The USA Should be Charged with Treason

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
Yes, that’s why the war in iraq was such a success. Also, you did so much good with Desert Storm that it totally hasn’t come back to bite you in the ass :stuck_out_tongue:

Nam was also something where you achieved alot.

Desert Storm was a coalition of many countries… even the French. Not to mention Desert Storm was a fine strategic plan with a worthwhile objective that succeeded perfectly. It’s actually one of our better executed battles/wars.

Do your research. They got libraries up in Canadia don’t they? Or you guys just get the used books that America’s done with?

You and your stupid metric system…

A great plan which came back and bit your two towers in the ass.
MARVELOUS!

Listen hoser, you should probably already know that 9/11 stemmed from American support of Israel mixed with American troops being stationed in the Muslim Holy Land of Saudi Arabia.

Really, none of them ever cared about Iraq- if anything, they’re probably glad Saddam is gone because he was a secular dictator who opposed religion having anything to do with his rule.

So again canuck, get your head out of your ass. I supported the first Gulf War, but certainly not version 2.0. If you’re trying to argue politics, then you’d better read some books or you’re just going to keep getting outclassed.

And you’re not witty enough for one line retorts, so ditch that shit too.

I’m not arguing politics. I’m just saying, you guys fuck up alot of things with your “good”.
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And we thank you guys for your continuing support. Further, we’ll even lend you our military should you get in to a jam since Canada has decided to not bother to do it themselves but rather rely on the U.S. to protect you. So bottom line, you can hate us as much as you want, but when the chips are down we know who you will turn to.

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[quote]pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:

For one you can count the amount of money that the U.S. has sent in aid around the world. When we do go to war with a country, we rebuild it and give it aid and support. The amount of missions are countable. The number of people treated for many conditions around the world is almost uncountable. Our efforts to combat epidemics and pandemics around the world is uncountable.
So really the amount of good the U.S. has done through out time is really not quantifiable. We have done so much, it is incomprehensible and cannot be counted.

Yes it is often incomprehensible.

Especially the patting on the back when you re-build something you purposely destroyed while killing a few people in the process.

Those people whose countries you so generously re-build seem to have a hard time being grateful.

Why is that?

It’s nice to get morality lessons from a people who used to put people in ovens because they were Jewish.

Besides, Afghanistan attacked us big time. So rather then welcome them with open arms, we hit back. Iraq lost it’s right to be left alone when they invaded one of our allies. We protect our allies, that’s why they are called allies. And Kuwait is quite grateful. I disagree with the Iraq war, but they were never the good guys. They were stirring shit. And had you buddy Saddam been a bit more cooperative, he could still be hunting Kurds from his northern palace to this day.

Austria…Holocaust…Jews…

I get it…

Now let us move on to the verifiability of America “goodness”, and what you would do to a people that applied their good intentions to your country the way you proselytize other countries.

In the US that would mean AT LEAST, 7-8 million children, dying from sanctions, a few million adult vicims, another few million victims because of the fighting and dozen of millions that are fleeing with their children on their back.

Break it down for me, what is the math is situation?

How is the potential “goodness” score?

Hey, no fair…Making shit up doesn’t count as fact. Nice try though…What good has Austria done in the world lately? Oh yeah, nothing.[/quote]

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

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USA isn’t committing treason. They are doing the opposite. They’re trying to restore the Iraqi government.

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
blazindave wrote:
Yes, that’s why the war in iraq was such a success. Also, you did so much good with Desert Storm that it totally hasn’t come back to bite you in the ass :stuck_out_tongue:

Nam was also something where you achieved alot.

Desert Storm was a coalition of many countries… even the French. Not to mention Desert Storm was a fine strategic plan with a worthwhile objective that succeeded perfectly. It’s actually one of our better executed battles/wars.

Do your research. They got libraries up in Canadia don’t they? Or you guys just get the used books that America’s done with?

You and your stupid metric system…

A great plan which came back and bit your two towers in the ass.
MARVELOUS!

Listen hoser, you should probably already know that 9/11 stemmed from American support of Israel mixed with American troops being stationed in the Muslim Holy Land of Saudi Arabia.

Really, none of them ever cared about Iraq- if anything, they’re probably glad Saddam is gone because he was a secular dictator who opposed religion having anything to do with his rule.

So again canuck, get your head out of your ass. I supported the first Gulf War, but certainly not version 2.0. If you’re trying to argue politics, then you’d better read some books or you’re just going to keep getting outclassed.

And you’re not witty enough for one line retorts, so ditch that shit too.

I’m not arguing politics. I’m just saying, you guys fuck up alot of things with your “good”.
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And what good has Canada done as far as restoring other countries governments? Capturing terrorists? Overthrowing dictators?

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[quote]orion wrote:
pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:

For one you can count the amount of money that the U.S. has sent in aid around the world. When we do go to war with a country, we rebuild it and give it aid and support. The amount of missions are countable. The number of people treated for many conditions around the world is almost uncountable. Our efforts to combat epidemics and pandemics around the world is uncountable.
So really the amount of good the U.S. has done through out time is really not quantifiable. We have done so much, it is incomprehensible and cannot be counted.

Yes it is often incomprehensible.

Especially the patting on the back when you re-build something you purposely destroyed while killing a few people in the process.

Those people whose countries you so generously re-build seem to have a hard time being grateful.

Why is that?

It’s nice to get morality lessons from a people who used to put people in ovens because they were Jewish.

Besides, Afghanistan attacked us big time. So rather then welcome them with open arms, we hit back. Iraq lost it’s right to be left alone when they invaded one of our allies. We protect our allies, that’s why they are called allies. And Kuwait is quite grateful. I disagree with the Iraq war, but they were never the good guys. They were stirring shit. And had you buddy Saddam been a bit more cooperative, he could still be hunting Kurds from his northern palace to this day.

