Thrown Out for Grunting

I"m with those who said if you dont like then just find another gym instead of complaining.

I own a gym and guess what - no grunting allowed.

Why? Because it intimidates others, including most women. Do I want to lose a sale due to some guy unable to train hard without making some big noises?

Yes one grunt or noise here or there is not the issue, it’s those that grunt/make noise the entire time - is it really necessary? No.

It’s my gym and I’d rather not lose sales for your one membership - simple as that…

Get a home gym and grunt all you like…

Do as I do.

Go in dressed in a Gorilla costume and you’ll be allowed to do all the grunting you like.

[quote]Avoids Roids wrote:
If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

If you want to grunt, join a grunt gym.

The owner sets the rules and posts them. If you don’t like the rules, you don’t join. Find a place that suits your desires and style.

If you have to smoke while flying, charter your own plane from someone who allows smoking. You just can’t do it on commercial flights.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.[/quote]

it wouls appear it was a “new rule”, maybe he joined first and then they changed the rules???

[quote]BGB wrote:
I"m with those who said if you dont like then just find another gym instead of complaining.

I own a gym and guess what - no grunting allowed.

Why? Because it intimidates others, including most women. Do I want to lose a sale due to some guy unable to train hard without making some big noises?

Yes one grunt or noise here or there is not the issue, it’s those that grunt/make noise the entire time - is it really necessary? No.

It’s my gym and I’d rather not lose sales for your one membership - simple as that…

Get a home gym and grunt all you like…[/quote]

no your a retard and i hope somebody smashes your ass with a barbell full of weight, then grunts over your crused wafer thin body.

[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
Grunting is a colossal waste of energy.[/quote]

your trippin, grunting is scientifically proven to help get those few extra pounds up.

I’ll wade into this somewhat reluctantly, mainly because I don’t post here that often anymore, but I have a bit to offer.

I happen to be a trainer at a Planet Fitness. We used to be a private facility, and took on the Franchise about 18 months ago. I cannot say that I would personally subscribe to all of their philosophies if I had the choice, but I can say that I understand and respect them across the board.

To explain a little: Planet Fitness is a chain that takes pride in not marketing itself to or really offering services that cater to serious lifters (myself included). To that end, we do not allow dumbbells over 60 or 80 pounds (location dependent), squat racks, deadlifting platforms, and plate-loaded equipment. In fact, some locations do not even have an Olympic bench press.

Grunting, screaming, dropping weights and the like are discouraged by various means. Signage is present in all locations, and most have what is called a lunk-alarm to hassle anyone who breaks the rules. You are informed of all of this when you sign up. If this is not what the member has in mind for their workout, it would be in the best interest of all parties that that person joined another gym.

All gyms have their niche, and Planet Fitness is no different. PF as a company provides a pretty valuable service in the fitness world: we market and cater to first time gym users and general fitness enthusiasts. If you want to train like a bodybuilder, without serious compromise to that type of training, you would be hard-pressed to do that at PF. Join a more hard-core gym.

QUICK SIDEBAR: Before anyone jumps on me calling me a wussy or a sellout or whatever for defending PF, I should say that my own club does have an oly bench press, DBs up to 60, and no squat rack, and I still get great workouts and results for my clients.

I deadlift after the gym is closed or before we open, I can still bench as heavy as I want, and there is no rule against strapping on weights for pullups or dips. I have an arrangement with another gym where I get to workout for free on my leg days and do squats and so forth, but that’s really the only thing that has changed.

I’m not going to bother qualifying my lifts or anything, but for those that remember me from either my posts or my articles here and elsewhere, you know I don’t fuck around.

On a related personal note, grunting and screaming isn’t necessary. If it helps you have better workouts, great. I’m not debating your right to do it, or making any judgements, but you just can’t do it at a PF. In terms of dropping weights…seriously. Grow up. If you’re strong enough to lift it, you’re strong enough to put it down. Don’t be a d-bag.

Since this person was told that before he signed up, he is clearly in breach of the agreement and management can handle him however they want.

In defense of the manager, PF has pretty much a zero tolerance policy, and the manager was just doing his job and maintaining corporate policy. Why risk getting in trouble by being “understanding” to accommodate someone who clearly does not respect him?

