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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

I’m not really obsessed with viewing everything through a racial prism and examining everything in terms of heritage, skin color, culture, etc.

I think successful people share a lot of things in common that have nothing to do with any of that…which is why I wonder why people like C-dog are convinced the entire world is skewed in favor of minorities and must point out all the injustices against white people all the time.

Maybe I’ve just learned to overcome all the difficulties that stand in my way as a white male :)[/quote]

Your so full of shit and one of the biggest wastes of time on this forum.

It doesn’t matter. These race issues will touch you the same as it touches us all and only when you’re much older than I am will start to give a rat’s ass about anything but pleasing your self-indulgence.

Self love = self-obsessed. And you are self obsessed.
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So your rebuttal is blind rage, personal attacks, and crying?

Guess black people stole your testicles as well!

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[quote]H factor wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:

I’m not really obsessed with viewing everything through a racial prism and examining everything in terms of heritage, skin color, culture, etc.

…which is why I wonder why people like C-dog are convinced the entire world is skewed in favor of minorities and must point out all the injustices against white people all the time.

Maybe I’ve just learned to overcome all the difficulties that stand in my way as a white male :)[/quote]

Your so full of shit and one of the biggest wastes of time on this forum.

It doesn’t matter. These race issues will touch you the same as it touches us all and only when you’re much older than I am will start to give a rat’s ass about anything but pleasing your self-indulgence.

Self love = self-obsessed. And you are self obsessed.
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So your rebuttal is blind rage, personal attacks, and crying?

Guess black people stole your testicles as well! [/quote]

If you and zecarlo would quit talking while I’m talking we could have a conversation.

Nothing I say is noted or is there any attempt to refute my perspective. Both of you respond irrationally without any point by point debate.

zecarlo contemplates that he was ignorant of homosexuality as a kid, so therefore everyone was.

When I say kid, I was in seventh grade when a friend was molested by the guy at his barbershop.

The guy locked the barber door and pulled shades when he came in for haircut. Gave my friend some adult magazines to look at and asked if he wanted some beer. The barber also grabbed his crotch and asked if he liked the way that felt.

My friend kept his head realizing what was happening and when the barber went in back to get beer he unlocked the door and bolted. He told all of us about it. Had another neighbor on our street who was a senior and acted gay as shit. He played football with us once and wouldn’t get off several of us when he tackled. Fuckin hunching on smaller kids.

You may like that fuck, I don’t. I’m not sticking around to play psychologist so I can learn to accept WHY those two gays acted in that fashion.

I’d knock the fuck out of them today if I ran into them. Evidently you have a different approach and I hope your children never fall into the hand of that sort of creature.

Of course you aren’t hearing any of this, same as all my responses because you are to busy thinking how you will attack my pov.

My house was broken into by a black man that ran through putting items like answering machine, my wife’s purse in our son’s baby bag. The dude kicked our back door in while we were home. He was caught a week later jumping off another homes second story balcony. He had broken into about seven homes when he was caught and identified.

We had our car’s t-tops as well as four stereos stolen over a two year period. Car had about nine inch long hand print on windows. Not too many white guys have that large of a hand. Police said they only did fingerprints in murder cases. No wonder most crimes are rarely solved.

In the park while my wife was pushing our two year old on swing set, some black woman ran off with son’s $150 stroller.

We were friends with a neighbor (black woman) two doors down and even watched her same age son on occasion when she couldn’t get family to help her. Her baby’s daddy let his brother stay with them two nights. She said that the man’s brother got him drunk and hit him on the head leaving him to bleed in the alley then went in and stole the very few things of value they owned.

I decided I didn’t want to live within walking distance of blacks any longer. Does that mean I BELIEVE every black in the neighborhood was a criminal? Even though it seemed that way, NO I DIDN’T BELIEVE that.

Did I hate blacks? NO. That was the year I paid for tickets to see the movie The Color Purple.

There was a high crime rate and a good number of our white neighbors had been victimized. No one really talked about the fact that black men appeared to be preying on whites.

