The Tactical Life

The current state of this nation is such that being outwardly patriotic is seen as “choosing a side”. You are either “with us” or “with them”. There is apparently no room for for someone to be proud of his/her country while at the same time being able to acknowledge its faults and work towards making it better. It sucks.

Unrelated… I really wish i knew of some closer-by redneck ranges. I have a .22 takedown that i throw in my pack when hiking or doing trailwork way out in the woods, and i know of multiple turnouts off of logging roads up in the mtns that have been turned into redneck ranges, but they are all 1hr or more away. I just have a fundamental issue with being forced to pay each time i want to go plinking, but would like to practice shooting a little more.

My town took down the Columbus statue temporarily to keep it safe. Or more likely to keep anyone who tried to damage it safe.

Also, there was an online petition for the police department to take down its blue lives matter flags, and they did. Then there was an online petition requesting that they put them back up which garnered even more signatures.

I think things would shake out a lot differently in elections and referendums about defunding the police, for example, than the woke vanguard would like. But the damage is done.

The political prosecution of the officer in Atlanta by a politically ambitious DA, for what is a legit shooting is going to have a massive chilling effect on police response across the country, and low income neighborhoods will suffer the most. And I think the people of those neighborhoods understand that.
But, as I said in the other thread, nobody voted for it, it’s just a few loud mouths and a rage porn addicted media.

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Thought for the day:

good man

I was cleaning my EDC handgun and realized that I don’t often comment on the care and maintenance of firearms, neglect on my part. For novice firearms owners, you need to realize that firearms are mechanical devices, just like you lawnmower or vehicle. And like all mechanical devices, it needs to be kept clean and replace parts if necessary. Just like changing the oil in your vehicle a firearm needs to be taken down and cleaned after an extensive range session. You never, ever, want to carry a firearm for protection that has not been properly maintained.

This is especially important for your EDC handgun. A lot of people, including military and LEO’S, are some of the worst offenders in not checking their carry gun. They are under the misguided impression that just because you don’t shoot a handgun, means that it doesn’t need cleaning. Wrong. Just like your clothing picks up dirt with wear, so does your handgun. Lint, dust, sweat, holster wear, etc., all contribute and where does that crap go? Into your handgun slide and frame. After standing behind a student whose cheap ass pistol blew the slide off after a failed squib load, I always check everyone’s handgun/ carbine before training. Before a scheduled qualification round with agents, I actually found an agent carrying a handgun that had a spider web in the barrel. No shit. He was sent back to his office.

Don’t be that lazy, check your carry gun on a weekly basis. As far as cleaning supplies, that is your choice, but, for economics and performance, I have used Breakfree for years, along with Hoppes and Remington cleaning products. There is nothing wrong with using WD-40, since they changed the formula, as long as you use it lightly.

A comment on “squib loads”. A cartridge has 4 components: brass casing, primer, powder and bullet. A squib load is when during the factory reloading process, the powder is not loaded. This is rare, but, I probably see about 3 a year. Once the cartridge is chambered and struck by the firing pin, the primer will ignite , but, does not have enough power to push the bullet out of the barrel, thus, you have a bullet stuck in the barrel, with another coming down the pipe, not good.

If you spend enough time training in firearms, you can subconsciously hear that weird little pop sound (if you are close enough) and scream for everyone to halt, if training by yourself, learn to notice that sound and the lack of recoil. Always carry a short and long cleaning rod, a small plastic or brass tack hammer. If this happens to you, break your pistol down, remove the barrel , spray in a little lubricant and gently tap the bullet out. The best way to protect yourself from squib loads is use good quality ammo. Cheap ammo, especially made in Russia, are the worst offenders, in my experience.

I am listing a link to Hoppes YouTube cleaning series. Well worth watching.