Austria…Holocaust…Jews…

I get it…

Now let us move on to the verifiability of America “goodness”, and what you would do to a people that applied their good intentions to your country the way you proselytize other countries.

In the US that would mean AT LEAST, 7-8 million children, dying from sanctions, a few million adult vicims, another few million victims because of the fighting and dozen of millions that are fleeing with their children on their back.

Break it down for me, what is the math is situation?

How is the potential “goodness” score?

Hey, no fair…Making shit up doesn’t count as fact. Nice try though…What good has Austria done in the world lately? Oh yeah, nothing.

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?
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So we should bow to the logic of nimrods who behead people because they read it in the Koran…Oh, OK…I am all over that, we should have been caving to the demands of islamic extremists all this time? Who’d have thunk it!

Besides, we have a flag burner running for president.

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First Austria bends over for Nazi Germany, now the terrorists. What will they think of next!?

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[quote]Mick28 wrote:
pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:
orion wrote:
pat wrote:

For one you can count the amount of money that the U.S. has sent in aid around the world. When we do go to war with a country, we rebuild it and give it aid and support. The amount of missions are countable. The number of people treated for many conditions around the world is almost uncountable. Our efforts to combat epidemics and pandemics around the world is uncountable.
So really the amount of good the U.S. has done through out time is really not quantifiable. We have done so much, it is incomprehensible and cannot be counted.

Yes it is often incomprehensible.

Especially the patting on the back when you re-build something you purposely destroyed while killing a few people in the process.

Those people whose countries you so generously re-build seem to have a hard time being grateful.

Why is that?

It’s nice to get morality lessons from a people who used to put people in ovens because they were Jewish.

Besides, Afghanistan attacked us big time. So rather then welcome them with open arms, we hit back. Iraq lost it’s right to be left alone when they invaded one of our allies. We protect our allies, that’s why they are called allies. And Kuwait is quite grateful. I disagree with the Iraq war, but they were never the good guys. They were stirring shit. And had you buddy Saddam been a bit more cooperative, he could still be hunting Kurds from his northern palace to this day.

Austria…Holocaust…Jews…

I get it…

Now let us move on to the verifiability of America “goodness”, and what you would do to a people that applied their good intentions to your country the way you proselytize other countries.

In the US that would mean AT LEAST, 7-8 million children, dying from sanctions, a few million adult vicims, another few million victims because of the fighting and dozen of millions that are fleeing with their children on their back.

Break it down for me, what is the math is situation?

How is the potential “goodness” score?

Hey, no fair…Making shit up doesn’t count as fact. Nice try though…What good has Austria done in the world lately? Oh yeah, nothing.

Nothing? They produced Horion…

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Whereas the US produced you.

Um,… We win…

Yippee?

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[quote]tg2hbk4488 wrote:
First Austria bends over for Nazi Germany, now the terrorists. What will they think of next!?[/quote]

Non fattening chocolate for the Chinese.

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[quote]orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?
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So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?

It’s not relevant to this discussion, but I think the Dark Knight addressed this issue pretty well, one of the reasons it was a great movie.

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[quote]sluicy wrote:
orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?

It’s not relevant to this discussion, but I think the Dark Knight addressed this issue pretty well, one of the reasons it was a great movie.[/quote]

Morality IS determined subjectively-

Or the pretense of morality is, which makes no practical difference…

Or have you found the way, the truth and the light and are therefore entitled to kill people to spread your beliefs?

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Nah, I only kill stuff I can eat. Hey, you forgot to answer my last question. But no matter. Go on being subjectively moral, kudos for being so enlightened you can’t tell the difference between right and wrong.

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[quote]sluicy wrote:
Nah, I only kill stuff I can eat. Hey, you forgot to answer my last question. But no matter. Go on being subjectively moral, kudos for being so enlightened you can’t tell the difference between right and wrong.[/quote]

tsk, tsk, tsk ,…

I do not kill anyone nor do I support it …

So, ???.

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[quote]sluicy wrote:
orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?
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Europeans collectively have had no balls for over half a century. I call it the “French Effect”.

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Now THIS is a great thread!

We have to admit, as Americans, that Canadians are good at picking their spots: they were with us in WWII, Korea, skipped the 'Nam, were in GWI, skipped GWII, went into the Afghan…got to give 'em credit for picking their spots.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
sluicy wrote:
orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?

Europeans collectively have had no balls for over half a century. I call it the “French Effect”.[/quote]

Give me some time to build my vast forces of doom up again.

Ok, fine, people here are too weak to even lift their guns… And no one wants to join the army anyway…

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
sluicy wrote:
orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?

Europeans collectively have had no balls for over half a century. I call it the “French Effect”.[/quote]

So how is it that they keep reproducing?

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I may be too late on this post but in case the rest of the world forgot; the UN and many other countries supported and encouraged the US entry into Afghanistan and Irag.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Now THIS is a great thread!

We have to admit, as Americans, that Canadians are good at picking their spots: they were with us in WWII, Korea, skipped the 'Nam, were in GWI, skipped GWII, went into the Afghan…got to give 'em credit for picking their spots.[/quote]

Well, they can only get their canoes so many places.

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[quote]sluicy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
sluicy wrote:
orion wrote:

And see how nobody wants to burn our flags or behead our journalists?

So maybe the good that you do is not seen as a positive by those to who you do it to?

So morality should be determined subjectively? and good=universal approval? Who cut off your balls?

Europeans collectively have had no balls for over half a century. I call it the “French Effect”.

So how is it that they keep reproducing?
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Apparently, we don’t.
At least us Germans, who seem to be dying out rather fast.
Mostly old people left over here, you may rejoice.