I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t worth waiting to see if this would continue and didn’t want to raise our children in that neighborhood under the guise of acting like a NON RACIST (which I believe is the guilt trip reason so many white liberals fight any painting of the black community as different than others) so we moved.

I’m sure others did too. But we were never portrayed as victims, we’re still depicted as the RACISTS in the big picture. That’s the joke here. Am I obsessed with this? No but it does influence my political stance. Am I more diplomatic in person? Somewhat.

Paint me as racist all you like. Evoke hatred and try to brace your political view. It doesn’t mean anything to me other than you are ignorant and naive. There are few intellectuals on the left and they all seem to blather on about the country’s past sins.

Not asking for you to forget them, just stop attacking as if they still affect today.

If the black community is such hallowed ground why do so many of the rich, successful black men take white women as wives and girlfriends? Why do they move far from those black neighborhoods?

Because they aren’t ignorant and naive. They don’t have liberal white guilt either.

Whether or not you agree, clearly what they are thinking is different than what you are defending.

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Every crime I’ve ever had committed against me was done by a white man c-dog. Why is that? Because I’ve largely lived around white people my entire life.

Am I stupid enough to think all white people are criminals? No.

Am I stupid enough to think that the actions of a few dictate the actions of a majority of people? No.

Have I come to the conclusions that white men are out to get me? No.

Do I think blacks have no criminals because none have ever done one to me? No.

Did you live in a neighborhood with black criminal assholes? Yes. Were you living in a shitty area? It certainly sounds like it. Did you jump to a conclusion that a crime committed against you was a black person? (the hands one) Yes. Could it have been? Sure. One of my best friends is white, 6’11 and has massive hands. Yes, white people can have massive hands as well!

Were you a victim? Of course. No one with ANY sense would argue different.

Are you as a white man consistently targeted by black people? Of course not.

Have blacks committed crimes against people because they are white? Yes.

Have whites committed crimes against people because they are black? Yes.

Is it weird for you to want people to get over the country’s past sins when you can’t get over your fellow man’s past sins? Yes.

Does race dominant the majority of your posts and discussion on here? Yes.

Does the “left” need to get over race? Apparently about as much as you do.

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[quote]H factor wrote:
Every crime I’ve ever had committed against me was done by a white man c-dog. Why is that? Because I’ve largely lived around white people my entire life.

Am I stupid enough to think all white people are criminals? No.

Am I stupid enough to think that the actions of a few dictate the actions of a majority of people? No.

Have I come to the conclusions that white men are out to get me? No.

Do I think blacks have no criminals because none have ever done one to me? No.

Did you live in a neighborhood with black criminal assholes? Yes. Were you living in a shitty area? It certainly sounds like it. Did you jump to a conclusion that a crime committed against you was a black person? (the hands one) Yes. Could it have been? Sure. One of my best friends is white, 6’11 and has massive hands. Yes, white people can have massive hands as well!

Were you a victim? Of course. No one with ANY sense would argue different.

Are you as a white man consistently targeted by black people? Of course not.

Have blacks committed crimes against people because they are white? Yes.

Have whites committed crimes against people because they are black? Yes.

Is it weird for you to want people to get over the country’s past sins when you can’t get over your fellow man’s past sins? Yes.

Does race dominant the majority of your posts and discussion on here? Yes.

Does the “left” need to get over race? Apparently about as much as you do. [/quote]

Gee how stupid of me to think I could persuade a liberal of one thing. And I have already answered the questions you posed.

Yeah and because we were broken in to, I lived in the shitty neighborhood?? next door was an emergency room doctor and across the street one of our state representatives. A doctor lives in our old house currently. The city mayor lived around the block. Muhammad Ali was married there in the mayor’s house.

A major university six blocks away.

I lived around a lot of white people, but they weren’t the ones committing the break-ins and assaults we watched on the news nightly.

You write “Does race dominant the majority of your posts and discussion on here? Yes.”

…Well they don’t, if you care to look at my history they make up a very small percentage of the 1049 posts. You and zecarlo have stated no correct facts in any of your retorts. zecarlo misquotes what I write and you lazily make shit up.

