[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
please re-read my initial post. the amount of slang i used is minimal. And quite frankly you’re a fool if you don’t think saying “Certainly” is a better idea than “oh fa sho” in a business setting. Just like you do not use contractions in an essay, i’m not going to use slang in business interactions. [/quote]
You mean your language changes based on the context in which communication is occuring?
That’s whack!
You should talk to your girlfriend the same way you’d talk to your boss; which is the same way you’d talk to your grandma; which is the same way you’d talk to your training partners.
Otherwise, you’re being “offensive” or “condescending” or something.
[quote]Aleksandr wrote:
As for the clothing being discussed, I do have a problem with it being called “urban”. I live in the very downtown core of Toronto, and the only people that I ever see dressed like that are obviously from the suburbs, coming downtown to “floss”, as we used to say in my day. I would describe it as a very suburban style, indeed.[/quote]
Right on target. The 781 area code is strictly suburban.
Wiki: “Under the North American Numbering Plan for telephone area codes, area code 781 covers suburban Boston, Massachusetts. In particular, it covers Arlington, Braintree, Lynn, Winchester, Melrose, Saugus, Revere, Malden, Burlington, Norwood, Waltham, Woburn, Medford, Lexington and other Boston suburbs along Route 128.”
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
LOL @ being called a wigger for this type of culture when a lot of it is influenced from skateboarding and japanese trends.
and european techno scene, also late 70’s, 80’s, and early 90’s shit.
there’s a reason retro jordans are so popular.
leave it to the cool kids they’ll have people rockin pagers again.
in all honesty the trend lines have crossed so much the things that seperate a skater from a hip hop kid and a emo kid are basically just your hairstyle and how tight your jeans are.
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lol dude even in the Black Mags video one of the dudes is wearing fitted jeans. first time ive ever seen a black person with fitteds in my life.
and yea between Fam-lay’s Hit Me On My Beeper and Cool Kid’s Pager Song im like reliving when you were the shit if you had a pager lol. i bet someone is going to make a crazy one for like $300 that can text, play games, email, surf…but no calls, cause its still a pager haha.
I know what “vernacular” means. You might. But I don’t think you know how to use it properly. You used it as an adjective for “speech patterns.” At best, that’s redundant. At worst, it’s gibberish.
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Oh dear. I’m afraid you’re considering an alternative usage. Why don’t you take a look in a dictionary?
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
well Mr Wikipedia have you ever been to Lynn, Revere, Malden or Braintree?
also i go to school with a lot of people from Boston (Roxbury, Dorchester, Mattapan) and they dress same way too.
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Actually I have. That’s why I find the pretense of this thread laughable.
So, because you wear what your schoolmates from Boston neighborhoods wear, that makes you urban by association? That makes as much sense as guys who wear Affliction T-shirts are ultimate fighters.
well the places i named are pretty much considered urban, my city alone has 3 housing developments, Bowdoin, Newland St and Linden, it hasnt been a classical suburb since the 70s or whenever the Orange Line came. thats besides the point though
if you go to any place that sells the type of clothes theyre classified as “urban” it is what it is, get over it. i dont know why youre so fixated on semantics, regardless of whether i live in fucking alaska or brooklyn the name doesnt change.
if you have a problem with white people being involved in a fashion style influenced BY white people (although not solely) i think you need to kill yourself.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
well the places i named are pretty much considered urban, my city alone has 3 housing developments, Bowdoin, Newland St and Linden, it hasnt been a classical suburb since the 70s or whenever the Orange Line came. thats besides the point though[/quote]
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
anyway whoever said juelz is should be mad for lil wayne kinda bitin his style… i agree. But you have to admit that the style is easily copied its just assimilies and alliterations, its so simple its stupid but the creativity of the bars themselves is what sets lil wayne apart.
