Orion, I think you and IH are agreeing but you’re taking it way too psychological where he is not.
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
Hitler.
I mean not for the assinate all Jews campaign, but you have to admit, the guy was a great fucking leader. He took an entire nation from zero to hero…and then ofcourse back to zero[/quote]
No, I do not have to admit.
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Nor do I.
A great fucking leader doesn’t destroy the citizens of his own nation. [/quote]
Yeah, I don’t even know where to start with that one…
I assume the kid was joking but he needs to read a history book with illustrations before he finds that shit funny. [/quote]
I hope he was joking as well. Still in poor taste.
I’m always amazed when I hear certain people denying the Holocaust ever happened.
You mentioned illustrations… but I know you meant photographs.
What’s interesting is, I’ve never seen an illustration of the atrocities of the Holocaust. The photos are so raw in telling the story, I can’t imagine a artist capturing that.
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Also, there were artists in Auschwitz, some survived, some smuggled paintings out:
http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/holocaust/art.htm
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It’s absolutely frakking terrifying that art came out of Auschwitz when an artist orchestrated the whole thing. ID will know what I’m talking about. [/quote]
You bet!
Hitler’s first dream for a career was to be an artist.
I’m not sure if it’s ever been studied as such, but I have a theory that Hitler’s hatred of Jews began with his rejection from the art academy (which was headed by Jews).
I agree that is is terrifying that art did come out of the camps under such conditions. But some of the greatest art ever made was created during times of duress.
When you are left with nothing, then what you have inside is the only thing you can hold onto. These people could do nothing but express this.
Earlier when I mentioned I’ve never seen illustrations of the Holocaust, I meant from later artists (not survivors) hired to draw pictures for books or articles.
There may be some in existence, but I’m not aware of them.
[quote]pat wrote:
I’d hang with Bill Clinton, even if politically we’re off. [/quote]
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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:
Metallica’s St. Anger album
The Tick
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never heard of anyone even knowing of the tick. its great. and the kids i watched it with hated it.
but fuck st. anger. Its kill em all or nothing [/quote]
They must not of had souls.
Sure St. Anger wasn’t Master of Puppets or Black album quality but, saying that its shit or even metallicas worst album is a little harsh i mean its not Reload or anything.
Supernatural.
Best TV series ever made. Walking dead doesn’t compare.
[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Supernatural.
Best TV series ever made. Walking dead doesn’t compare.[/quote]
Who hates it? We have head threads talking about it.
Vegans that try to push their dumb veggies ways on you.
[quote]T11 wrote:
Vegans that try to push their dumb veggies ways on you. [/quote]
And you love this???
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[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Supernatural.
Best TV series ever made. Walking dead doesn’t compare.[/quote]
Who hates it? We have head threads talking about it.[/quote]
I had no idea. I thought I was all alone out in the cold on that one.
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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:
Hitler.
I mean not for the assinate all Jews campaign, but you have to admit, the guy was a great fucking leader. He took an entire nation from zero to hero…and then ofcourse back to zero[/quote]
No, I do not have to admit.
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Nor do I.
A great fucking leader doesn’t destroy the citizens of his own nation. [/quote]
Yeah, I don’t even know where to start with that one…
I assume the kid was joking but he needs to read a history book with illustrations before he finds that shit funny. [/quote]
I hope he was joking as well. Still in poor taste.
I’m always amazed when I hear certain people denying the Holocaust ever happened.
You mentioned illustrations… but I know you meant photographs.
What’s interesting is, I’ve never seen an illustration of the atrocities of the Holocaust. The photos are so raw in telling the story, I can’t imagine a artist capturing that.
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Genghis Kahn, Stalin, and Hitler were/are considered great leaders. Now, were they good people? Fuck no. But, they still had the qualities that made people follow them.[/quote]
I’m sorry but I believe you should be using the word “despot” to discribe the people you listed above. A trait of the despot is falsely influencing the masses to initially gain power, and afterwards using terror to retain said power.
“Leaders” would better fit people like Gandi or Mandela also influenced the masses, but after gaining power, returned it to the people.
A “manipulative sociopath” on the other hand would be a Charles Manson or Jim Jones, who used their influence to make the masses follow their will.
Hitler (like Idi Amin Dada) was a despot, and may they burn in hell (or the atheistic equivalent) for eternity.
Goo Goo dolls, well at least my wife hates them, I cant stop singing and playing their songs over and over again.
The NY JETS!
Canada and Canadians were all pretty cool to me, espescially in ahem Montreal.
Robin Williams, and golf.
[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]Ambugaton wrote:
Supernatural.
Best TV series ever made. Walking dead doesn’t compare.[/quote]
Who hates it? We have head threads talking about it.[/quote]
I had no idea. I thought I was all alone out in the cold on that one.[/quote]
I love the shit out of that show! Im glad they are making at least 2 more seasons.
[quote]Cuso wrote:
Robin Williams, and golf.
Lol thats cherry.
JUST KDDING
I like the Sci-fi channel alot. especially their sh*tty movies lark sharktopus
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[quote]T11 wrote:
Vegans that try to push their dumb veggies ways on you. [/quote]
And you love this???
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Ahem…Hitler was a vegetarian.
Not sure what I love that everyone hates…
Middle eatern people are pretty sweet…
They seem to be out of favor