They just showed the video of a reporter confronting some of the Chrysler workers in the parking lot. As expected, they rushed themselves into their cars and drove off. The best line I heard by a reporter in a long time…
“Hey you guys work at Chrysler but are driving Fords!” LOL
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them.
Think about this - they are all drinking 40s of beer in 10 MINUTES AND SMOKING, they aren’t just a little “buzzed”… correct me if i’m wrong but isn’t a big 40 of beer the same as 4 regular cans?? 4 beers in 10 minutes plus the dope! these guys are going back to work building cars half cut, not just a little buzzed…
plus there driving around
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
The news station said it followed the same group of guys for 10 days… You mean, there are a few bad apples? Shocking, absolutely shocking. I’m in disbelief myself.
I’m less concerned with the chump change that the auto industry got in comparison to what Wall St received.[/quote]
These were the few bad apples that got caught on tape. If you think there aren’t huge inefficiencies throughout these companies you are extremely naive.
Do you know hard it is to NOT notice someone was smoking pot just a few minutes earlier? That means these guys go back to work smelling like booze and pot and the managers knowingly let it go. Doesn’t that make you wonder what else they turn a blind eye to?
Come on, man.
Dyslexia’d for editing.[/quote]
Of course there are inefficiencies in these companies, as there are in every company, but the direction of this thread is already targeted at the unions. Really? Everyone’s going to sit around and circle jerk about how this is only possible because it’s a company with union employees? That’s naive.
I’m pretty easy to talk to and get along with a lot of people, numerous people at different jobs would tell me they smoked pot on their lunch breaks. Sometimes I could smell or tell, other times I would have been clueless. So yes, it’s definitely possible to pull it off, you’re just assuming the managers knew.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You forgot to mention, that the workers MUST buy cars by their competitor. THIS, when Obama touted Chrysler for building such high quality vehicles. You know something is wrong, when the guy on the assembly line is buying a car from another company.
Sorry but that is some funny shit.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You are an idiot as usual. The reason that Chrysler is a shit company is not the fact that a group of employees were getting drunk and high daily during the day, it’s the fact that management allowed intoxicated guys at work daily. It is a very telling reflection on their management and how the company is run.
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
I couldn’t have said it better myself (and I tried).
It’s like that scene from Casino when DeNiro fires the guy for letting 3 jackpots hit within an hour. He was either in on the job or too stupid to see it happening.
I was half joking, I don’t think EVERYBODY is drunk and high. But this certainly doesn’t paint a pretty picture for the company as a whole.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You are an idiot as usual. The reason that Chrysler is a shit company is not the fact that a group of employees were getting drunk and high daily during the day, it’s the fact that management allowed intoxicated guys at work daily. It is a very telling reflection on their management and how the company is run.
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
Decades ago, you could not kill an American built car. Serious, many of you are too young (not that I am much of an old fart myself), but you could drive an American made car through a war and it would keep ticking just fine.
Now, they are made pretty cheap. Plasticky and flimsy, they have taken a bad rep and paid the price for it. I am all for buying American made, but the Germans and Japanese have taken note and capitalized on it. Toyota has been one of the most successful companies here for a reason, people don’t want problems with their car. They QC is much higher, shit I don’t care if they have bukkake going on in the break room, they know how to make a damn solid car. I would love to see the Big 3 get back to where they were years ago, but unions are not making it easy.
They’re allowed to smoke up.
It’s Union weed. Not that cheapo scab weed grown by foreigners.
That shit will get you fired, not blazed.
Unions are killing America, I work for the post office and I am a Rural Carrier. Let me say that it is impossible to get fired, one person has been fired 3 times and still has his job. He ran over a mailbox, walked out on his job and was caught throwing away mail. He fought his case and won plus he got paid for over 6 months while his case was pending. Its horrible, it makes one think why should one go out of his way to do a good job when this piece of scum does nothing yet gets paid.
Another lady in our office filed a lawsuit for racism and won over 100k, at the moment she is collecting workers comp for being overstressed by the managers. She also filed a pesonal lawsuit against a fellow employee saying he hit her when nobody was there. He got arrested and charged, meanwhile she went on workers comp. Its a damn shame this unions are protecting this kinds of acts. So people its not the mailman who is bad its the system that protects this low-lives.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You are an idiot as usual. The reason that Chrysler is a shit company is not the fact that a group of employees were getting drunk and high daily during the day, it’s the fact that management allowed intoxicated guys at work daily. It is a very telling reflection on their management and how the company is run.
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
First of all, eat shit.