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yeah it just seems like wayne at one point took dipsets entire swag and style but he has since evolved past it and you can see that dipset did influence him but there also is others who helped
this is the song i was talking about before
-“hate me like Im adolf, but yall cant see me ray charles”
here is some trae and z-ro…
btw camron needs to come back as much as ppl didnt like him he is definatly one of the most entertaining rappers out
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
well the places i named are pretty much considered urban, my city alone has 3 housing developments, Bowdoin, Newland St and Linden, it hasnt been a classical suburb since the 70s or whenever the Orange Line came. thats besides the point though
Rough place Malden.
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no one ever said it was rough. wtf? just because a place has a low murder rate doesnt mean shit about the demographic financial situation. why dont you go google Lawrence. its one of the most torn up places ive ever seen, every house is covered with graffiti, everything is in spanish, but you know what, they didnt have any murders last year (or year before)…so i guess by your standards it isnt considered urban anymore.
what the fuck does any of this have to do with the original topic either? this thread is about music and clothes, not crime statistics or whos hood is the hardest, get the fuck outta here with that shit.
i dont really fuck with Zro and Trae. that Swang song was hot but idk they arent really on that swagger tip, theyre more about lyricism.
as for camron, i agree he needs to come out but i heard his track “glitter” a while back and shit was fuckin gay…so hopefully he doesnt come out on that direction. but really if he comes out soon he needs to do something different to stand out because theres a lot of competition out here and with C3 coming out no one will eat.
on another note heres the latest pair of Dunks i picked up
I’m a thirtysomething redneck but I do own some hip-hop clothes… it’s nice to be able to just buy pants in my size and know they will fit. Certainly can’t do that in any “stores for white people who have desk jobs and no glutes”. I’ve also got a couple of hoodies and a ridiculously patterned button-down shirt I picked up from a hip-hop store.
I do want to join a hip-hop band which needs a live bassist but that’s more to expand my skills than because I like it better than any other music.
that reminds me of something i wanted to bring up but forgot about.
what do you guys thinka bout the statement that “hip hop is dead”?
IMO thats complete bullshit, all hip hop did was change, its constantly evolving and changing and thats all that happened. no one said hiphop was dead when it changed from 1980s 1 word raps and breakdancing to gangster rap, no one siad it was dead when it turned to party music in the mid 90s or when people started rapping about money like Jay-Z. Basically Jay-Z isnt Big Daddy Kane, and Nas aint Ice Cube. Theyre all so different but no one was like wow hip hop changed up now its “dead”, but all of a sudden people in the Bay made hyphy and the South started doing their own thing and basically after witty lyricism and stroytelling fell out for good everyone got their panties in a bunch. i think thats fucking gay and Nas is a bitch for getting all emotional cause no one wants to hear his whack shit. Right now people want to just rap about having fun, getting money, and looking fly, if you dont like it too bad go dust off your Tribe Called Quest vinyl cause hip-hop aint dead, youre just old.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
that reminds me of something i wanted to bring up but forgot about.
what do you guys thinka bout the statement that “hip hop is dead”?
IMO thats complete bullshit, all hip hop did was change, its constantly evolving and changing and thats all that happened. no one said hiphop was dead when it changed from 1980s 1 word raps and breakdancing to gangster rap, no one siad it was dead when it turned to party music in the mid 90s or when people started rapping about money like Jay-Z. Basically Jay-Z isnt Big Daddy Kane, and Nas aint Ice Cube. Theyre all so different but no one was like wow hip hop changed up now its “dead”, but all of a sudden people in the Bay made hyphy and the South started doing their own thing and basically after witty lyricism and stroytelling fell out for good everyone got their panties in a bunch. i think thats fucking gay and Nas is a bitch for getting all emotional cause no one wants to hear his whack shit. Right now people want to just rap about having fun, getting money, and looking fly, if you dont like it too bad go dust off your Tribe Called Quest vinyl cause hip-hop aint dead, youre just old.[/quote]
Music about having fun, getting money, and looking fly is disempowering. Yuo end up with kids spending thousands of dollasr on clothes in order to look like their heroes, and don’t have money to put a down payment on a house, don’t have money to pay their rent if they get laid off, and don’t have money to ever really “retire”. Hip-hop went from being descriptive of the problems people face to pretending everything is peachy. Peachy sells more. Borrowed platinum and cubic zirconium sells more. Driving a car in the video and having to return it after the shoot sells more.
