Labs pre trt
TT 400
FT 8.5
E2 <12
I had 560 total but my free test the first time in march was 6.8 and in April 9.8 , E2 low 40ās. I recently lost alot of weight and changed diet and wondered if I didnt give myself enough time to see where things ended up. But we have similar FT levels.
Tomorrow will be the end of the 3 week mark. Overall not feeling terrible, a bit of brainfog, sleeping good, erections good, definitely more tired again at night around 8-9pm, on trt didnt really feel tired at night anymore. Daytime energy i feel fine.
Does anyone think im starting to produce on my own again? Is the worst of it over? Kinda wish i did bloodwork this past week to see where im at.
End of 3rd week beginning of 4th week today, woke up with a crazy amount of energy, interfered with my sleep actually, feel extremely alert. Wood while i slept but nada when awakening.
Feeling extremely alert. Sounds like the beginnings of low estrogen.
Youāre not out of the woods yet.
I dont feel alert when my estrogen is low, i remember the day i had a reading of 8, below normal, was very irritable. I feel 100% normal today like pre trt. First time i felt like this since April
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What sucks in your case for us here is we canāt compare a good run of solo T instead of HCG while on TRT run.
I also took enclophimene starting at day 12 post injection ā¦ the first 3 capsules were every day, the last 2 was eod and I havent taken one since wednesday. Itās strong shit and 1 dose carries effects lasting 10 days even though it has a 12hr half-life, so I will probably take 2 capsules per week at most. It does increase estrogen so to what extent it does with me I dont know but Iāll use it sparingly the next 2-3 weeks.
First time in the gym in 10 days, felt awesome. Strength is the same, focus is better than on trt, drive is better than on trt.
Something I didnāt mention earlier, day 16-17 while at work, I have arms above head alot with tools working, was extremely fatigued in shoulders very fast. These days was just after the extremely fatigued when I needed to take random naps and felt as if I couldnt keep my eyes open. Days 13-17 was this time frame, days 13-19 post injection while I may had a good day one of them, my cognitive function was lacking, hard to concentrate,. Got better yesterday, and today seems resolved and back to normal.
if i ever took t again it wouldnt be without hcgā¦ I wouldnāt say what I experienced is terrible but it wasnāt great this past week.
Also note, weight is back to pre TRT levels 174ishā¦ Was as much as 186 on TRT but hovered around 180-182.
I am going to order some pregnyl and give it a shot with my T.
Try it out, TBH that is like the perfect way to come off TRTā¦ Get the balls primed and readyā¦
Funny thing you mention about the cognition. Dont know if its placebo, but im now on 3d week of trt and only hcg and clomid. I have lowerwd dose of clomid to 12.4mg eod, anxiety got better maybe its the clomid.
Siddently it feels like i recall stuff a bit better and feel somehow smarter. Also ive picked up interest in reading wich i havent really felt for last 3 years on tā¦
Maybe its the hcg, after we get pregnant i will add low dose hcg to trt regiment.
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Wow!
Why are you on both clomid and hcg? they kinda do the same thing and I would think the hcg cancels out the clomid since hcg is acting as LH and clomid is supposed to stimulate that but it cant because hcg is supressing it. Why not enclophimene BTW?
Interesting though, T definitely makes me more dumbā¦ LOLā¦ Most jocks arent the sharpest knives in the draw but I bet none have low Tā¦
Day 22ā¦ More of the sameā¦ not bad, a little downā¦ But mentally ok. Mostly thinking of my ex wife.
Also taking ZMA before bedā¦ Vitamin D and B12 in the morning as well as good ole flameout fish oil.
The pain in my shoulder area gotten better since off TRTā¦ Thats very strange, and was hindering my workouts.
Day 23 seem good. Best night of sleep yet, concentration and focus is good. Mood is decent. Low desire for woman in general.
Just ordered some pregnyl. I seem to be doing good with T lately. Really well compared to other periods.
Want to try and see if pregnyl pushes it to the next level. Want to get my balls and loads bigger again. Also itās feels numb down there at times, which I hear HCG tends to help people āfeel itā again.
Im following a spermatogenesis protocol for post trt people/steroid users who wants to get fertile.
Suggest 3 months of hcg and clomid in combination, can se if i find the source. Dont really know how it works but hcg mimics lh and a little bit fsh. Clomid blocks estrogen wich makes the body produce fsh and also lh to make testocles leyding cells and sertoli cells to produce testosterone and speem.
Youll notice a difference give it 1-2 weeks. Also ive read you can use pregnyl past the 60 day mark after making it, might lose a little potency but I wouldnāt throw it out at the 60 day mark.
Im happy im pretty much back to normal. Stopping the enclomiphene until i get labs done in 2 weeks to see what is what.
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First time in 3 months a beer made me feel good and not like garbageā¦ Im back!! lol
Another day feeling A-OKā¦ this will be my last post in thread unless anything changes. DAY 24.