucking doors off.
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“And you know this how?” Because basketball is an easier off the cuff sport to play than hockey. Pretty much anyone can do the basics of BBall. <-see I have a reason.

But, I’ve been asking you how you know the things you’re claiming, to which you once again respond with a speculative unfounded claim. Nice. GTFO.[/quote]

I know it 'cause I can see it with my own two eyes, retard. Jesus Christ. Just about everyone here has agreed with me yet you still feel the need to argue. [/quote]

Wow… You honestly think Basketball players are the top? I’d be willing to bet a quarter of the players in the nba couldn’t bench their bodyweight, and maybe 10-15% could not run a 5k without stopping for an extended period of time.[/quote]

Yes, and apparently so do quite a few others. And you are out of your mind if you believe what you just posted. Do you realize how physical and how much running/sprinting goes on in an NBA game?

Handball. More brutal than Basketball :wink:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
My List:
The 10 Fitness Domains:
1.Cardiovascular&Respiratory 2.Stamina 3.Strength 4.Flexibility 5.Power 6.Speed 7.Cordination 8.Agility 9.Balance 10.Accuracy

1.Decathalon 2.NFL (Skilled positions) 3.Crossfit 4.UFC 5.Wrestling 6.Boxing 7.Rugby 8.NBA 9.NHL 10.Worlds Strongest Man Competitor

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If your list is in follows your criteria how is an NBA guard not number 1? Do some of y’all not realize how much running, cutting, pushing, blocking, jumping, sprinting, shooting, body control, etc… goes on in an NBA game? And an NFL skill position? Having a 3 second play then resting for a minute takes about half of your criteria out of the equation.[/quote]

While I agree with you for the most part, I would put an NFL RB or LB against ANY NBA player in a contest of the criteria the dude you quoted posted. I know you’ve got a lot of experience in basketball, not sure about football, but that break is necessary to keep up the high level of player. Imagine if basketball players gave everything they had on every play. Thats what that break in plays allows football players to do. How often do you see all ten players sprinting for a fast break or to get back on defense? Running, cutting, pushing, blocking, jumping, sprinting, body control- football. Basketball is a contact sport, football is a collision sport.

I’m not saying I think one is better than the other, but to discount skill position players in football is downright ignorant IMO.

[quote]USMCpoolee wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
My List:
The 10 Fitness Domains:
1.Cardiovascular&Respiratory 2.Stamina 3.Strength 4.Flexibility 5.Power 6.Speed 7.Cordination 8.Agility 9.Balance 10.Accuracy

1.Decathalon 2.NFL (Skilled positions) 3.Crossfit 4.UFC 5.Wrestling 6.Boxing 7.Rugby 8.NBA 9.NHL 10.Worlds Strongest Man Competitor

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If your list is in follows your criteria how is an NBA guard not number 1? Do some of y’all not realize how much running, cutting, pushing, blocking, jumping, sprinting, shooting, body control, etc… goes on in an NBA game? And an NFL skill position? Having a 3 second play then resting for a minute takes about half of your criteria out of the equation.[/quote]

While I agree with you for the most part, I would put an NFL RB or LB against ANY NBA player in a contest of the criteria the dude you quoted posted. I know you’ve got a lot of experience in basketball, not sure about football, but that break is necessary to keep up the high level of player. Imagine if basketball players gave everything they had on every play. Thats what that break in plays allows football players to do. How often do you see all ten players sprinting for a fast break or to get back on defense? Running, cutting, pushing, blocking, jumping, sprinting, body control- football. Basketball is a contact sport, football is a collision sport.

I’m not saying I think one is better than the other, but to discount skill position players in football is downright ignorant IMO.[/quote]

I’m not discounting football at all. Those dudes take a savage beating week after week and display a shit ton of athletic ability. But, I don’t think you understand how fast the NBA game is. These dudes have to sprint a couple of miles a game. Then you have to add in ball handling, defenders pulling on you and your jersey, shooting, etc… Watch someone run full speed while dribbling, then stop on a dime, spin past the defender, plant and explode to dunk on someone else and tell me the level of fitness and athleticsm can be matched by anyother sport. Maybe some of y’all will never agree with me, and that’s fine. But, basketball players are by far the most fit and athletic of all sports, and to me that cannot be argued.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

x a million

Few NHL players are American.[/quote]

and by “few” do you mean 20% of the NHL? Second to Canada’s 52%… so yes there are a lot more canadians in the NHL than Americans but I definitely wouldnt say only a “few NHL players are American”[/quote]

Last I checked 1/5 is a minority. If you read the posts, the guy was talking about the talent pool for hockey estimating using only Americans. When in fact the talent pool, by your own admission would actually be about 5 times larger than that. The scenario was American players versus players originally from outside the US. In that case Americans are a vast minority.[/quote]

I did read your post and I even quoted it. I’ll agree that 1/5 is the minority but that doesnt mean that “few NHL players are American”. Other than Canadians, Americans make up the next largest Nationality in the whole league… but I know what you were saying. I guess I’m nit picking a bit

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I can’t believe this BS is coming up again. How the fuck do you have an across the board definition of “overall fitness”? Fitness for WHAT? Define fit, then we can go from there. Until there is a definition of that word that we all agree on, you can’t compare a strongman competitor to an ironman. They would suck big monkey-tits at each other’s sports. [/quote]

This is what I said…FTW!

