[quote]Sloth wrote:
I think I could take a knife wielding boy scout. Probably a couple of them. In fact, I’d say 5 might be the upper limit. They can’t have much of a chin at that age, so the knockouts would come fast. True, Boy Scouts are trained and honed for survival, but with or without a blade, I’m still going to have reach advantage and a berzerker rage triggered by being cornered by evil children (they freak me out). Besides, I’ve seen some knife disarms on youtube.[/quote]
I could see you taking out 5 in an arena-style deathmatch, but that’s not how the Boy Scouts operate. Instead they would lure you into some wooded area with the smell of freshly roasted s’mores or smoked sausages, then pounce on you from the treetops screaming their war cry “KUMBAYA!” Before you knew what hit you, a party of primeval prepubescent warriors would be on top of you, expertly stabbing your most vital areas. In this scenario the Boy Scouts would win no-contest.
[quote]NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I think I could take a knife wielding boy scout. Probably a couple of them. In fact, I’d say 5 might be the upper limit. They can’t have much of a chin at that age, so the knockouts would come fast. True, Boy Scouts are trained and honed for survival, but with or without a blade, I’m still going to have reach advantage and a berzerker rage triggered by being cornered by evil children (they freak me out). Besides, I’ve seen some knife disarms on youtube.
I could see you taking out 5 in an arena-style deathmatch, but that’s not how the Boy Scouts operate. Instead they would lure you into some wooded area with the smell of freshly roasted s’mores or smoked sausages, then pounce on you from the treetops screaming their war cry “KUMBAYA!” Before you knew what hit you, a party of primeval prepubescent warriors would be on top of you, expertly stabbing your most vital areas. In this scenario the Boy Scouts would win no-contest.[/quote]
They’d use S’mores?! That’s some dirty fighting right there.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
Sloth wrote:
I think I could take a knife wielding boy scout. Probably a couple of them. In fact, I’d say 5 might be the upper limit. They can’t have much of a chin at that age, so the knockouts would come fast. True, Boy Scouts are trained and honed for survival, but with or without a blade, I’m still going to have reach advantage and a berzerker rage triggered by being cornered by evil children (they freak me out). Besides, I’ve seen some knife disarms on youtube.
I could see you taking out 5 in an arena-style deathmatch, but that’s not how the Boy Scouts operate. Instead they would lure you into some wooded area with the smell of freshly roasted s’mores or smoked sausages, then pounce on you from the treetops screaming their war cry “KUMBAYA!” Before you knew what hit you, a party of primeval prepubescent warriors would be on top of you, expertly stabbing your most vital areas. In this scenario the Boy Scouts would win no-contest.
They’d use S’mores?! That’s some dirty fighting right there.[/quote]
Yeah, the Fish Gutting badge has nothing to do with gutting fish…
[quote]Sloth wrote:
I think I could take a knife wielding boy scout. Probably a couple of them. In fact, I’d say 5 might be the upper limit. They can’t have much of a chin at that age, so the knockouts would come fast. True, Boy Scouts are trained and honed for survival, but with or without a blade, I’m still going to have reach advantage and a berzerker rage triggered by being cornered by evil children (they freak me out). Besides, I’ve seen some knife disarms on youtube.[/quote]
what if? those boy scouts, turned out to be excellent tacticians. used their knives to make long sticks in to pikes, and lure you in to a trap. you being in a berserker rage and not thinking straight. keeping you at a distance, so you can’t use you’re strength. all the while being able to stab you, from different directions. in the end being defeated, by a bunch of pre-pubescent
boy scouts.
[quote]doc_man_101 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
The table has been set. The British have now been thoroughly disarmed. Panic tactics worked nicely. Fools.
Now the only people with weapons are the criminals and those in charge of the British sheep. LoL. Good for them.
I’m not sure that those in charge have many weapons, either. It’s the criminals, mostly (ok: some of the criminals are in charge).
Here’s a snot rocket for Britain.
Wow. Thanks for your concerned interest.
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I didn’t mean to insult you. But ask your self, why would someone want you to be disarmed? Where is the trust? Why be denied that power? Don’t you see how that diminishes you as a human being? Guns are the ultimate equalizers. If you think of them as an EQUALIZER and you’ll perhaps see that its good for the society. Fact is all statistics prove that crime is DIRECTLY proportional to gun prohibition. Gun prohibition give power and shifts the balance of power away from the people.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Gregus wrote:
The table has been set. The British have now been thoroughly disarmed. Panic tactics worked nicely. Fools.
Now the only people with weapons are the criminals and those in charge of the British sheep. LoL. Good for them.
Here’s a snot rocket for Britain.
Erm, did any of you actually read the post showing that the original post is BS?[/quote]
I don’t know about you, but rather than reading up on a topic and becoming informed about the details before casting judgement, I prefer to listen to only one viewpoint and let my emotions drive the debate. To do otherwise makes you a wishy-washy flip-flopper without any clear morals or convictions.
I’m in the UK right now, and its sad to see how far down the country has gone. There is almost nothing in your life the government doesn’t have a say in.
Labor has no control. Any news story or minor event is likely to be the target of new legislation.
