and the illuminati
Yea, I’m a favorite sheepish asshole!!
Facts, right. I saw “it’s been suspected but never PROVEN” in there.
Take some loose facts, toss in some innuendo for binder and come up with total bullshit. That crap you posted doesn’t PROVE anything.
Has Lumpy been reincarnated under a new name?
To those of you bashing Sonny…why don’t you research on your own and then post facts backing you up instead of bashing him and calling him a lunatic.
I am studying Saudi Arabia and these statements are in fact true.
And to you Bush supporters, especially those who support the facist war in Iraq, can you really claim that we didn’t go into Iraq because of direct interests of the Bush administration?
George Bush sr. is a financer of the Carlyle Group, a multi-billion dollar equity firm with ties to oil, Condaleeza Rice our NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR was a member of the board of directors for the Chevron Corporation, and Cheney our VP was CEO of Halliburton! Can you tell me that these people don’t still have close ties with oil?
These people have profited directly from this war, and have sacrificed innocent American blood for it.
Very Patriotic of you Republicans,
boo
To everybody out there…this is important public knowledge as well, but God knows that Fox News would never tell you.
After 9/11, the Saudis were sued by the 9/11 victims’ families. After all 15/19 of the hijackers were Saudi and Saudi Arabia breeds terrorists like Texas breeds cattle. Well who happened to represent the Saudis in court?
Baker-Botts Law firm headed by none other than James Baker himself. For those of you with short term memory, James Baker was Secretary of State to Bush Sr. The ties are deeper then you guys might imagine. Why don’t you research it on your own? If you put a little effort you might see that us liberals aren’t so crazy as you imagine.
boo
Sonny S is Lumpy under liberal alien control. Got to love those anal probes!
Hey don’t pull me on your side. Halliburton may be my future employer. And damnit they pay well, and nobody else would have a clue what to do if they were allowed over there.
Tigerboo,
If you want the world to think that the US went to war over oil, then that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. Keep in mind however, that there are always business ties in politics. Your boy Clinton took big money from the Loral Corporation and his buddy Bernie Schwartz so the Loral got to provide satellite technology to China. Brother Bill still gets handsome sums to do corporate speeches to many of the former campaign shills. By the way Loral delivered China with the technology to guide missles that can hit the US. That’s just the tip of the iceberg with your little favorites. So before you espouse nonsense, consider that this town is a big machine with a lot of forces in play. Don’t think you’re any cleaner.
so how much is your soul worth again?
“Stole” is such an inaccurate thing to say. The elections have always been based on the number of electorates, not the popular vote. It just so happend that this was the first time someone won without winning the popular vote. Get over it.
Democrats always want to change the rules after the game has already been played. Another example of this is in Kerry’s home state of Mass. At present, the democrats want to change the law which states that if elected President, Kerry’s vacant senate seat will be filled by an appointee of the Govenor (who is a Republican). They are trying to pass an amendment in Mass. that would let the state vote on a new senator. This is so lame.
I didn’t vote for Clinton and yes business is ALWAYS attatched to politics, but Clinton didn’t PROFIT from his friend’s bid. Bush on the other hand has directly profited from this adventure in Iraq. Please tell me you can tell the difference.
boo
I can’t believe I’m responding to a dumbass post like this. Looks like someone still has some sand in his pussy from the last election. Why the hell isn’t Gore running again if the lelction was stolen from him??? Maybe he lost fair and square.
Tigerboo -
Funny, a Facist war in Iraq to stop an asshole that has murdered millions. Also, I was in that war, and by you calling the war effort Facist, your calling me a Facist, you asshole. Maybe we should throw a rifle in your fucking hands and send your ass over there to see how happy those people were to see us taking care of business. Or are you too much of a pussy? Maybe getting Saddam out of power maybe, just maybe prevented something from happening to the U.S. down the road. As you probably know, WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO TAKE THOSE CHANCES.
When in doubt, flip it to burst.
I like the audio clip of Albore screeching at the top of his lungs how GW “betrayed” this country! What a mornon! Democrats…we are BLESSED that this lunatic lost the election!
And if the election was stolen…how come after the final results…Albore and Schlickmeister Bill got in an argument in which Albore compliained about how Bill/Lewinsky cost Albore the election???..duh…get a clue!
