Thoughts on Getting Married

[quote]4est wrote:

Uh… sometimes it’s impossible to compensate for 1 of the 2.

Wife #1 -

  • cheated
  • hid things from me
  • multiple personality
  • Threw tantrums
  • Told her friends she had inoperable brain cancer.
  • Faked a rape including police report.
  • … etc.

Wife #2 - (got rid of her after 3 months)
found out she was very much like wife #1 plus:

  • Borderline Personality Disorder
  • lier lier lier
  • Manipulator of all she touched
  • Required being the center of attention
  • self mutilator
  • Faked pregnancy and/or lied about miscarriage
  • Claimed to be a 3 time cancer survivor
  • Think she poisoned me twice (both times had intestinal burning for 3-4 days, not cramps)
  • She filed for marriage to a former friend of mine ONE DAY after I filed for divorce. Can’t wait till she tries to screw him over and take 1/2 his possessions. I’ll make sure he finds out about the legality of the marriage.

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They must have been really hot, though. …Right?

The key to a successful marriage is to live in different states. I live in Wisconsin, my wife lives in California, and we have been happily married for 8 years now. Not a problem at all in the last four years. So get married and move to a different state.

And get a girlfriend.

And basically live a completely separate life.

Our anniversary is next month. Love ya, Liz!

[quote]justrob wrote:
charlie_bear wrote:
if she makes you happy and you want to spend your life with her, marry her. you cannot worry about what ‘might’ happen 10 years from now.

Totally agree.

and you’re right kids are the best…the effect is MUCH greater. follow your heart not your head!

Not quite sure about this one. I think you need both.

I think it’s essential that you go into every significant commitment in life (not just marriage, but career, setting up a business, managing your money, and even lifting weights) with a lot of passion and emotion (ie, heart).

But it’s often the ‘head’ things (ie, the lack of) that gets people unstuck in the long term. Not knowing yourself or what you really want in life, or not knowing your partner (her values, what she really wants), not having a solid business plan, not following a good training program, not setting up a budget, not making sound investment decisions.

“Heart” gets you going and keeps you going through the rough times. “Head” generally minimises the impact of the rough times, but more importantly minimises the chance of rough times occuring in the first place.

But I like the sentiment. :slight_smile:
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okay. agreed, a healthy mix is always good. My life didn’t take off until I had a wife by be that was supporting me and at the same time taking care of the things in my lie I didn’t have the time for. The kids thing is a personal preference, I dont want to be 40 years removed from my children, late in life i wanrt to enjoy them. Thats all…at any rate its YOUR life so good luck to you and her. I already have my wife, family & my own money/business so i’m on the other side.

[quote]charlie_bear wrote:

okay. agreed, a healthy mix is always good. My life didn’t take off until I had a wife by be that was supporting me and at the same time taking care of the things in my lie I didn’t have the time for. The kids thing is a personal preference, I dont want to be 40 years removed from my children, late in life i wanrt to enjoy them. Thats all…at any rate its YOUR life so good luck to you and her. I already have my wife, family & my own money/business so i’m on the other side.[/quote]

Gotcha, thought you were talking about something else earlier. We’re on the same page with this one. Sounds like you’ve set your life up nicely sir.

Marriage is about finding the right person for you.

I lived with my wife for 8 years before we got married. Have been married 4 years now. We spent yesterday on our boat, went to dinner after we got back to land and had sex on the floor of the den when we got home. We have no children and don’t plan to. We are happy.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

My thoughts too.

We celebrate our 25th anniversary of meeting each other in about three weeks. We celebrate our 25 wedding anniversary this fall.

Wouldn’t change a thing if I could.

And yes, the marriage certificate means something, IMO.

And yes, the thrill of raising kids and building a family is something that can’t be duplicated in any shape, form or fashion. Our 19 year old son just returned home from his first year of college and it is the greatest feeling on earth to realize what a fine young man he has become. He is what he is partly because of the stable, married environment he and his sister grew up in.

Marriage is not an archaic, useless anachronism despite the fact that really hip, progressive people know better.[/quote]

Well said, Push.

