The 'Thin Privilege'

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Fat people (by which I mean obese, not lose a few lbs, or even 30 lbs) are overwhelmingly lazy or have pyschological issues.

If I could, I would not hire fat people, but apparently thats illegal now.[/quote]

How can you get in trouble for that? Ideally you interview more people than you hire so the reason you don’t hire someone is just you preferred someone else.[/quote]

Obama’s EEOC decided that fat people who are fat without an underlying disability are “disabled” under the ADA, and thus you have to make “reasonable accomodations” for their fat asses.

In short, fat people that are voluntarily fat — not a heart condition, not diabetes, just fat because they eat too much and move too little — are protected.

Seriously. I read it here first, then my HR director told me. Then I looked it up. It’s true.[/quote]

Correct. Being a voluntary fat ass makes you protected just like Professor X for being black or you for being a Native American. (Or me for being Jewish, for that matter.)

http://ebn.benefitnews.com/news/morbid-obesity-protected-ADA-2726731-1.html

The only people you can fire at will are fit white men.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
I am 6’10" tall.[/quote]
how much do you weigh?[/quote]

298 this AM and I still look like I left a concentration camp about a year ago.

To put it into perspective, Shaq has 2-3 inches on me and 30lbs, at least when he was more fit; he probably has 40 on me now. (I have markedly less bodyfat than him.)[/quote]
How long till you can bulk up to around a lean 450?

I have a sudden desire to see you compete in strongman.[/quote]

I would love to see it, too. I’m trying.

Maybe like the fatties in the OP, I should demand they change the rules of biology to meet the obscure needs of absurdly tall ectomorphs.[/quote]

if you ever pass through canada give me a shout, i’ve been looking for a “Crew” to strike fear into the hearts of the sushi buffet chefs

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
if you ever pass through canada give me a shout, i’ve been looking for a “Crew” to strike fear into the hearts of the sushi buffet chefs[/quote]

Kind of off-topic, but why do you guys love “all-you-can-eat sushi”?

Is it because its an endless supply of rice and chicken/fish? Is it because you really like sushi? If I was going to have a cheat meal, I would prefer a big cheesy pizza or burger and milkshake.

Just saying.

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It is indeed a privilege to being able to wipe your own ass.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Fat people (by which I mean obese, not lose a few lbs, or even 30 lbs) are overwhelmingly lazy or have pyschological issues.

If I could, I would not hire fat people, but apparently thats illegal now.[/quote]

How can you get in trouble for that? Ideally you interview more people than you hire so the reason you don’t hire someone is just you preferred someone else.[/quote]

Obama’s EEOC decided that fat people who are fat without an underlying disability are “disabled” under the ADA, and thus you have to make “reasonable accomodations” for their fat asses.

In short, fat people that are voluntarily fat — not a heart condition, not diabetes, just fat because they eat too much and move too little — are protected.

Seriously. I read it here first, then my HR director told me. Then I looked it up. It’s true.[/quote]

Correct. Being a voluntary fat ass makes you protected just like Professor X for being black or you for being a Native American. (Or me for being Jewish, for that matter.)

http://ebn.benefitnews.com/news/morbid-obesity-protected-ADA-2726731-1.html

The only people you can fire at will are fit white men.[/quote]

Must also be Christian, and preferably Catholic.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

Not that hard to avoid getting fat, even when poor and over-worked.

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This is what people seem to not understand. The usual excuses for being a gross fat body are “no time to exercise and healthy food is too expensive”. All of which are complete bullshit and just another way of saying they’re stupid and lazy.

[quote]theBird wrote:

[quote]rehanb_bl wrote:
if you ever pass through canada give me a shout, i’ve been looking for a “Crew” to strike fear into the hearts of the sushi buffet chefs[/quote]

Kind of off-topic, but why do you guys love “all-you-can-eat sushi”?

Is it because its an endless supply of rice and chicken/fish? Is it because you really like sushi? If I was going to have a cheat meal, I would prefer a big cheesy pizza or burger and milkshake.

Just saying.