Since I am taking about cleaning weapons, here are some things I have seen with foreign troops:

Don’t clean your weapons with hardened lamb grease.
Don’t clean your weapon with 30 weight motor oil.
Don’t clean your weapon by pissing down the barrel.
Don’t clean your weapon using dirty diesel fuel.
Don’t take the magazine out of your weapon and using the housing for an ash tray.

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@idaho
After a lifetime of globe hopping, at what point do you see vigilante groups popping up in the absence of policing.
I’m not saying the US is either there or going to be there, but it doesn’t seem so far fetched all of the sudden.

I know you didn’t ask me, and I would be interested in the answer, but I believe in safe towns there will be police. That defunding/abolishing crap won’t fly there. They have low crime and have police and they (we/me) like it that way. I have never heard anyone say, “we don’t have a lot of crime, let’s get rid of the cops.”

If it were to happen in larger cities or in certain (ghetto) neighborhoods in those cities, I think it won’t be vigilante groups keeping the peace but Lord of the Flies meets ISIS. There will be no schools because no teacher would want to work there (they already have trouble finding teachers). There will be no businesses because who would want to open one there and what insurance company would cover them. EMTs and fire won’t enter those places. Landlords won’t be able to get insurance and will either sell their properties (who would buy them?) or just abandon them. I don’t think the abolish the cops droids have any idea how the real world works.

Interesting timing on your question and I will explain below. I can only speak from experience in the places I have worked.

“Nature abhors a vacuum” is attributed to Aristotle and I have seen this in other parts of the world, where the central government cannot hold control and the populace has lost faith in the government. A good example is the Helmand and Kandahar provinces in AF, where the warlords rule with impunity or the vast states held by the drug cartels in Mexico. Yes, I know, extreme examples, but, a breakdown in the rule of law started this all.

There are around 800 thousand police in the United States, do these defund the police idiots plan on taking their place? No, I don’t see this happening on a national level. I do see a future increase in private security for those with money. The most important issue these defund the police idiots have not thought about, it is the police that provide the protection for economic security. No police, no business, no money. No business owner would even consider moving to a “police free zone” . Wonder if the major corporations in Seattle are considering a move since their city has no leadership and the police have been castrated. Depends on the bottom economic line.

What also concerns me is when you have a breakdown of the law, like in Seattle, where “people” have establish a “no police zone” then who is in charge? I have been concerned for several weeks of a major terrorist incident in places like these no police zones. The Muslim extremists must be delighted to have the US distracted while they slip a kill team into some police free zone. What are MS-13, Antifa, Aryan Nations or just a simple active shooter think about operating in Seattle? Or any other city along the same stupid lines?

Now why I said your question was timely:

This morning when I left the gym, someone had stuck a flyer under my wiper blade. A bold headline stated the following: Are you going to stand by while the Communist and Fascists destroy everything you have worked for? Are you going to stand by while the Communists and Fascists destroy your small business? Are you going to live in a place with no police, no government and no law? What are you going to do to protect your community, your family, your business? Think, it’s time for us to decide, not the USG, they have failed us.

Holy shit was my first thought.

Totally agree. Amazing the mount of stupidity going around.

There are two types of defund the police types, useful idiots, who seem to be the majority, and the “we need to burn it all down” types. The burn it all down types are some of the big drivers of this movement, and they know what is going to happen when we defund the police, it’s what they want.

I heard an interview of a historian who said that right now we’re in 1968. The cycle of violence is only going to go up, and the economic fallout could easily last another decade, and more in the big cities. I don’t know what the solution is, when you’re negotiating with people who aren’t honest players.

Can you elaborate? Who are the dishonest players driving this movement that stand to benefit from expected violence and economic recession? Do you know where you heard the interview?

This turmoil has little to NO bearing on the big moneymakers in Seattle. Tax rates do, as well as the viability of the new massive office buildings with most folks telecommuting now. A 6 block area of the gay-bar nieghborhood is not the main money maker for seattle. Some would argue what Durkin did was the kind of leadership that Seattle citizens want there. I also think there would be significant pushback from citizens if the CHOP starts expanding past the most liberal section, of the most liberal neighborhood of Seattle.