All I have to say is this: Just because I know or am related to somebody doesn’t mean I share their beliefs… so what if bush knows the bin ladens… maybe not all of them are bad guys… have you never heard of a ‘black sheep’?
I will never defend bush… I think the man is a raging idiot (and no, his name doesn’t deserve capitalizing) But I think most politicians deserve to be shot… not dead… but in the knee or the nutsack so they can’t reproduce or something.
Anyways the point was this, if my friend does something bad, I am not guilty by association. To be guilty I have to do the deed (or take part in some way) myself.
Funny, a Facist war in Iraq to stop an asshole that has murdered millions.
I hope you don’t base your argument on anger because if you re-read my post, it is in response to the Bush administration’s deceptive tactics of using US soldiers blood in order to get profit. The reason I don’t buy the reason for war being that he is a murderer is because we support hundreds of murderous regimes all over the world even until this day. Real threats to our security our often ignored such as North Korea who tested its missle capabilities in Alaska.
Also, I was in that war, and by you calling the war effort Facist, your calling me a Facist, you asshole.
I’m not calling you a facist. I’m calling this administration facist for making a false case for war in order to personally profit.
Maybe we should throw a rifle in your fucking hands and send your ass over there to see how happy those people were to see us taking care of business. Or are you too much of a pussy? Maybe getting Saddam out of power maybe, just maybe prevented something from happening to the U.S. down the road. As you probably know, WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO TAKE THOSE CHANCES.
Iraq was no threat to the US. They weren’t even a threat to Israel. Israel came out this week with a government report that blasted the Mossad saying that they were wrong about Iraq’s threat.
The question I pose for you is why have we gone after THIS country? Personal bias? Oil and profit? Both probably. But if we really want to make ourselves safer we should do something about Saudi Arabia. Wahabbism is a basically the nurturing grounds for militant Islam which has its roots in Saudi Arabia. 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi and the future terrorists will be Saudi.
Don’t buy into the garbage they feed you. The US is less safe because of our war in Iraq, both now and in the future.
Don’t be angry at me…Just remember that Bush’s paycheck was paid in our blood.
boo
Obviously, you have done your homework on this subject, but I still don’t know how you get your personal opinions about this issue. How is Bush a murderer? What other murderous regimes are we currently supporting? And if we DID go to war with Iraq for oil, why are the prices skyrocketing? Why are the gas prices supposed to go to record highs this summer?? How can we expect the Iraqi economy to improve if we capitalize on their oil? The truth is we did NOT go there for oil. I’ll agree, many politicians are “corrupt” but you will find that in any government. But believe me, Bush is not the kind of asshole that would risk the lives of his troops for just some cheap gas prices. And with regards to North Korea, there is a little thing called M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction) that acts as a deterrent for two nuclear powers going to war. So yeah, with the interest of preventing billions of lives lost and the possibility of WWIII starting, we aren’t gonna touch North Korea. Also, it’s true that the majority of the suicide bombers and terrorists are from Saudi Arabia, but the Saudi gov’t is very active in hunting terrorists.
When 9/11 happened, President Bush made a speech that rallied the nation and got everyone’s patriotic spirits up. In this speech, he said that we will hunt terrorists wherever they may be. He also said that countries (governments) that support terrorists will meet the same fate as the terrorists. It is know that Saddam supported terrorists. Why wouldn’t he, he hates us, right??? Of course. Now he is doing what he promised in his speech. He’s fucking anyone up who supports these assholes. What did the public expect, him to not do what he promised?? He’s keeping his word. Anyways, it doesn’t matter. Guys like me and others in the armed forces will continue to fight for you whether you like it or not.
When in doubt, flip it to burst.
Tigerboo -
P.S.
No, you didn’t pay for shit with YOUR blood.
Don’t really want much to do with this post, but I do wish to respond to my “moderate” friend, Moisture:
“If George W. Bush “stole” the election from Gore, why isn’t Gore running this time? Why is he ducking the rematch?”
Why WOULD he run if the election was stolen?
Ducking the rematch? This isn’t wrestling.
Gore won the popular vote - bottem line.
There was certainly things that went on in FL that got swept under the rug - the butterfly ballots that the older folks in Palm Beach couldn’t read, the missing ballot boxes in Broward (Dem) and Dade (Rep and Dem) counties, the reports of black voters being turned away or disuaded from voting, and the Scalia connection in the Supreme Court rulings. The fishiness began on day one.