Second of all, you can do nothing other than make assumptions about whether or not management knew what they were doing. That’s it. As to whether they were incompetent? I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement to be a manager… Do you know how many people work at these plants? You expect them to walk up to each individual face-to-face to so they can gauge whether or not that person is under the influence of something? You’re an idiot.
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
I couldn’t have said it better myself (and I tried).
It’s like that scene from Casino when DeNiro fires the guy for letting 3 jackpots hit within an hour. He was either in on the job or too stupid to see it happening.[/quote]
You get 5 points for a Casino reference.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You are an idiot as usual. The reason that Chrysler is a shit company is not the fact that a group of employees were getting drunk and high daily during the day, it’s the fact that management allowed intoxicated guys at work daily. It is a very telling reflection on their management and how the company is run.
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
First of all, eat shit.
Second of all, you can do nothing other than make assumptions about whether or not management knew what they were doing. That’s it. As to whether they were incompetent? I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement to be a manager… Do you know how many people work at these plants? You expect them to walk up to each individual face-to-face to so they can gauge whether or not that person is under the influence of something? You’re an idiot.[/quote]
A group of guys always show up stoned and drunk smelling of pot and beer after lunch. Yes, any competent manager would have fired them. And yes, there are line managers that are face to face with them everyday.
If it were a one time or even once a month thing, you could argue they just were managing to not get caught, but this was EVERY DAY. You have to have terribly incompetent management for that to happen.
If you think these guys were doing this and keeping it quiet, you’re also an idiot. People talk. I’m sure most of the plant would have at least heard rumors.
These guys weren’t even being secretive. Most places you’re in shit for having beer on your breath, much less reeking of pot. Hell, we used to fire guys for doing alcohol enemas. No, beer on the breath, no pot smell, and still managers would figure it out.
I don’t know if you have any actual work experience, much less experience in a high volume assembly plant, but if you aren’t catching these guys you fail, big time.
I think that must be Pulitzer Prize winning Journalism , I am surprised they could not find people heing and sheing in the bath room
UAW is one of the parties responsible for the situation with domestic auto manufacturers, no question here.
The money given to the big 3 though was not a bailout and is being paid back by them already at a 12% interest.
Ford and Chrysler are paying already, GM tried to pull some stint to make it seem like they are, but they aren’t yet.
In any case this was not a bailout, rather a loan that helped to save countless jobs at auto manufacturers, their suppliers etc.
Japanese, for example, get subsidies from their government for R&D, some engineering expenses on a constant basis, not to mention their currency manipulation to make their products more attractive.
Just another example of unfair “globalization”.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
[quote]StevenF wrote:
No wonder the quality of American made automobiles is not good, everyone is high and drunk that are making them. [/quote]
Yup, everyone at an automobile plant smokes dope and drinks alcohol during work hours on a daily basis. It’s actually required to sign a pledge that you’ll commit to doing both on a consistent basis, if you pass a drug test you’re actually fired.[/quote]
You are an idiot as usual. The reason that Chrysler is a shit company is not the fact that a group of employees were getting drunk and high daily during the day, it’s the fact that management allowed intoxicated guys at work daily. It is a very telling reflection on their management and how the company is run.
Management was either complacent of incompetent. Pick one, but it still shows how much of a shit company they are.[/quote]
First of all, eat shit.
Second of all, you can do nothing other than make assumptions about whether or not management knew what they were doing. That’s it. As to whether they were incompetent? I’m pretty sure that’s a requirement to be a manager… Do you know how many people work at these plants? You expect them to walk up to each individual face-to-face to so they can gauge whether or not that person is under the influence of something? You’re an idiot.[/quote]
First of all, bend and flush.
Are you referring to the same people who mismanaged their finances requiring a bailout in the first place? I am pretty sure some simple mathematical and economic common sense is a requirement, but that didn’t stop them did it?
How far away can you smell the stink of weed? Me?..from another zip code. How easy is it to see the glazed over eyes or less than optimal coordination of someone drunk or high? I think you’re the idiot here.
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
UAW is one of the parties responsible for the situation with domestic auto manufacturers, no question here.
The money given to the big 3 though was not a bailout and is being paid back by them already at a 12% interest.
Ford and Chrysler are paying already, GM tried to pull some stint to make it seem like they are, but they aren’t yet.
In any case this was not a bailout, rather a loan that helped to save countless jobs at auto manufacturers, their suppliers etc.
Japanese, for example, get subsidies from their government for R&D, some engineering expenses on a constant basis, [b]not to mention their currency manipulation to make their products more attractive.[/b]
Just another example of unfair “globalization”.[/quote]
You might want to check this “fact.”
I own 60,000 dollars in Toyota , I know they have never done ANY thing like that . Their Employees would never drink or smoke or even fuck on company time . Damn Obama