Besides being lazy you didn’t touch my last two sentences. I think you are cowardly in your debate because you don’t take on the meat of what I write. Stick a fork in it I’m done here.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

When I say kid, I was in seventh grade when a friend was molested by the guy at his barbershop.

The guy locked the barber door and pulled shades when he came in for haircut. Gave my friend some adult magazines to look at and asked if he wanted some beer. The barber also grabbed his crotch and asked if he liked the way that felt.

My friend kept his head realizing what was happening and when the barber went in back to get beer he unlocked the door and bolted. He told all of us about it. Had another neighbor on our street who was a senior and acted gay as shit. He played football with us once and wouldn’t get off several of us when he tackled. Fuckin hunching on smaller kids.

You may like that fuck, I don’t. I’m not sticking around to play psychologist so I can learn to accept WHY those two gays acted in that fashion.

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“Let’s talk about the morality or immorality of homosexuality. Here’s a story about a couple of pederasts that assaulted my ‘friends.’” This may be the most obvious and most explicit instance of logical fallacy in the history of this forum.

I assume that if I start a thread about the morality or immorality of heterosexuality, you won’t mind my opening salvo being a big diatribe on Fred West. Yeah?

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You aren’t done here. You will be back making new threads about how rough your life has been and unfair because you happen to be white. You will talk about liberals all day long and the double standard while doing exactly what you proclaim annoys you about them. You may have some reasons to be a bitter old racist, but it doesn’t change the fact you are one. Don’t get mad at people for pointing out that fact.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]H factor wrote:
Every crime I’ve ever had committed against me was done by a white man c-dog. Why is that? Because I’ve largely lived around white people my entire life.

Am I stupid enough to think all white people are criminals? No.

Am I stupid enough to think that the actions of a few dictate the actions of a majority of people? No.

Have I come to the conclusions that white men are out to get me? No.

Do I think blacks have no criminals because none have ever done one to me? No.

Did you live in a neighborhood with black criminal assholes? Yes. Were you living in a shitty area? It certainly sounds like it. Did you jump to a conclusion that a crime committed against you was a black person? (the hands one) Yes. Could it have been? Sure. One of my best friends is white, 6’11 and has massive hands. Yes, white people can have massive hands as well!

Were you a victim? Of course. No one with ANY sense would argue different.

Are you as a white man consistently targeted by black people? Of course not.

Have blacks committed crimes against people because they are white? Yes.

Have whites committed crimes against people because they are black? Yes.

Is it weird for you to want people to get over the country’s past sins when you can’t get over your fellow man’s past sins? Yes.

Does race dominant the majority of your posts and discussion on here? Yes.

Does the “left” need to get over race? Apparently about as much as you do. [/quote]

Gee how stupid of me to think I could persuade a liberal of one thing. And I have already answered the questions you posed.

Yeah and because we were broken in to, I lived in the shitty neighborhood?? next door was an emergency room doctor and across the street one of our state representatives. A doctor lives in our old house currently. The city mayor lived around the block. Muhammad Ali was married there in the mayor’s house.

A major university six blocks away.

I lived around a lot of white people, but they weren’t the ones committing the break-ins and assaults we watched on the news nightly.

You write “Does race dominant the majority of your posts and discussion on here? Yes.”

…Well they don’t, if you care to look at my history they make up a very small percentage of the 1049 posts. You and zecarlo have stated no correct facts in any of your retorts. zecarlo misquotes what I write and you lazily make shit up.

Besides being lazy you didn’t touch my last two sentences. I think you are cowardly in your debate because you don’t take on the meat of what I write. Stick a fork in it I’m done here.
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I’m surprised you didn’t say skimwitted.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:
Why do they move far from those black neighborhoods?

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Why did so many white, Europeans from white neighborhoods leave those white neighborhoods and come to America? Why is it, once they became established here, they moved out of their original American neighborhoods for more affluent neighborhoods?

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Anthony Johnson, the first slave owner in North America

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:
Why do they move far from those black neighborhoods?