I fail to see why muslim extremists would target the CHOP when it would be easier and more harmful to the psyche of america to commit an atrocity, pretty much anywhere else in the country. A side effect of your dystopian vision of Seattle’s future would be more people owning and carrying firearms and a reinvigoration of support for the 2nd amendment.

Antifa. Have you not heard that our nation was founded on racism and genocide, and is therefore irredeemable? This is not the politics forum. But there are many videos of peaceful African American protestors trying to stop white kids from vandalizing private property. Those are bad people acting in bad faith.

I’ll just point out that this is the Tactical Life thread, not the “I think your concerns of lawlessness are overblown” thread. I get it. Seattle is your turf, you think things are generally fine in the CHAZ, but we’re not just talking about Seattle here.

It defies logic to imagine that criminals of all types wouldn’t gravitate towards, increase operations within and operate more brazenly in places where they can do so with reduced risk of consequences. Anyone who has raised children or even done a decent job with their dog can explain how this works. This is just picking up steam, who knows where we’ll be a year from now.

I hesitate to use the term “vigilante” group, but I’ve kind of joined one. I’m not sure what else to call it, but we’re a network of concerned and capable citizens who are ready to protect the neighborhood to the extent that we are able to. We don’t have any specific reason to believe anything will go that far south, but we’ve got a call list set up if things play out that way.

This is another great reason to train. You meet people who are serious about what they do and you really get to know someone a lot better when you train with them, no matter what you train. You don’t normally think of relationship-building as a tactical consideration, but it really is.

Who knows if everyone’s ready to answer the call or not, but at least this is a start to organizing security and agreeing on the basic mission of “protect the neighborhood if we need to”.

I’m not the one who brought politics into this FWIW, but general point taken.

Are you concerned about the rise of these militias/vigilante/neighborhood watch groups leading to instances of wannabe cops creating and escalating problems? I would think that as-important as the weapons training would be making sure everyone knows the laws surrounding citizens arrests and legal force. Otherwise it would seem to be easy to have more Trayvon Martins or Ahmaud Arberys on our hands.

Yes.

That’s why we have a thread like this.

Thought for the day: "Your training should match reality"

The definition of the word Practical is: of, relating to, or manifested in practice or action; not theoretical or ideal.

The odds of getting in a gunfight against ten static enemy combatants while wearing your plate carrier and warbelt are relatively slim as a civilian.

*Then why are so many people “training” like this? Well, it’s largely for the same reasons people play video games, watch action movies, etc. A lot of people are living out a fantasy on the range.

Without a doubt , this is one of the most frustrating problems you can encounter. You usually spend at least wasting one training day on attempting to alter attitudes.

Taking this type of information and adapting training to become as proficient as possible in the elements that have a higher likelihood of occurring in real life, means that less time is wasted on fantasy scenarios. And a higher PRACTICAL skill level can be reached.

DRAW FROM CONCEALMENT

Drawing your pistol when it is covered by clothing, in a bag, or however you personally choose to carry it, is a complex skill and requires a lot of practice. I know it takes longer to run drills from concealment than having a warbelt, OWB holster, etc. But the fact is, that’s probably not how you carry every day. You don’t want to be messing around with your shirt for the first time when you need to draw your pistol quickly.

A common misconception. People tend to think they are as proficient and fast drawing from concealment as they are on the range. Not. Whatever method you choose to carry is not going to be as fast to deploy. Do you go to food store wearing a tactical belt and thigh holster? If not, you had better starting practicing from your method of carry.

A common technique for getting clothes out of the way is to extend the thumb of the firing hand, place it under the article of clothing, and use a sweeping motion to ensure that the will not interfere with drawing the pistol. The most important part is that you practice both dry and live fire, with the type of clothing that you wear.