As the head trainer/manager at my location, I’ve had to throw people out. Never for grunting or screaming, but for other things. It sucks to have to do it, especially as someone who understands, but my job is my job.

END SIDE

To a greater or lesser degree, all fitness clubs are in business to make money, and Planet Fitness is no exception. We work on the principle of commoditization: low price, high volume.

Memberships run from 10-20 bucks per month(which is crazy in an area like mine, where the second cheapest gym is 60 per month and the most expensive runs 119 a month). Again, we market to first time gym users; those who–due to their inexperience–would be very hesitant to join a gym for $60 a month, but are willing to give it a shot for $10 a month. Resultantly, we have a lot of members. And make a lot of money.

To connect this back to the topic at hand, such people are often intimidated by gyms in general, and having a lot of sweaty, grunting lifters scares them off.

For every BB’er we lose, we gain 100 members. Can’t really be mad at the club for enforcing the rules when you put it like that.

There is no need to hate on that club or the franchise specifically. For whatever type of gym-goer you are, there’s probably a place out there to suit your needs/wants. Join it and be happy, instead of whining about the unfair regulations set upon you by the club YOU elected to become a member of.

  • Roman

I guess I’m back.

I belong to Planet fitness. I belong because it’s $19.99 a month, and I get to bring a guest free. Since my girlfriend and I work out together (I work her like a rented mule she says) we basically have 2 memberships for one, which incidently, the one membership I pay for is half the price of the Gold’s in my area.

On another (non-grunting) issue, a couple of weeks ago, the scales disappeared from both the men’s and women’s locker rooms. I asked the desk person where they went and she advised the scales were removed by fiat of the corporate headquarters. They also suggested that I send corporate an e-mail to complain. I did and got the following response:
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"Hello,
We have removed the scales from the clubs for the following reason: We are a judgement free zone and want all our members to feel comfortable, not intimidated by numbers on a scale or for any other reasons. We feel to keep with the atmosphere this is a positive step towards this goal. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. If I can help you with anything else or assist you in any other matters just me know!

Have a great day!"
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I responded that it was ironic that the scales disappeared on or about the same day that a study in the New England Journal of Medicine indicated that maintenance programs, focusing on daily weighing and face-to-face intervention, helps dieters maintain their weight loss. They didn’t respond to my further comment.

I guess face-to-face intervention (except to combat grunting) is not their style. For the record, my local Planet Fitness didn’t even know how to turn on the grunting alarm. We deadlift, bang weights a bit, and bench without spotters and haven’t been yelled at yet.

[quote]John Roman wrote:
Lots of stuff
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Good post.

I hate the idea of a gym that caters to the pussified gym population. But at the same time, I’d rather they have a place like PF to go so they will actually do something besides sitting on the couch, eating Pringles, and watching reruns of Friends. Good marketing strategy too.

Planet Fitness should remove their mirrors also, this is supposed to be a no judgment zone, but when some of those people look in the mirrors they may judge themselves, and this is bad for business.

They should also only let fat-ass out of shape people there be trainers, as I don’t want to feel intimidated by Brian’s superior pectoids.

[quote]BGB wrote:
I"m with those who said if you dont like then just find another gym instead of complaining.

I own a gym and guess what - no grunting allowed.

Why? Because it intimidates others, including most women. Do I want to lose a sale due to some guy unable to train hard without making some big noises?

Yes one grunt or noise here or there is not the issue, it’s those that grunt/make noise the entire time - is it really necessary? No.

It’s my gym and I’d rather not lose sales for your one membership - simple as that…

Get a home gym and grunt all you like…[/quote]

You are the best testimonial a home gym or your competition could ever get.

There’s reasonable, controlled, perfectly-normal-when-you’re-lifting-heavy grunting, and then there’s “I’m a big bad-ass tough guy, look at me” grunting, which is usually 5 times as loud as the first kind. If it was the latter, I’d have no probelm with him getting booted from my gym.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
You’ve got to be kidding me! This is why I keep saying Americans are getting more and more wussified! No grunting in the gym? And how do you define grunting? Lift any significant amount of weight and you are going to make some noise. I am pretty quiet for the most part, but even I make some noise when the weight gets near to max loads. Even with that, I make far less noise than the “Bench and Bicep” boys that are in my gym. You know the types, 150 lbs soaking wet, do nothing but various bench pressing followed by different curls and that’s it.