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Why did so many white, Europeans from white neighborhoods leave those white neighborhoods and come to America? Why is it, once they became established here, they moved out of their original American neighborhoods for more affluent neighborhoods? [/quote]

Perhaps for the same reason that many black slaves, upon being freed, became planters and owned black slaves of their own. Maybe it’s not about race, but about economics, class and status.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Perhaps for the same reason that many black slaves, upon being freed, became planters and owned black slaves of their own. Maybe it’s not about race, but about economics, class and status. [/quote]
But that doesn’t fit the race baiting narrative. They like it simple: Blacks are criminals.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

When I say kid, I was in seventh grade when a friend was molested by the guy at his barbershop.

The guy locked the barber door and pulled shades when he came in for haircut. Gave my friend some adult magazines to look at and asked if he wanted some beer. The barber also grabbed his crotch and asked if he liked the way that felt.

My friend kept his head realizing what was happening and when the barber went in back to get beer he unlocked the door and bolted. He told all of us about it. Had another neighbor on our street who was a senior and acted gay as shit. He played football with us once and wouldn’t get off several of us when he tackled. Fuckin hunching on smaller kids.

You may like that fuck, I don’t. I’m not sticking around to play psychologist so I can learn to accept WHY those two gays acted in that fashion.

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“Let’s talk about the morality or immorality of homosexuality. Here’s a story about a couple of pederasts that assaulted my ‘friends.’” This may be the most obvious and most explicit instance of logical fallacy in the history of this forum.

I assume that if I start a thread about the morality or immorality of heterosexuality, you won’t mind my opening salvo being a big diatribe on Fred West. Yeah?[/quote]

I’m coming back this once only to answer my old chum smh. You can look up my friend list, he is one of only six that I have reached out to.

The assault on my friend story has less to do with morality than it does beating down zecaro’s ignorant rebuttal to something I NEVER wrote.

If you start from this topics beginning you will ascertain that zecaro makes a habit of replying to something that isn’t in my writings. In this instance he replied to my statement:

conservativedog wrote:
What I said was “When I was a kid homosexuality was considered deviant. Now it’s celebrated. Every show has a homosexual.”

zecaro replies:
When I was a kid I didn’t know how homosexuality was considered. I didn’t even know what it was. It wasn’t part of the conversation at the dinner table. Hate wasn’t part of the conversation either.

In other words zecarlo contemplates that he was ignorant of homosexuality as a kid, so therefore everyone was.

In a straightforward manor I attempted to display that my family didn’t sit around the dinner table discussing homos and hate as he tried to imply we did. Instead I shared where homosexuality first crossed my path as a “kid.” It wasn’t my argument against homosexuality.

But this has all been said before, yet several of you choose to ignore it then write like the liberal communist dicks that you are.

Don’t debate what I actually write, then call me an “old racist.” What a strategy.

This “old racist” can put you on the ground any day of the week.

P.S.

Welcome back smh.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

When I say kid, I was in seventh grade when a friend was molested by the guy at his barbershop.

The guy locked the barber door and pulled shades when he came in for haircut. Gave my friend some adult magazines to look at and asked if he wanted some beer. The barber also grabbed his crotch and asked if he liked the way that felt.

My friend kept his head realizing what was happening and when the barber went in back to get beer he unlocked the door and bolted. He told all of us about it. Had another neighbor on our street who was a senior and acted gay as shit. He played football with us once and wouldn’t get off several of us when he tackled. Fuckin hunching on smaller kids.

You may like that fuck, I don’t. I’m not sticking around to play psychologist so I can learn to accept WHY those two gays acted in that fashion.

[/quote]

“Let’s talk about the morality or immorality of homosexuality. Here’s a story about a couple of pederasts that assaulted my ‘friends.’” This may be the most obvious and most explicit instance of logical fallacy in the history of this forum.

I assume that if I start a thread about the morality or immorality of heterosexuality, you won’t mind my opening salvo being a big diatribe on Fred West. Yeah?[/quote]

I’m coming back this once only to answer my old chum smh. You can look up my friend list, he is one of only six that I have reached out to.

The assault on my friend story has less to do with morality than it does beating down zecaro’s ignorant rebuttal to something I NEVER wrote.