Draw Stroke is the term used to describe the path that the pistol takes from the holster to being fired. This can vary tremendously based on the person and their training, but efficiency and accuracy are key. There are very few people in this world that are fast enough to “outdraw” someone who pulls a gun on them. So instead of working on your quick draw, you may want to consider how you are going to react if you hear gunfire in the building you’re in and work towards drawing the exact same way every time.

Good situational awareness and already having the gun in your hand is faster than any method you choose to practice.

Dry fire practice is a great way to increase your draw skills, but remember to focus on consistency and not worry about breaking speed records right off the bat. Speed comes with practice.

Dry fire training is (IMO) is one of the most important elements in learning how to shoot and it constantly amazes me that people ignore this. How many times do you throw a left jab or practice an arm bar to become proficient? Thousands? Yet most rarely practice dry fire drawing for concealment.

Shooting and pistol manipulation with one hand is largely overlooked by most civilians. Surprisingly, a vast amount of people who have had to use a pistol to defend themselves have had to do so with one hand. This is because the world is still going on around us. There is a multitude of things that may require your nondominant hand to be used for something other than supporting your pistol. For instance, carrying my 8-month-old daughter, opening a door, applying a tourniquet, etc. Practice drawing as well, using only your firing hand to clear clothing

Please, read that twice.

MALFUNCTION DRILLS

I’ve seen countless people have their first malfunction and stop to stare at the pistol in disbelief. It’s not an “if” but “when” when it comes to malfunctions. Guns are mechanical devices, and any mechanical device has the potential to fail. If this occurs when you need it to keep you alive, then fixing the issue should be instinctive because of your training.

It doesn’t matter how hard you stare at it, that stovepipe isn’t going to fix itself.

I have seen this many times, learn malfunction drills. You don’t want to be in a violent situation and you cannot clear a jam. You need to be able to let your hands and subconscious mind do the work, while you seek cover and still maintain your attackers location.

Because you cannot predict what type of malfunction will occur, becoming familiar with the different types and how to correct them is an invaluable skill. One of the best ways I’ve found to replicate malfunctions is to have a friend load your magazines and randomly place expended brass of the same caliber throughout your magazines. Unlike the popular Snap Caps that are commonly used for this type of training, brass will not produce the same type of malfunction every time. This will make you react to what is happening instead of being able to smoothly fix the problem.

Good drill, with a practical outcome. I have run this drill before and the amount of confusion on the line was both amusing and disheartening.

TRAIN TO REACT

*Too often people train using drills where they shoot 1 or 2 rounds, perform a magazine change, then fire another round. These drills have some merit, but they aren’t practical for defensive shooting. Practicing the same drill over and over again makes you better at that drill– that’s it. Repetitive practice improves speed, and you’re able to complete the drill without much thought. in a real-life situation, you don’t get a reset. You react to what you’re given and make the best split-second decision possible. Instead of practicing to beat a buzzer, practice seeing what your sights are doing and what you see on the target.

But if staying alive in a situation is more important to you than winning a competition or getting likes on social media, then it becomes to take a hard look at whether or not your training is practical.

Please, read twice. Be honest. Are you training for real life? or acting out some fantasy?

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Figured you might appreciate this, Idaho. I’ve been wanting to get one of these for me & the kiddo for a looooong time.

And Yeah, those are jelly beans. I only like the orange and yellow ones. :relaxed:

When he develops some proficiency we’ ll move up to black beans, then maybe 1/4 20 nuts.

Those are good slingshots, I have three and use them several times a week. I have been scoffed at before for shooting them but, it teaches concentration and focusing on the target, valuable skills that can be carried over to firearms.

You taught me something, never new that jelly beans could be ammo, damn, I should have thought of that.

Thought for the day: I posted this on the other thread, thought it might be useful here.