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well for one,

it’s glucose based carb source → lots of muscle glycogen
fish → solid amount of protein and EFA’s

you avoid crappy fats (processed cheese) and sketchy meats

plus i’m celiac so avoiding grains is vital (shitting your pants for 24 hours is a gain killer)

man i wish these people would say

“I XY disease that prevents me from being thin”

instead of some ambiguous “I have a medical condition” bit (for the most part). That might educate people, including themselves if they think type II diabetes or some garbage is a genetic problem they have that is making them fat.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]nephorm wrote:
You can be fat and not be lazy. And being fat does not give other people the right, or in their minds, the responsibility, to approach you unsolicited and give you advice about how you should lead your life.

The bottom line is that BOTH sides of this argument conflate the health risks of obesity with a moral imperative to be a healthy weight. You can have all the opinions you like about the aesthetics of being fat, or the health risks associated with it; but those opinions do not give you the right to treat other people like crap. [/quote]

Amen.[/quote]

Outside of ignorant people, most of the list in the OP isn’t that though.

The cloths size thing for example, isn’t treating people like shit. Not at all.

Again, no one should be acting like an asshole and going out of their way to yell at people from across the parking lot, or give advice without being asked, but the whole idea of “thin privilege” is redonk.

This one time, I was standing outside the bar with my girl at at the time, and some dude yelled out “fuck her, I did”. Single privilege, evil evil single privilege. [/quote]

This is not at you Beans but a rant directed at the general sentiment in this thread.

I don’t care much for the list in the url however I think you have to be blind to not be able to see the hateful shite that obese people are subject to. You won’t convince me that you honestly believe there are a small handful of ignorant people out there hating on the fatties and the rest of you are just concerned for the well being of your fellow man. The reality is closer to self-righteousness that rivals born again xtians and it is particularly thick in this forum probably because of all the former fatties and then some because you don’t think you get your ass kissed enough for being fit, as if that is some heroic feat or something. I’m going to go ahead and say this right now: working out does not make you anything more than a dude who works out.

I don’t care if it’s a choice or an excuse or whatever you guys are on about, it is simply none of your business what someone does or doesn’t make a priority and if not being fat isn’t important enough for them to work at what business is it of yours? No one needs to excuse anything because every person is free to get as fat as they want, just like you are free to bulk up as much as you want. Being fat IS YOUR RIGHT. Being respected of course isn’t but then why does anyone care at all?? Get a life and try being happy with it for fucks sakes.

Aren’t most of you right wing repub or libertarian types? What happened to mind your own business? How do you like it when the world points at you as if you are roided out small penised freaks because you are bodybuilding? Every reason you can find to point at a fatty someone can as easily point at a bodybuilder, right down to the cost of healthcare.

/rant =)

For the record, as many of you know, I’ve been on the chunky side, although never obese and then I’ve been on the lean side and now I’m on the muscular side and I could very easily slide back into being a fatty or even el chunko grande if my obsessive personality pointed me in a direction that took all my priorities away from training and you know what? I really wouldn’t give a shit or try and beg for forgiveness from the fit folks because in the end it doesn’t change a thing about my character. And because of course what I will give a shit about is the things I am focused on in place of training, which where a lot of hefty people are at. In the end I don’t think what you think you know about people is even close. Maybe you guys are just too young to know better…

but Debra we have to listen to the fat folk whine about how hard they have it, when, for the most part, it’s their own damn fault.

I mean the above comment that obesity is now treated like a disability in America doesn’t shock you? That you could eat your way to 400lbs and expect the world to make accomodations for you like you’re somehow the victim of a great tragedy? I don’t think that’s fair on the rest of us.

And I don’t agree that bodybuilders cost the healthcare system as much as obesity, that’s a ludicrous statement for which you can’t possibly have any evidence. I’m from the UK where as I’m sure you know we have the NHS. Obesity is one of the countries main health concerns. I’d bet dollars to doughnuts that bodybuilding isn’t in the top 100.

For what it’s worth, I AM a libertarian type, and believe people can do whatever the hell they like as long as it doesn’t affect anyone else. Well, the obesity epidemic DOES effect everyone else, so I think these people should accept some personal responsibility.