I heard a good marriage described as akin to having your dream job: you’ve won the lottery in that area, there is no job you’d rather have, the pay and benefits are great, you feel satisfied with the work you do, but like that dream job, you still have to wake up and show up to work, even on days where you don’t feel 100%, and you have to invest in its progress.

Marriage is fantastic, but it takes work. My dimestore psychology suggests that too many people think that marriage is a blissful endpoint after the wedding, and when they realize there is effort and commitment involved, they think marriage is “broken”.

Marriage doesn’t fit into the instant self-gratification culture we have too much of, bur properly cultivated, marriage is one of the greatest rewards of a life. At the risk of abusing analogies, it’s no different than building a great physique - there is no instant fix or magic pill. It takes work, commitment, and a desire to see it through to reap all the benefits.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
malonetd wrote:
The key to a successful marriage is to live in different states. I live in Wisconsin, my wife lives in California, and we have been happily married for 8 years now. Not a problem at all in the last four years. So get married and move to a different state.

And get a girlfriend.

And basically live a completely separate life.

Our anniversary is next month. Love ya, Liz!

You literally got me to LOL.[/quote]

But it’s true.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
malonetd wrote:
pushharder wrote:
malonetd wrote:
The key to a successful marriage is to live in different states. I live in Wisconsin, my wife lives in California, and we have been happily married for 8 years now. Not a problem at all in the last four years. So get married and move to a different state.

And get a girlfriend.

And basically live a completely separate life.

Our anniversary is next month. Love ya, Liz!

You literally got me to LOL.

But it’s true.

That’s what makes it so funny. BTW, is the wife good in bed?[/quote]

LOL. She was. It’s been a few years since we slept together. I guess we’re going through a cold spell.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:
The thing I don’t understand about the ‘it’s meaningless/just a piece of paper people’ is that if it’s so meaningless, why are you so deadset against it.

If it’s just a formality and no different than a longterm and loving, committed realationship, why not do it. [prenup if you must I suppose if it’s practical consequences you’re worried about][/quote]

I’m not deadset against it, but I do consider the legal ramifications.

Sure, there’s the possibility of a prenup, but to me it’s kind of inconsistent trying to take your relationship to the next level with an even deeper commitment in the form of marriage and at the same time safeguarding against possible hazards in case of a future divorce.

You express your profound trust by marrying a person and simultaneously, you need a contract because you fear you won’t even be able to settle things amicably when things don’t turn out as planned?

On the flipside, what can marriage offer me that I can’t have in the framework of a “simple relationship”? I can only speak for myself, but for me it’s nothing significant at all.

I’ll have to add that I don’t want to have children. Perhaps I’d think somewhat of the issue if it were otherwise, I really don’t know. As I stated before, though, at least in Austria, the law provides security for children one way or the other.

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I think it’s much more than a formalistic ritual and symbolic and indicative of a deeper committment and approach to a relationship. [/quote]

Not the way I see it, but in that case, I could imagine why you would consider getting married. Obviously a case of personal opinions.

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The next step that some people just don’t want to take. People who avoid it want to give themselves an ‘out’ consciously or unconsciously.[/quote]

Exactly. If I stay together with the other person despite the possibility of taking the easy way out without negative consequences and my significant other does the same, chances are that we’re still together for the right reasons.

See chameleon
Lying there in the sun
All things to everyone
Run runaway

A woman comes down to the breakfast table one morning to find her husband crying his eyes out.

“What’s the matter with you?” she asks.

He wipes his eyes, sniffles and says “Do you remember 20 years ago when we were teenagers, I got you pregnant and your father said I either had to marry you or go to prison?”

“Yes, I remember. But why are you crying?”

“I would’ve gotten out today!!”

[quote]4est wrote:
See chameleon
Lying there in the sun
All things to everyone
Run runaway

Dude, that song is awesome.


Marriage in a nut shell

[quote]pushharder wrote:
You have fallen for my trap! Now you are obligated to post pics![/quote]

I wasn’t going to, but then I thought, “What the hell?” But I now realized the only pics I have are from our old camcorder that wasn’t designed for still shots and are poor quality.

In any event, there she is.