This whole story is pathetic and is an illustration of the sad state of our society as a whole.

You also get a free shot of estrogen and a soy latte with every sign up.

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You just had to bum me out more. Didn’t you? :wink:

Its more than just the grunting if you think about it, they do not want serious lifters there period. They are catering to people who are intimidated by gyms, and feel more comfortable without us there.

If it gets people off their couch and into the gym, even if its for what you and I would consider a pussy workout, then I say its a good thing. There are plenty of gyms around for the rest of us.

[quote]Damici wrote:
There’s reasonable, controlled, perfectly-normal-when-you’re-lifting-heavy grunting, and then there’s “I’m a big bad-ass tough guy, look at me” grunting, which is usually 5 times as loud as the first kind. If it was the latter, I’d have no probelm with him getting booted from my gym.
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I can agree with this. It wasn’t that I felt that the “gym” was wrong in enforcing their rules. I just felt that it was sad that pussified rules like this were needed in a “gym” in the first place.

Although, I am glad that there is a place where all of these namby-pamby, whimpy, punk-ass metrosexual wannabes can all hang out in one large group. Keep all of those asshats in one place and out of the real gyms. That way I don’t have to worry about the “Squat-Rack” curlers anymore. They have a place to feel superior and they are out of rack and out of my way!

[quote]mazilla wrote:
no your a retard and i hope somebody smashes your ass with a barbell full of weight, then grunts over your crused wafer thin body.
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oh boy… somebody has issues

lol

There’s reasonable, controlled, perfectly-normal-when-you’re-lifting-heavy grunting, and then there’s “I’m a big bad-ass tough guy, look at me” grunting,

I agree. It’s like in the tennis. I can’t watch this lady play tennis anymore cause she grunts HARD, every single time she hits the ball…Drop shot or serve? Is it really neccessary?
I mean if there’s one thing i can’t stand it’s watching a woman grunting and groaning for hours on …oh bugger

[quote]stockzy wrote:
There’s reasonable, controlled, perfectly-normal-when-you’re-lifting-heavy grunting, and then there’s “I’m a big bad-ass tough guy, look at me” grunting,

I agree. It’s like in the tennis. I can’t watch this lady play tennis anymore cause she grunts HARD, every single time she hits the ball…Drop shot or serve? Is it really neccessary?
I mean if there’s one thing i can’t stand it’s watching a woman grunting and groaning for hours on …oh bugger

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Good comparison. There should be a grunting Hall of Fame for female tennis, by the way. I’d induct Monica Seles, Maria Sharapova and Serena Williams in the inaugural class.

Well, whatever a ‘Muli-Press Station’ is I can guarantee that Mr. Former Competitive Bodybuilder was not “SQUATTING” 500-pounds on it. He might have been doing something with it, but he wasn’t SQUATTING it. That’s done with a barbell on a squat rack.

That said, the guy’s a douche. Why? He joined this shithole. They have signs all over the place? They have sirens that go off if you grunt or drop a weight? And he thought this was a GOOD place to train?

The assholes that run the place should start a sewing circle and get out of the ‘gym’ business. If men can’t lift without being intimidated by “muscleheads” then they need to go home and braid their vagina hair. And the dipshit who grunted should go to jail for being so fucking stupid or so fucking cheap to join a dump like this.

[quote]mazilla wrote:
simon-hecubus wrote:
Grunting is a colossal waste of energy.

your trippin, grunting is scientifically proven to help get those few extra pounds up.[/quote]

Thanks, Mr. Wizard!

I also heard that grunting and slamming plates together have a synergistic effect and can get you the attention that mommy and daddy never gave you!


Seriously though, I know what you’re talking about. A good grunt gets you past the sticking points, but some obnoxious assheads take it way too far and need to get their disruptive spectacle out the gym.

[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
Wrote things…[/quote]

They LITERALLY have a siren and a GIGANTIC sign that reads everything they frown upon yet he still joined.

He deserved whatever happened to him for disobeying their rules that are CLEARLY marked.