Agreed. Fat people are free to get as fat as they like, but they had better not whine to me about how hard they have it. It’s like going on a winter hike, and someone doesn’t bring a coat and bitches incessantly about how cold they are and expect me to make accommodations for their dumb ass. If it’s your own fault, you better keep your goddamn mouth shut.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
That whole site should be nuked.

From orbit.[/quote]

I think it’d be a lot more fun if it was raided by T-Nation trolls, like was once done on a certain knitting site.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

Not that hard to avoid getting fat, even when poor and over-worked.

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This is what people seem to not understand. The usual excuses for being a gross fat body are “no time to exercise and healthy food is too expensive”. All of which are complete bullshit and just another way of saying they’re stupid and lazy. [/quote]

Yeah, the “I’m too poor” argument is invalid. Isn’t less food cheaper than more food?

[quote]debraD wrote:
I don’t care if it’s a choice or an excuse or whatever you guys are on about, it is simply none of your business what someone does or doesn’t make a priority and if not being fat isn’t important enough for them to work at what business is it of yours? No one needs to excuse anything because every person is free to get as fat as they want, just like you are free to bulk up as much as you want. Being fat IS YOUR RIGHT. Being respected of course isn’t but then why does anyone care at all?? Get a life and try being happy with it for fucks sakes.
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It is also my right to judge you for getting fat, or anything else I want to judge you for, and should be any business owner’s right to hire or not hire whoever they want.

[quote]debraD wrote:
You won’t convince me that you honestly believe there are a small handful of ignorant people out there hating on the fatties and the rest of you are just concerned for the well being of your fellow man. The reality is closer to self-righteousness that rivals born again xtians [/quote]

I’ll be 100% honest.

I really don’t have the energy to be all that concerned for my “fellow man”, so that isn’t where my comments come from. (I know you weren’t 100% directing this at me). And I’m certainly not self-righteous, as I have more faults than most.

My problem, like others have said, is the bitching and moaning. If you are happy with yourself, STFU and go about your day. If you are unhappy, change your situation. I’m just beyond tired of people and their entitled attitude like the world needs to bend over backwards for them because of XYZ.

The world doesn’t owe you shit just for being alive. You have to give something to the world in order for it to owe you respect. And no, waddling your fat ass to and from the candy aslie isn’t giving something to the world. Neither is lifting fucking weights, so please don’t think I’m giving a free pass to ass munches that think big muscles earn them instant respect either.

Point being, I really dont’ give two shits if someone is a fatty or bone thin, as long as they are happy with themselves, we have no problems. I get pissy when people bitch and moan and expect the world to accomidate them.

How about no?

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
but Debra we have to listen to the fat folk whine about how hard they have it, when, for the most part, it’s their own damn fault.[/quote]

I have to listen to you guys whine.

They’re not fat their full house.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Correct. Being a voluntary fat ass makes you protected just like Professor X for being black or you for being a Native American. (Or me for being Jewish, for that matter.)

http://ebn.benefitnews.com/news/morbid-obesity-protected-ADA-2726731-1.html

The only people you can fire at will are fit white men.[/quote]

The Man is always trying to keep us down.

If you want to get fat then get fat but it should not come at a cost to others.

Where I work I see tons of fat people every day with healthcare problems. Lots of these problems (I would say almost all) would be avoided by simply not being so over weight. The vast majority of them are on Medi Cal, Medi Care, SSI, disability etc etc which means us taxpayers are going to foot the bill for their ambulance ride, ER visit, hospital stays and surgeries/medications (if needed)

This is absolute horse S if you as me. Being overweight, for the overwhelming majority, is due to a series of choices and those poor decisions shouldn’t cost the rest of us BILLIONS of dollars.

That’s my gripe.

Oh and when I see overweight kids. I hate that. They are just little kids that dont know any better… thats just terrible parenting.

bottomline is that being obese is not good for you and cannot be justified by any means, if my tax dollars are paying for someone else’s stupid choices then i can complain as much as i want to. Do people afford the same respect to alcoholics and drug addicts? no they get slated as bad if not worse why should obese people be excluded? how would we respond if drug addicts started a crack acceptance campaign?