Old man lifts the cloud and you’ll be witness to it!
@Brant_Drake
The boomer generation made the mistake that lifting was bad. Who do you think told them that…..,I know, those pesky politicians controlling the media but they were not smart enough to experiment.
Boomer = my knees hurt so I just sit all day.
That’s that guy in that cartoon pal.
I didn’t say anything about boomers.
Abe fought in WWII, so he’s not a boomer.
It started with them though, they are the ones who came home from the war and bought TVs to warp the boomer mind.
Complaining about the effect new forms of media have on the youth is not a new thing.
Television (1950s)
"The TV set is becoming a third parent… [children] sit frozen in front of the screen, losing the habit of active play and the use of their own imaginations."
— Joost Meerloo, The Rape of the Mind (1956)
Radio (1930s)
"Parents have become aware of a puzzling change in their children… they sit around the radio for hours, absorbed in thriller stories, developing a ‘radio-habit’ that replaces healthy outdoor activity."
— Gramophone magazine editorial (1930s)
The Novel (1700s–1800s)
"The free access which many young people have to romances and novels is a grievance of no small magnitude… it produces a love of adventure and a spirit of dissipation."
— The Reverend Enos Hitchcock (1790)
The Printing Press (1400s–1500s)
"The abundance of books makes men less studious; it destroys memory and enfeebles the mind by relieving it of the discipline of learning by heart."
— Hieronimo Squarciafico (1477)
The Written Word (Ancient Greece)
"This discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves."
— Socrates (as recorded by Plato in Phaedrus, c. 370 BCE)
That one was fun. Thanks for taking the time to post that. 
I think most of us realize how dumb we were at that age as we get older. Societal pressures work much better on an 18yr old than they do on a 40yr old. My first presidential election, I voted for John Kerry. I am so embarrassed to say that. But, I was a dumbass, as most are at 18. I’d be for raising the voting age to 26.
What was the life expectancy of someone living in the time of the Declaration of Independence?
Comparing apples to oranges; typical lazy “intellectualism”.
If they survived childhood, 60s and 70s.
Is your back ok? I’m just worried after all those mental gymnastics you had to do to get to that as relevant.
Your forte, not mine.
You could argue that economic pressures work better on a 40 year old to maintain a system, even if it’s crappy.
I know it does on me.
No, voting should be done by the people it will affect for longer periods of time. Now I’d be for capping it at a certain age, because those policies won’t matter to them when they’re dead.
Mental gymnastics…
Right on schedule. The irony.
I just do it better than you.
“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
You’re the only one who randomly tried to shoehorn this conversation into your usual tired talking points.
Your problem is you’re a legend in your own mind.
Look, there’s a shiny new talking point in Reddit.
And of course thru history the powers try to only allow specific content to reach the people on these tools so they can remain dumb.
It’s not necessarily the tools, it’s the limited content.
I could get behind that. Why not both? Start at 26, end at 75? But then again, by that logic elected officials would be held to the same standard. Can’t hold office until you’re 26, and have to be out after you turn 75.
We already do it. Can’t run for president until you’re 35. Why?
I’ve wondered if a tiered system might work, especially to create a constant base of politically involved young people. Like, you can vote in local elections at 16, state elections at 18, and federal elections at 21.
Although if you can get drafted without voting nationally, that’s something that needs to be addressed.
Imagine having a young person who can live off Mac and cheese and Ramon (Aye Oh See 5years ago) controlling how an old person should live…………
My point is I’m not big on all your “change” stuff. Chit ain’t fair and it never will be because I know how people are but I’m concerned about how the old are, to me that says a lot. If we live in a place where a lot of people are able to do well at age 85, I’m down. To me that is most important, being young is being invincible and that’s how I felt being young. I never got upset for an older person having anything which a lot of these kids are doing now. There is a pure hatred for the boomers and today’s youth. I don’t like many boomers but I’m still down for a system that shows older folks can be mostly well off.
Cool post.
I struggled through about half of The Illiad a couple years ago and couldn’t keep up with all the names, ships and places of origin.
Its crazy that the Greeks used to just remember and recite that stuff beforevthey had writting.
I had to speed read “History of The Peloponnesian War” for a masters class once, and it was incredibly painful for just that reason.