No, I’m not. Everything I wrote relates specifically to the consent to governance. There is no document, law, regulation, etc… that was drafted that says it’s totally cool to shoot someone in the face outside self-defense.
If you were to shot me you couldn’t walk into court and say, “Well, he consented to being murdered implicitly by not moving.” That would be ridiculous. You also couldn’t say, “Your honor I don’t recognize the authority of this court because I don’t recognize the authority of this government.” It would be equally as ridiculous.
I mean, you could, I guess, but you’d be laughed at and found guilty because we the people gave the judge her authority.
Because the otherside is ridicoulous on it’s face.
I don’t recognize gravity. It doesn’t exist as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t recognize property or property rights. Property is a human construct and not real.
I don’t recognize DD is a person. Personhood is a human construct that I don’t believe in.
Do you remember Rogue Vampire? He didn’t believe in birthday’s. He refused to acknowledge birthdays are a real thing. Well, guess what? One day every year is his birthday whether he believe in it or not.
As far as I’m concerend this isn’t debatable. Not in the real world.
See above
Not at all, but I’m not interested in debating if water is wet.
He filled out the paperwork to enter this country, which taxes people.
He immigrated to this country. He has actually signed expressed written consent to abide by our constitution, along with formally pledging allegiance to our nation.
I get it. Since I immigrated to America I consented to any and all taxes and how the tax money is used. Not only that, being a representative democracy and all, the decisions made by politicians I implicitly support.
Guess what guys, we all have blood on our hands for the half a million Iraqi’s killed overseas. It doesn’t matter if you voiced opposition to the war, you live in a representative democracy and this is what our representatives decided.
So, assuming your argument is the correct one, then you are right. You are using the authority of law to justify the law while arguing with a person who doesn’t acknowledge its authority.
This is terrible straw men. On the other side, you love government so you are on board with the Nazis. Straw men aside, if you are going to refuse to acknowledge the other perspective, quit pretending to have debates. Because so far every single one of your retorts to questioning the authority of government has been to claim you are right because the government says so. Just go ahead and say “I refuse to even acknowlege that there is any other possible reasonable perspective but my own” and be done with it.
So quit pretending to debate. Because so far you are just say “no, you are wrong and I am right, because I am right.”
Get out of the way of my bullet. If the only way to not consent is to leave, consent has no meaning.
Yes. But what you don’t seem to get is that as a citizen you also have the right to BECOME one of those elected officials and work to change or repeal the laws you disagree with.
That concept seems to be missing from this conversation. You don’t like our social contract?
Good. Work To Change It.
You can’t just tear it up (metaphorically) and do what ever the fuck you want though.
I didn’t say it’s impossible to consent to anything. That’s silly. You’re just not free to “not consent” to a law duly passed by a process to which you previously consented.
No, because I’m talking specifically about the rule of law established by the people via the US Constitution and nothing more. If said rule of law violates the US Constitution, the purpose of which is clearly stated, then it is my duty to fix it.
I understand extrapolation to something else is normal, but my argument is specific to the United States.
Well, there’s a misunderstanding then because my retort is not because the government says so. It’s because The People say so via the government.
Government is a tool and nothing more as far as I’m concerned.
In this specific case, there another reasonable perspective. Pretending the US government has been granted authority by the 320M American’s living here is not reasonable.
I’ve explained my position in great detail. If you don’t agree that’s fine, but there’s nothing more I can say or do about it.
Has been explained multiple times now.
You can choose to leave which is not consenting to US law.
