Hey @idaho, I wanted to get your opinion on rucking.
Lol. Too bad that was dude’s take away from getting killed by a ‘weak’ man. You’d like to think that somewhere under all the ego he’ll go home and process that and make some changes. Iknow from experience that’s unlikely, but it’s still what you’d like ti think.
Lol i love it 
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Taking my rifle would humiliate me enough. Let alone tossing my butt through the air and taking my pistol too.
Most SEALs and other “operators” aren’t big dudes. My cousin just went through Ranger school, big kid. 6’ and 220lbs. He had to go twice in a row because he got injured 1st time. Lost 30 lbs.
Prey tell how does one train for stun grenades? I know our enemies lately aren’t well equipped enough to use them. Do entry teams use sound deadening ear plugs? And ballistic glasses?
It’s typical of heroes to not discuss their own heroic actions as if they were anything special. He said he was doing what he was supposed to do. He risked his own ass to save a brother, and yes it’s heroic and he deserves the CMH, just saying I’ve never seen a hero with an attitude other than, “I was just doing my job.”
We should all take note, that when a job endangers our life, someone may well recommend us for a medal we weren’t trying to win while doing it well.
When I had to do if for qualification, I looked at it as just something to overcome. Now, that I dont have to do it, i really enjoy the ruck, it is one of the things I look forward to going back to the states. Once I left KAF, I had no sizeable safe area. Just make sure you have a good pack and boots. I am posting a couple of links for you to study:
Rucking Tips Refresher: Practice, Practice, Practice | The Loadout Room
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One really doesnt, but, you can become de-sensitized to the noise enough to function, but, its the light that will get you killed. Taking a bull blast with direct vision will leave you blind for over minute.
Yes. and my hearing is permanently damaged from being young and stupid. Yes, glasses are a must, googles are good for dusty shit, but, I was never comfortable with them, because, they always fucked with my peripheral vision.
Here is a few sources for you:
http://www.tacticalhearing.com/product-category/hearing-devices/
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Thought for the day:
With strength of conviction I repeat the words of one of the greatest of Founding Fathers and a signatory to the Declaration of Independence …“let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” —Thomas Jefferson
Some Saturday cleanup. Passing on some links I received over the past week. New SIG, plenty of knives, boots, and one hell of a motorcycle challenge ( Damn, wish I was on that one).
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/22/sig-sauer-launches-mcx-rattler/
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Para -Ordnance is not highly thought of in the 1911 community.
Basic way to look at it, 1911’s are like Ferrari’s. When it’s tuned just right and everything is on place, you can get some really high performance out of it.
But when it’s not …
Thought for the day:
All my respect to the law enforcement agencies, fire departments, US Coast Guard, the Army National Guard, Fema , the American Red Cross, and especially the “average” citizen who has stepped forward to save those in need. Long Live Texas.
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Motivational Monday
"There is no such thing as a bad day, only a poor mindset. Any day above ground is a day to keep pushing. There are many who would do anything to be in your place rather than 6 feet under…“Another Monday, how will I ever make it to the weekend?!” Shut up. Put in the work.
And keeping with the theme of staying above ground:
The Tueller Drill Myth: Why The 21 Foot Rule Isn’t a Rule At All
By Chad McBroom
The March 1983 issue of SWAT Magazine contained an article titled How CLOSE is TOO Close? by Dennis Tueller, a Salt Lake City Police Officer. The article is generally credited for first establishing the importance of the “reactionary gap” within Law Enforcement circles. The article addressed Tueller’s own experimentation, which determined that the average healthy adult male can cover a distance of seven yards (21 feet) in about 1.5 seconds.
The significance of the time factor is based on the reasonable standard that a person who’s trained in proper pistolcraft should be able to draw a handgun and place two centered hits on a life-size silhouette at seven yards in about 1.5 seconds. Before I go any further, I want to point out that both the distance of 21 feet and the time factor as addressed in Tueller’s original article, were both approximations based on training experience; nothing more.