If you start from this topics beginning you will ascertain that zecaro makes a habit of replying to something that isn’t in my writings. In this instance he replied to my statement:

conservativedog wrote:
What I said was “When I was a kid homosexuality was considered deviant. Now it’s celebrated. Every show has a homosexual.”

zecaro replies:
When I was a kid I didn’t know how homosexuality was considered. I didn’t even know what it was. It wasn’t part of the conversation at the dinner table. Hate wasn’t part of the conversation either.

In other words zecarlo contemplates that he was ignorant of homosexuality as a kid, so therefore everyone was.

In a straightforward manor I attempted to display that my family didn’t sit around the dinner table discussing homos and hate as he tried to imply we did. Instead I shared where homosexuality first crossed my path as a “kid.” It wasn’t my argument against homosexuality.

But this has all been said before, yet several of you choose to ignore it then write like the liberal communist dicks that you are.

Don’t debate what I actually write, then call me an “old racist.” What a strategy.

This “old racist” can put you on the ground any day of the week.

P.S.

Welcome back smh.
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Your problem, Mr. Overfiend, is that you don’t know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. Logic would dictate that if homosexuals are all pedophiles because of a same sex criminal act then all heterosexuals are pedophiles because of the many cases of sexual criminal acts perpetrated by heterosexuals on someone of the opposite sex. So the question is, why even bring it up? You have an icky feeling for gays because of a couple of incidents (that we all know you made up) but you are OK with heterosexuals because they have never done anything similar. All gay men are gross because of the actions of two of them with boys (assuming that these imaginary people were gay) but heterosexual men, who have been known to have done similar things with little girls, are all OK. Why do you hate little girls so much? You would think a nanny would love all kids…in an appropriate manner of course. The again, your posts not only betray your hate for blacks and gays but for women as well.

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LIBERALS, LIBERALS, LIBERALS, LIBERALS!

COMMUNISTS, COMMUNISTS, COMMUNISTS. It’s too bad this isn’t 1950 anymore c-dog, I think you’d fit in a lot more. Hating blacks and gays just isn’t as “in” as it used to be. I blame liberals. Although plenty of conservatives aren’t really down with that either. I guess they are communists.

And it’s the internet. You can’t put anyone here on the ground, this isn’t a bar fight. Though I don’t know why you’d hate me, I’m a straight (engaged even) white male.

Hopefully this doesn’t result in a bloody nose.

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[quote]H factor wrote:
And it’s the internet. You can’t put anyone here on the ground, this isn’t a bar fight. Though I don’t know why you’d hate me, I’m a straight (engaged even) white male.

Hopefully this doesn’t result in a bloody nose. [/quote]
Tread lightly. He was planning on entering the UFC at one point.

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Damn libs! We went from racist to hating homos…lets go to healthcare now. Now zecarlo be careful he might make you into a carlita.
On a sidenote vanqanir your post are always informative and great. Are you really that smart or do you just google things up?

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[quote]jre67t wrote:
Damn libs! We went from racist to hating homos…lets go to healthcare now. Now zecarlo be careful he might make you into a carlita.
On a sidenote vanqanir your post are always informative and great. Are you really that smart or do you just google things up?[/quote]
Before you get to healthcare you’ll need to stop at women and Jews first. They are also on Overfiend’s list.

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[quote]jre67t wrote:
Damn libs! We went from racist to hating homos…lets go to healthcare now. Now zecarlo be careful he might make you into a carlita.
On a sidenote vanqanir your post are always informative and great. Are you really that smart or do you just google things up?[/quote]

Yep, he really is that smart. Extremely well read too. I’m not sure if you were around when he was still active on the forums before his years’ long hiatus or not, but he’s been around for a while. Easily one of my favorite people to read responses from!

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]jre67t wrote:
Damn libs! We went from racist to hating homos…lets go to healthcare now. Now zecarlo be careful he might make you into a carlita.
On a sidenote vanqanir your post are always informative and great. Are you really that smart or do you just google things up?[/quote]

Yep, he really is that smart. Extremely well read too. I’m not sure if you were around when he was still active on the forums before his years’ long hiatus or not, but he’s been around for a while. Easily one of my favorite people to read responses from![/quote]

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