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I’m not discounting football at all. Those dudes take a savage beating week after week and display a shit ton of athletic ability. But, I don’t think you understand how fast the NBA game is. These dudes have to sprint a couple of miles a game. Then you have to add in ball handling, defenders pulling on you and your jersey, shooting, etc… Watch someone run full speed while dribbling, then stop on a dime, spin past the defender, plant and explode to dunk on someone else and tell me the level of fitness and athleticsm can be matched by anyother sport. Maybe some of y’all will never agree with me, and that’s fine. But, basketball players are by far the most fit and athletic of all sports, and to me that cannot be argued.[/quote]

I was fortunate to be able to go to game 3 of the Finals this year, and watching that game live really showed me how athletic those guys are- no argument from me there. I think I am one of those that wont agree with you haha, but for the record, I am with you that NBA players are some of most athletics humans on this planet. I just can’t really single one sport out and say it produces the best athletes.

Chess Boxing

Nuff said!

Seriously can people stop saying Crossfit is a sport. Can we all agree to put a permanent end to that. Crossfit is a mode of training, it is not a sport. If you use your “sport” as a training method to inmprove your performance in a another sport, then it has to be viewed slightly inferior to others. Running, swimming, olympic lifting, powerlifting, yoga, pilates, strongman, biking are all great exercises and can obviously be competitive, but are also very specific in their demands and the adaptations they produce. A true “sport” combines and test all physical traits.

  1. Decathalete
  2. Pugalistic Athletes(boxing/muay thai/kickboxing)
  3. Grapplers(adcc competitors/wrestlers)
  4. Gymnasts
  5. Rugby Leaguers
  6. Hockey Players
  7. Rugby Union
  8. Basketball Players
  9. Baseball Outfielders
    10.Lacrosse/Field Hockey

Honorable mention: Association Football, American Football, Australian Rules Football, Crew, Raquet Sports

obviously I’m biased towards rugby but if need be you could replace ARL for union

Sport: an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition. IMHO crossfit is a new sport, they have started crowning champions through annual competition.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Sport: an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition. IMHO crossfit is a new sport, they have started crowning champions through annual competition.[/quote]

Are you really trying to compare what Crossfit “athletes” do to what professional football, basketball, baseball, hockey, etc. players do. What athlete skill do crossfitter display other than being in shape or “fit”. On average they seem to be below average in strength and power, extremely high in stamina, and show a poor ability to think for themselves. BTW there is also an annual hot dog eating contest on ESPN, along with the World Series of Poker, and a spelling bee…are they sports also?

[quote]Crow wrote:
Seriously can people stop saying Crossfit is a sport. Can we all agree to put a permanent end to that. Crossfit is a mode of training, it is not a sport. If you use your “sport” as a training method to inmprove your performance in a another sport, then it has to be viewed slightly inferior to others. Running, swimming, olympic lifting, powerlifting, yoga, pilates, strongman, biking are all great exercises and can obviously be competitive, but are also very specific in their demands and the adaptations they produce. A true “sport” combines and test all physical traits. [/quote]

If you can compete in it, it is a sport. Unless you are one of those fascist who only thinks that sports that resemble war are real sports.

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Sport: an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition. IMHO crossfit is a new sport, they have started crowning champions through annual competition.[/quote]

Poker FTW! Nothing like sitting at a table for 16 hours betting hundreds of dollars and coming off broke or with everyone’s mortgage.

No I dont consider those competitions a sport, because they dont require a physical exertion. IMO an NFL skilled position athlete could, with a little training, do very well in a crossfit comp. Also, I believe it would take the other (bad ass sports, that have great athletes) a lot longer traing programs to do well in a crossfit comp. Although, crossfitters might not be the strongest in the group, I think they have more upper body strength compared to NBA, NHL. What is your list? I might have missed it.

[quote]Crow wrote:
Seriously can people stop saying Crossfit is a sport. Can we all agree to put a permanent end to that. Crossfit is a mode of training, it is not a sport. If you use your “sport” as a training method to inmprove your performance in a another sport, then it has to be viewed slightly inferior to others. Running, swimming, olympic lifting, powerlifting, yoga, pilates, strongman, biking are all great exercises and can obviously be competitive, but are also very specific in their demands and the adaptations they produce. A true “sport” combines and test all physical traits. [/quote]

crossfit in and of itself isnt a sport. The crossfit gyms around the country arent full of elite atheletes. What is being referenced was the Crossfit Games… The guys competing and doing well in the games (had to qualify for them) are definitely athletes and as much as I dislike most crossfitters and their cult like mentality, it is a “sport” as much as a strongman competition is a sport.

Does that make sense?

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Although, crossfitters might not be the strongest in the group, I think they have more upper body strength compared to NBA, NHL.[/quote]

are you speaking about the amount of muscle endurance they have? (like for rope climbs and pull ups) because I’m sure there are some NHL and NBA guy who can press some strong numbers (I remember seeing a video of dwight howard who is 7 feet tall with monkey arms repping out 315 like it was a warm up)

You just cant compare different types of strength like that. Of course crossfitters will be better at climbing a rope cause when would an NHL player ever have to hop off the ice and climb up a 30 foot rope? So they probably dont train that lol