Finished my second cycle 4 week ago.
My first cycle was:
Sustanon 250 2amps every week on a friday
Dianabol 20mg a day for 5 week
Tomixfen 20mg a day for duration
it lasted 7 week i gained just shy of 2 stone
then had 7 week off.
Second cycle was:
Sustanon 250 2amps every week on a friday
Dianabol 20mg a day for 7 week
Tomixfen 20mg a day for duration
it lasted 7 week i gained about a stone
So nearly about to start third one. am in need of sum advice. am changing from sust to test en.
I have some suggestions for your third cycle. Keep the test E, and add in some deca at 400mg/week and bump up your dbol to 30mg/day for 6 weeks. Remember that deca takes longer to clear the system than test E so cut it a couple weeks short. Also, stop running nolv throughout, use an AI during cycle and keep the nolv for PCT or in case of a flare up.
Give us more info: general goals, stats, training history, etc and specific goals for your upcoming cycle.
Mistakes you’ve made:
Taking your Sustanon all at once only once a week.
Very low, almost ineffective, dose of Dianabol.
Using a SERM during cycle instead of after.
Not using an AI (although it’s not completely necessary)
Irritating me with your lack of pluralizing the word “week.”
Yea you never even used test e at all man.
That is pretty much the base for everything.
Also, you might want to consider longer cycles, more like 12-15 weeks as opposed to the 7 youre doing now.
And do a bit or research on these hormones before you stick them in your body next time so that have some sort of clue as to how to take them.
shooting that sust once a week you are completely wasting the propionate. I am not too familiar with all the sust esters but I can assume there are other short acting esters in there you are wasting.
The only real short ester in the sus is the prop. However most people even shoot enathate or cyp twice a week min, some E3D.
Bottom line is that sus should be shot EOD or E3D at the very least.
mistakes in your first 2:
shooting all in one day. sust has prop and phenylprop in it. it should have been EOD, or E3D minimum.
using 20 mg of nolva during is overkill. use an AI during. keep the SERMS on hand in case of sides. and use SERMS for your PCT.
20 mg of d-bol is a little low. although i use 20-30 mg and am pleased with the effects. maybe up the dose slightly.
thoughts for your next cycle.
weeks 1-12: test enan 500 mg/wk (mon and thurs)
weeks 1-4 & 8-11: d-bol 30 mg ED
you could throw in 3-400 mg deca/wk in there from 1-10.
you can use an AI during. a-dex at 0.5 mg EOD would be an effective dose for what you would be running.
PCT is your preference. standard PCT or a taper.
[quote]juice20jd wrote:
mistakes in your first 2:
shooting all in one day. sust has prop and phenylprop in it. it should have been EOD, or E3D minimum.
using 20 mg of nolva during is overkill. use an AI during. keep the SERMS on hand in case of sides. and use SERMS for your PCT.
20 mg of d-bol is a little low. although i use 20-30 mg and am pleased with the effects. maybe up the dose slightly.
thoughts for your next cycle.
weeks 1-12: test enan 500 mg/wk (mon and thurs)
weeks 1-4 & 8-11: d-bol 30 mg ED
you could throw in 3-400 mg deca/wk in there from 1-10.
you can use an AI during. a-dex at 0.5 mg EOD would be an effective dose for what you would be running.
PCT is your preference. standard PCT or a taper.[/quote]
like hte look of that cycle pal.
just not sure what AI is. cheers again every one
[quote]Varty1743 wrote:
juice20jd wrote:
mistakes in your first 2:
shooting all in one day. sust has prop and phenylprop in it. it should have been EOD, or E3D minimum.
using 20 mg of nolva during is overkill. use an AI during. keep the SERMS on hand in case of sides. and use SERMS for your PCT.
20 mg of d-bol is a little low. although i use 20-30 mg and am pleased with the effects. maybe up the dose slightly.
thoughts for your next cycle.
weeks 1-12: test enan 500 mg/wk (mon and thurs)
weeks 1-4 & 8-11: d-bol 30 mg ED
you could throw in 3-400 mg deca/wk in there from 1-10.
you can use an AI during. a-dex at 0.5 mg EOD would be an effective dose for what you would be running.
PCT is your preference. standard PCT or a taper.
like hte look of that cycle pal.
just not sure what AI is. cheers again every one
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AI= A-dex, Aromasin, Letro