[quote]Gregus wrote:
I didn’t mean to insult you. But ask your self, why would someone want you to be disarmed? Where is the trust? Why be denied that power? Don’t you see how that diminishes you as a human being? Guns are the ultimate equalizers. If you think of them as an EQUALIZER and you’ll perhaps see that its good for the society. Fact is all statistics prove that crime is DIRECTLY proportional to gun prohibition. Gun prohibition give power and shifts the balance of power away from the people. [/quote]
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
[quote]doc_man_101 wrote:
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
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As a Canadian living in Texas I totally get where you’re coming from. Personally, I feel much more free knowing that if I go to a pub back home and get into an argument with someone they probably won’t go to their car to grab their handgun out of their glovebox. But I guess you’re only really free if you have the tools at your disposal to blow someone’s head off on a whim.
[quote]NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
Gregus wrote:
The table has been set. The British have now been thoroughly disarmed. Panic tactics worked nicely. Fools.
Now the only people with weapons are the criminals and those in charge of the British sheep. LoL. Good for them.
Here’s a snot rocket for Britain.
Erm, did any of you actually read the post showing that the original post is BS?
I don’t know about you, but rather than reading up on a topic and becoming informed about the details before casting judgement, I prefer to listen to only one viewpoint and let my emotions drive the debate. To do otherwise makes you a wishy-washy flip-flopper without any clear morals or convictions.[/quote]
[quote]NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
doc_man_101 wrote:
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
As a Canadian living in Texas I totally get where you’re coming from. Personally, I feel much more free knowing that if I go to a pub back home and get into an argument with someone they probably won’t go to their car to grab their handgun out of their glovebox. But I guess you’re only really free if you have the tools at your disposal to blow someone’s head off on a whim.[/quote]
I have had that argument before on here. Don’t bother trying!
[quote]doc_man_101 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
I didn’t mean to insult you. But ask your self, why would someone want you to be disarmed? Where is the trust? Why be denied that power? Don’t you see how that diminishes you as a human being? Guns are the ultimate equalizers. If you think of them as an EQUALIZER and you’ll perhaps see that its good for the society. Fact is all statistics prove that crime is DIRECTLY proportional to gun prohibition. Gun prohibition give power and shifts the balance of power away from the people.
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
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Guarantee? What makes it a guarantee? You can point to pieces of paper if you wish, but theres only a gauruntee if theres the sense that violating what the pieces of paper say comes with consequences.
Some of the “guaranteed freedoms” that aren’t so gaurunteed in the UK:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Sort of BS.
How did I know that it would have origionated with the Daily Heil?
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Because it is a classic example of the ridiculous, idiotic bullshit that the British excel at and the Dailymail doesn’t shrink away from reporting upon the embarassing, British stupidity that other news organisations ignore.
[quote]doc_man_101 wrote:
Gregus wrote:
I didn’t mean to insult you. But ask your self, why would someone want you to be disarmed? Where is the trust? Why be denied that power? Don’t you see how that diminishes you as a human being? Guns are the ultimate equalizers. If you think of them as an EQUALIZER and you’ll perhaps see that its good for the society. Fact is all statistics prove that crime is DIRECTLY proportional to gun prohibition. Gun prohibition give power and shifts the balance of power away from the people.
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.[/quote]
If anyone needs threapy it is people who live in denial of the fact that government tyranny is the historical norm and that freedom has usually been established by force.
When the people do not have the ability to demand that those “guarantees” are respected they aren’t worth the paper they are written on. ie Neville Chamberlain had a written “guarantee” from Adolf Hitler that there would be “peace in our time”.
[quote]NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
doc_man_101 wrote:
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
As a Canadian living in Texas I totally get where you’re coming from. Personally, I feel much more free knowing that if I go to a pub back home and get into an argument with someone they probably won’t go to their car to grab their handgun out of their glovebox. But I guess you’re only really free if you have the tools at your disposal to blow someone’s head off on a whim.[/quote]
If you like to go around arguing with people in bars you are an idiot who is asking for trouble. It is people like you that we need to be able to protect ourselves from. Having spent most of my life living less than 20 miles from Canada I am well aware of just how uninhibited about assaulting people you Canadians are. Personally I think that if you Canadians had to worry about someone shooting you, you would be more civil.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
doc_man_101 wrote:
And I don’t mean to insult you: but is this for real? If you feel the need of a weapon to be whole, or to make you feel truly free, some would say that perhaps you need therapy.
The guarantees of freedom that we have - a free press, free association, free elections, an independent judiciary, a system of checks and balances, a succession of human rights legislation spanning about a thousand years - are ultimately much more valuable and more durable than a pile of weapons. At least, I think that would be the perspective of the overwhelming majority of Europeans: your mileage may vary.
As a Canadian living in Texas I totally get where you’re coming from. Personally, I feel much more free knowing that if I go to a pub back home and get into an argument with someone they probably won’t go to their car to grab their handgun out of their glovebox. But I guess you’re only really free if you have the tools at your disposal to blow someone’s head off on a whim.
I have had that argument before on here. Don’t bother trying![/quote]
And everytime you have refused to accept that when thugs don’t have to worry about getting shot they are much more likely to commit acts of violence. ie our discussions of that delightful British pub sport known as glassing. The very reason why Americans don’t go around glassing each other with impunity like the British do is because they know damn well that would be asking for someone to come back and shoot them.