I have a friend that is “obsessed” with shoes. He spends thousands getting every new shoe that comes out, not to mention all the other clothes he buys. He works three jobs to buy all this shit, and he’s always broke as hell. Guess who has a higher net worth? Between me and this guy, who do you think has the better stock portfolio? Who do you think could come up with a down payment on a house within a week without breaking sweat? Who could afford to not work for a year without changing his quality of life or borrowing? Who is going to be able to retire?
Hip hop has become more commercial than ever, and the poorest are the ones trying to buy the dreams their favorite artists are selling them. Go ahead and listen to your little kiddie shit about getting money, but when people say there’s a cancer in hip hop, listen. They might know what they’re talking about. Then again, why should you care?
People have been obsessed with shoes for a while now. I know what you’re saying, but there has been irresponsible spending going on for lo these many decades before “flashy hip hop.” The problem isn’t that hip hop is brainwashing people to spend money (if rap didn’t do this tv commercials would - its fact that we live in a society that places value on “things” and you can’t blame that on rap). The problem is that it gets old hearing the same beat and the same lyrics and the same topics covered over and over.
That’s why I thought The Cool Kids “Black Mags” song was cool. I’ve not seen any other rap songs about BMX. However, this is a problem with commercial music in general, not just rap. If because of this rap is dead so is rock, etc. Commercial music is “dead” so to speak because its crap. For the majority of my life, radio music has been horrible so I don’t know that this hasn’t always been the case.
flavadave is totally right, America has always been a materialistic society that places value on what you got because thats ow you obtain status here whereas in other countries theres royalty and status, like in another country you could be broke as fuck but still be in a higher “class” over here its not that way. I learned about that in my American Culture class, chea.
i wish Black Mags came out 10 years ago when i was actually into BMX, had a Dyno with black mags and watched Props on VHS.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
flavadave is totally right, America has always been a materialistic society that places value on what you got because thats ow you obtain status here whereas in other countries theres royalty and status, like in another country you could be broke as fuck but still be in a higher “class” over here its not that way. I learned about that in my American Culture class, chea.
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The issue isn’t money and it’s associated status. The issue is worthless garbage that’s passed off as a sign of wealth, but only to those of low status.
So you go out and spend all your money on a 24" chain. But you are still broke as hell, and have extremely low status. In fact, you are now even poorer, and have even lower status everywhere except among other extremely low status individuals.
Poverty in the US and Canada would be eradicated if all of a sudden people started bragging about how much more they earn because of their higher education, how many business they own, or how big their investment portfolio is. The problem isn’t the materialism, it’s how the materialism is directed at consumable goods that do not give the status they promise. This happens more and more all the time.
I would disagree with the idea that hip hop is dead, but there is definitely a troubling trend.
Poverty in the US and Canada would be eradicated if all of a sudden people started bragging about how much more they earn because of their higher education, how many business they own, or how big their investment portfolio is.[/quote]
LOL at talkin bout whose hood is the hardest…i would probably say the hoods in Afghanistan and Sudan and Iraq probably have the most murders in their hood…A “ghetto” in america would be like a mansion over there…
And also about Hip Hop is Dead, i agree with you Livefromthe781, it just evolved and you gotta evolve with it.
if you dont like it too bad go dust off your Tribe Called Quest vinyl cause hip-hop aint dead, youre just old.
^^^HAHAHHAHA
One more thing tho about Wayne…One reason i like his shit because his flow is sooo unorthodox…Some bars he’ll rap fast, then he’ll just switch it up and have a line with only like 2 words in it.I hate rappers where they sound the same every song or have the same flow.
^^ have you guys heard the new Young Jeezy feat. Kanye - Put On…Kanye uses the T-Pain voice enhancer thing. What is that i wanna use that shiit…If anyone has a program called Cool Edit Pro and they know if you can do that enhancer on that program, please tell me.
Hella rappers usin that shit now, even wayne and birdman
