[quote]Robert A wrote:
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[quote]Robert A wrote:
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[quote]Robert A wrote:
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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
x2. Daryl just got really pissed about them leaving his flesh and blood to be eaten by zombies, otherwise he works well with the group and is one of the most valuable members.
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I agree that is how it worked out, but the initial appearance of two Not in the Comic characters who are both bigots screamed throw away bad guys to me. Almost like an easy route for the writers. “How do we make it ok for Rick and the audience to both hate these characters almost instantly? Answer; make them a racist.”
Now at this point Daryl is MVP of the group and has done a fair job of adapting his us vs them attitude to be us = the group, them = the walkers to the point of saving T-Dawg multiple times and Shane has done enough dirt that a convincing argument could be made that Merle, the methed out bigot who was shooting from the roof and attracting zombies, is the lesser of two evils.
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Robert A[/quote]
I remember Meryl dropping N-bombs and talking about ‘your kind’ to T-Dawg, but what did Daryl do that was racist? I honestly can’t remember. The SS chopper he’s been ridding around on is Meryl’s, not Daryl’s.
I think Daryl’s attitude is really a ‘Me vs the World’ one that he developed growing up with family like Meryl. I think the group is turning into the family he never had, which is why he’s warming up to them and why he took Sophia’s death so hard.[/quote]
Merle was the dominant brother. Daryl was seen to be racist by association, when he was just being loyal. Merle stopped him from integrating with the group and that only happened when they ditched big bro. [/quote]
That appears to be the case now with Daryl.
I think having Shane go out the way he did in the books is important to The Walking Dead atmosphere. That also requires Carl to kill several walkers first.
As for Lori, someone needs to slap some sense into her. She is consistently aweful at making decisions. I am hoping the car ride will be explained and was not simply an ill advised joy ride.
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Robert A[/quote]
Yeah. I know most people consider Vatos to be one of the worst eps, but really it is the turning point that not only brought Rick into the fold, but united Glenn, T-Dog and Daryl. They weren’t best buddies, but you could see the trust beginning to form from then on. It’s almost palpable.[/quote]
Ok, I need to admit because of the back and forth we had in the other thread;
I re-watched the Vatos episode during the marethon before season 2.5 and…I didn’t hate it.
All my old gripes were there. I still think a “retirement community” would have been a death trap, but the episode developed a lot of relationships and hit some important themes.
I think the hate stems from it being the weakest of the episodes up to its air date. Now, after the season 2.0 on the farm, with inexplicable Lori, no answers for Jenner, not using the “guts” camo again, gunshots bring Walkers lets shoot a bunch at the barn, etc. the episode really isn’t that bad. I was bitching about what would happen to hospitals/rest homes when the main characters forget things that would help them survive.
You had the perspective on this one.
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Robert A[/quote]
No need to admit anything. I look at a TV series like serialized novel. Peaks and valleys are unavoidable, but sometimes what seems to be a poor narrative choice at the time pays dividends in the long term. You won’t know exactly where the story is heading in the early days (no fun to be had in that anyway) but you can get flashes of what’s in store if you look at it in a certain way. The group dynamic is what the series is all about.
I’m just glad you gave the ep. a fair shot and can see where the piece it represents fits into the puzzle.
