The 'Thin Privilege'

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[quote]mud lark wrote:
Are the same people concerned with the billions of dollars on additional health-care caused by obesity also concerned with the soda limit imposed in NYC?

If the state is picking up the burden of health-care costs, then should the state try to use laws or taxes to discourage unhealthy food choices? Alcohol and tobacco are taxed at much higher rates.

In some poor areas, there are many more cheap, bad food choices than healthy, more expensive food choices. Not everyone has the same access to healthy food. Furthermore, it’s easier to stretch a fixed budget with cheap, unhealthy food than it is with healthy, wholesome food.

This site tends to be populated by people who make exercise a part of their lives.
Perhaps, that’s our views of the general population?[/quote]

Why would you want ‘non healthy foods’ taxed since that would fuck over us cheese gobbling ravenous steak and eggs loving t-nationers in the states since saturated fat is ‘bad’ and stuff like grains would not be effected at all.

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Have you ever considered sending the message by doing the opposite of what most people here have proposed?

  1. Vote in favor of massive tax increases
  2. Let the obese get obeser
  3. Give them everything they want
  4. Watch the massive increase of people who eat themselves into amputation or coma
  5. Watch the country go to shit and realize this is not the solution
  6. ???
  7. Profit

Just a thought. I mean, why not just feed the flame (pun slightly intended) and make Darwin proud?

For the record, I don’t want fat people to die or anything, I just feel that people might get the message faster this way.

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[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
Have you ever considered sending the message by doing the opposite of what most people here have proposed?

  1. Vote in favor of massive tax increases
  2. Let the obese get obeser
  3. Give them everything they want
  4. Watch the massive increase of people who eat themselves into amputation or coma
  5. Watch the country go to shit and realize this is not the solution
  6. ???
  7. Profit

Just a thought. I mean, why not just feed the flame (pun slightly intended) and make Darwin proud?

For the record, I don’t want fat people to die or anything, I just feel that people might get the message faster this way. [/quote]\

because #5

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[quote]DSSG wrote:

[quote]mud lark wrote:
Are the same people concerned with the billions of dollars on additional health-care caused by obesity also concerned with the soda limit imposed in NYC?

If the state is picking up the burden of health-care costs, then should the state try to use laws or taxes to discourage unhealthy food choices? Alcohol and tobacco are taxed at much higher rates.

In some poor areas, there are many more cheap, bad food choices than healthy, more expensive food choices. Not everyone has the same access to healthy food. Furthermore, it’s easier to stretch a fixed budget with cheap, unhealthy food than it is with healthy, wholesome food.

This site tends to be populated by people who make exercise a part of their lives.
Perhaps, that’s our views of the general population?[/quote]

Why would you want ‘non healthy foods’ taxed since that would fuck over us cheese gobbling ravenous steak and eggs loving t-nationers in the states since saturated fat is ‘bad’ and stuff like grains would not be effected at all. [/quote]

I don’t want non-healthy foods taxed:

  1. The taxes would probably not help its intended recipients.
  2. Healthy, tax-free foods would probably be defined as those with the greatest lobbying effort/political muscle behind them such as corn (Iowa caucus).

I’m in favor of a mind your own business approach.

But if you are trying to change behavior, then sadly the stick tends to work better than the carrot. What’s better, a tax or a ban?

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[quote]mud lark wrote:

[quote]DSSG wrote:

[quote]mud lark wrote:
Are the same people concerned with the billions of dollars on additional health-care caused by obesity also concerned with the soda limit imposed in NYC?

If the state is picking up the burden of health-care costs, then should the state try to use laws or taxes to discourage unhealthy food choices? Alcohol and tobacco are taxed at much higher rates.

In some poor areas, there are many more cheap, bad food choices than healthy, more expensive food choices. Not everyone has the same access to healthy food. Furthermore, it’s easier to stretch a fixed budget with cheap, unhealthy food than it is with healthy, wholesome food.

This site tends to be populated by people who make exercise a part of their lives.
Perhaps, that’s our views of the general population?[/quote]

Why would you want ‘non healthy foods’ taxed since that would fuck over us cheese gobbling ravenous steak and eggs loving t-nationers in the states since saturated fat is ‘bad’ and stuff like grains would not be effected at all. [/quote]

I don’t want non-healthy foods taxed:

  1. The taxes would probably not help its intended recipients.
  2. Healthy, tax-free foods would probably be defined as those with the greatest lobbying effort/political muscle behind them such as corn (Iowa caucus).

I’m in favor of a mind your own business approach.

But if you are trying to change behavior, then sadly the stick tends to work better than the carrot. What’s better, a tax or a ban?

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a bans and taxes both produce substitution effects … a ban will produce the probability of a black market approach to filling the wants.

Neither of these approaches are very successful in changing behavior tbh … people still smoke cigarettes and those are taxed out the ass and banned in most public places. Weed/drugs are banned and that’s only led to violent drug dealers and formation of cartels and gangs. I’m not saying banning sugary drinks would lead to violence in the streets, but there would be some undesired behavior and there wouldn’t be a large (no pun intended) enough percentage of the population getting healthier to really offset the negative unintended effects.

I’m not sure how, but make healthy foods and reasonable portion sizes more desirable is probably the best approach to this discussion

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http://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/about/index.html

Its kind of fucked up that there is a fat lobby, next thing you know we will have some Baron Harkonen looking asshole in the white house.

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and heres some nightmare fuel for the day.

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[quote]Hell-Billy wrote:

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Extraordinary!
Go check out the forums.

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