Picking a home defense weapon is a complicated issue because of so many factors involved, like the example you mentioned. Yes, a 5.56 will penetrate almost all modern housing walls, but, it has a hard time with mud built goat huts in AF. You are not over estimating potential of the round, but, in the right situation even a .22 will penetrate a wall and cause damage.

How much have you trained? because accuracy and ammo selection is more important than weapons. I teach CQB, so, one of the most frequent factors that occur in a kill house is how to maneuver you carbine in tight quarters. A situation you need to think about, because, you will be engaging in tight quarters in your house.

When choosing your primary weapon, consider the your floor plan. Where do you children sleep? If someone enters the home, will your children be in the line of fire? Your weapons selection is only one part of the equation.

High quality weapon and with the right fragile ammo, minimum risk for rounds flying through the neighborhood, if and this is a big if, you can hit the target. How are your reloading skills? 3 mags with your HK is “high capacity” and with good skill you can put a lot of rounds out in a short amount of time. You need more than this, then you are facing a kill squad, not the average criminal.

I have had a different overall experience, yes, it is an accurate round at moderate distances, yes, with hard ball ammo it can penetrate a person and keep on going but, I have seen guys shot with 9mm hard balled ammo that went through and kept on going. From my experience, it does not go deep at certain ranges. There is a reason the Army is developing a mid range caliber for the new squad weapons.

IMHO, this is my list:

  1. Handgun in 9mm, .40 or .45 , attached flashlight and three magazines of high quality ammo
  2. .12 gauge pump shot gun with extended magazine and flashlight attached.
  3. AR type carbine with flashlight attached… Note: you decide on a AR platform, don’t spend 3000 dollars on a tricked out weapon. Spend under a 1000 and use the rest for high quality training.

I am listing some information you may find useful in making a decision. The handgun ammo selections are from Dave Spaulding, one of the true experts in the field.

Ballistic Magazine – 28 Aug 15

8 Experts Pick Their Home Defense Weapon of Choice - Ballistic Magazine

We asked firearms experts like Paul Buffoni, Frank Proctor and Bill Wilson what they use as their own home defense weapon.

9mm: Federal 124 or 147 HST. You do not need +P velocities with the HST bullet design. I would use the 147 in 4 inch barrels or longer, the 124 in shorter barrels. The 147 is VERY accurate, but if all you want is “minute of chest cavity” at 15 yards and in, both are a good choice.

Speer 124 +P Gold Dot. The NYPD load as well as many federal agencies. Again, the street results speak for themselves.

115 gain all copper hollow points by several manufacturers. While I only know of a couple of shootings, this load is VERY promising. Yes, it is expensive due to how it’s made, but it performs like a bullet of heavier weight. The testing is very good as well.

.40 S & W: I just don’t hear much about this caliber any longer. Based on past experience, I would choose Speer 165 Gold Dot or Federal 180 grain HST. Again, street results from years past. (John’s note: .40 is dying, 9mm has killed it, more rounds per magazine and just as effective with less recoil.)

.45 ACP: Federal or Speer 230 grain HST or Gold Dot. The old Federal 230 grain Hydra-Shok was a REAL good load in its day…I have no reason to think it has regressed.

I just have way too much fun with them!

I brought out my old Crossman 10 pump and gave my kiddo a run through on safety, sighting breathing and trigger squeeze from prone position, but he just wasn’t really getting the sights thing. I don’t want to drill him on any of this stuff because he’s 7. He just wants to make the pop can go “ding”.

So, slingshot! I too believe it helps to develop an intuitive sense and knowledge of “make this hit that.”.

I am giddy about the jellybean thing. Jolly Rancher. They’re awesome! :grin:

But it will be part of a progression from this to recurve bow, then likely compound bow, pistols and rifles. He’ll have a well rounded skill set, and can choose what he likes (if any) as we go.

We’ll see. It’s one of the things that I had a lot of fun with and developed a sense of accomplishment from as a kid.

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