As the popularity of the relationship between reaction, response, time and distance (as presented by Tueller’s article) increased, people eventually began referring to the demonstration of these principles as the Tueller Drill. Caliber Press further popularized Tueller’s work when they referenced his article in their book, The Tactical Edge: Surviving High-Risk Patrol, where they coined the term “reactionary gap” and demonstrated the application of Tueller’s principles in their video Surviving Edge Weapons.
Somewhere along the way, the term “21-foot rule” started getting thrown around in Law Enforcement training circles. However, neither Tuller nor Caliber Press ever used the term “21-foot rule.” To this day both Dennis Tueller and the folks at Caliber Press have denounced the notion of such a rule.
The worst part is many trainers and publications have misled their trainees and readers to believe that they are automatically justified in shooting a suspect armed with a knife simply because they were 21 feet away. On the flip side, the implication of such a rule has led others to believe that they wouldn’t be justified in the use of deadly force against an attacker further than 21 feet away. The truth of the matter is the justification of deadly force all comes down to objective reasonableness and the totality of circumstances.
The Reactionary Gap
The reactionary gap is the distance needed to react decisively and effectively to a given situation. There is no definitive answer as to how far a reactionary gap should be and things like terrain, physical conditioning, situational awareness, skill level and the nature of the attack can affect the required distance.
With edged weapons, the reactionary gap may be much larger than you think. A study conducted by the Force Science Research Center concluded that most trained individuals (their study used police officers) were at a severe disadvantage against edged-weapon attackers within a 21-foot perimeter. This is where the drill comes into play as a training tool.
The “Drill”
As stated earlier, the Tueller Drill wasn’t a drill created by Dennis Tueller, but a name applied to the demonstration of the principles identified in Tueller’s article. In fact, by true definition, what’s typically labeled as the Tueller Drill isn’t even a drill, but a quick draw competition.
A role player armed with a knife stands seven yards away from a person armed with a gun (usually a police recruit). They face off as the “shooter” stands at the ready, waiting for the knife-wielding attacker to make a move. As soon as the attacker begins his charge, the shooter draws his or her weapon and goes “bang, bang!”
The action halts as the charging attacker stops dead in his tracks because the shooter went “bang” before he could reach them, or worse, the shooter gives up because the attacker got there before the “bang.” If the shooter was a thinker, they may have had the foresight to side step the attacker, but it’s relatively rare.
There are a number of problems with this approach to this type of drill, but what it does do is reveal the number of training scars that have accumulated over the years. A training scar is a negative trait that’s come as a result of bad training practices. The scars were already there; the drill just revealed them. I’m going to address some of the causes of these training scars so we can hopefully avoid them in the future. I’ll also explain how to optimize the Tueller Drill by making it an actual drill.
Training Scars
When was the last time you shot while moving on the range? Chances are, you’d probably have to answer, “never.” If you’re one of the lucky ones that does have the opportunity to shoot on the move, you’ve most likely been limited to lateral or perpendicular movement in relation to the target. Why? Safety.
Most range facilities, especially those accessible to the public, would blow a gasket at the mere thought of someone moving on the firing line. As a result, most trained shooters have spent all or most of their trigger time squared up on a static firing line. For this reason, most Law Enforcement Officers and civilian gun owners step in concrete the minute their gun leaves the holster.
I have witnessed thousands of law enforcement recruits and seasoned officers alike being chased around the mat room by assaultive role players, only to stop and square up against their threat(s) the moment they draw their firearm. What changed in the dynamic? Nothing except the escalation of force. The very moment when movement was most critical is when they stopped moving. This is a training scar that develops from limited movement on the range.
Drilling the Drill
Every combative drill has at least one flaw that comes as a result of the need for safety during training. The path to overcoming those flaws begins with the ability to identify the flaws so we can develop and use other drills to compensate. Of course, those drills will have their own flaws, but the key is to train as many facets as possible through various drills. We can actually use the Tueller Drill to fill in some of the holes, if we do it properly.
To capitalize on the Tueller Drill, we have to get rid of the “Bang! You’re dead!” mentality. From my observations and experience with running this drill, I believe this is a deeply imbedded conditioning that most men have. Most of the time, the women will continue to fight, but the men will go “bang” and stop. Why? Because men were once little boys playing cops and robbers and they have been mentally conditioned to stop and play dead when someone goes “bang!”
The drill should play out for at least 15 seconds, with the attacker continuously pressing. It takes time for a wounded attacker to lose the blood volume necessary to shut down the system via hypovolemic shock. Assuming the aorta (the largest artery in the body) was severed, it would take roughly five seconds for an average adult-sized male to sustain a 20 percent blood volume loss.
Even in cases where the heart stops, there’s enough oxygenated blood in the brain to support voluntary action for 10 to 15 seconds. Allowing the drill to continue beyond the “bang” forces the participant to fight through the attack until the end and helps eliminate surprise they might experience when their firearm doesn’t stop an attacker immediately.
Getting Off the X
During any contact weapon attack, distance and mobility are your biggest allies. These are also the areas where I see people fail the most. Most people I’ve witnessed participating in the Tueller Drill just stand flat-footed as they draw their weapon against their charging attacker. As I mentioned, some will actually attempt to side step or backpedal. This type of footwork never proves to be very effective. You can’t step and slide in any direction faster than your opponent can run. Your only real option is to run!
Turn opposite your gun side and begin at a 45-degree angle to offline the attacker and force him to change his direction of travel. Draw your weapon and engage the threat as you move. Don’t worry about establishing a two-handed shooting grip. The priority is mobility, not stability. Moving in a circular direction will force your attacker to slow his movement in order to adjust his direction. This buys time and distance. Terrain is going to play a factor in your movement, but the principles remain the same.
Conclusion
When properly understood, the Tueller Drill can be a viable drill to fill in some gaps in your training. While we tend to focus on edged weapons with this drill, it can be applied to any contact weapon. You can also play with the starting distance by making it closer or longer than 21 feet. Throw in obstacles too, our environment is seldom flat and open.
Edged weapons training is always a bit of a conundrum. There are so many myths and false expectations that surround the subject. It gets even worse when we introduce firearms into the equation (“I’ll just shoot him”). Hopefully, I’ve given you some tools to make you more successful in your training, but more importantly, more successful in your survival.
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Anyone want to tell me why a piece of cake suddenly appeared by my name? and how to get it gone? thanks
anniversary?
Joining aniversary
Good read. One variation of that drill I took part in was, IMHO, pretty good training. It was done with simunition pistols and a bag over the officer’s head. The officer wasn’t told ahead of time, “we are doing Tueller drills today.” Instead they were blindfolded, walked into the centre of a fair sized room with mats on the floor and told to respond to what they see when the hood comes off. There was no stopping until the threat was addressed.
An actor in Blauer High Gear with a training knife would then rush them. The majority of trainees would start moving their feet even before they started drawing. I believe this was because the drill happened in the context of mixed shooting and hands on scenarios where the outcome wasn’t predetermined.
As a result trainees didn’t think, ‘I’m in a race to get my gun out and shoot this guy to “win” the drill.’ Instead they thought, ‘shit, this dude’s charging at me, I need to do something.’ Responses varied from backpedaling and shooting, sidestepping and shooting, J hooking and shooting (which worked really well), grappling and shooting, and a very occasional pistol whip (which was the least pleasant for the actors).
The biggest common take away was that mobility is life. Which is much more useful than 'a guy with a knife is gonna get you from inside 21 feet.
J hooking?
I didnt read the whole article, but it seems that a good working weight would be where you can knock out 15ish dead hang (or more if desired) pullups and max other strength levels at wherever the bw is that allows the pullups to be hit. IOW - your lower body 1rm will be less than if you allowed yourself 30 more lbs of bw, since that weight gain might cut your pulls in half.
Run offline to open up a gap fast then “J hook” back on target.
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