Agree with thunderbolt wrt Kavanaugh, but to reference my Schrodinger’s Cat point once more, I think Kavanaugh was fine pre-hatchet attempt.
Well, at least with Collins’ “yes” white women get to shoulder some of my guilt now. I think I’ve read “white men” and “old white men” more in the past 2 weeks than I ever have
Given your opinion of him has changed AND you don’t assign blame to believing he commit sexual assault, do you think it’s a good or bad thing you no longer support him?
I know squat (heh) about the law. I knew squat about Kavanaugh, until he showed the kind of person he is by the way he reacted. Bork got Borked, but he held up as a dignified individual.
But supposedly Kavanaugh’s judicial qualifications are solid. If he can keep his professional abilities and his asshole tendencies separate (some people have that ability), it’s still good. If not, bad.
I would like to compare his record / performance to a high achieving kid that has done something stupid, like host a huge party when parents are out of town.
But in reality, doing a stupid thing really does not limit itself to youth - does it?
I don’t find a fault with defending oneself against the hatchet job Kavanaugh faced. Particularly when considering (according to GOP more than all previous nominees combined) he was submitted almost 1300 written questions, coupled with days of verbal questioning in hearings, and 6 six! prior FBI background checks.
Retired Justice Stevens: Stevens said he once thought Kavanaugh “had the qualifications” to be a Supreme Court justice and even lauded Kavanaugh in one of his books for a ruling on political contributions. “His performance in the hearings changed my mind.”
And this is why it was foolish for 'Da 'Dems to go all desperado on Kavanaugh. Stevens was nominated by Gerald Ford, and ended his career as the leader of the Liberal wing of the court.
More recently, and famously, Justice Roberts was appointed by GW Bush, and basically passed ObamaCare by saying “I see what he meant, even though that’s not what he said”, LOLLL.
Agree 100%.
With that said; his confirmation will most likely be today.
Again; it looks like the GOP continues to win where it counts.
2 Likes
Seriously l do not get you guys.
So you are saying mob rule wins over legitimate process? Or there are some perfect nominees who match your fantasy of perfect jurisprudence and a sinless life?
The animals in the street and hard left are emboldened by your complicity, and burning society to the ground. Enjoy your fiddle sesson.
Senator Collins used neither a ‘presumed innocent’ nor ‘presumed guilty’ mindset in reaching her decision; rather, she went with ‘more likely than not.’ And while I disagree with that criteria, it offers a real-world counterexample to the notion that ‘presumption’ of one sort or another exhausts the possibilities re how one can approach a situation such as this.
No, you’ve mixed it up. The “presumption” - whichever way it goes, innocent or guilty - establishes who carries the burden of proof but it doesn’t establish the standard of the proof. “More likely than not” is the civil standard (far lower than the criminal) that the person with the burden of proof must satisfy.
According to Collins, the burden was on Ford, and she failed to provide enough evidence satisfy the MLTN standard.
I think they’re saying the events that caused the curtain to be pulled away from Oz don’t change that they can’t unsee it. Seems to be a fairly popular opinion atm
1 outburst versus 25+ years of judicial background.
This is a greater leap of faith than l can summon, in pronouncing his character doesn’t measure up to whom - Christ?
1 Like
All I care about is his current fitness for SCOTUS. I couldn’t care less about his wild years 35 years ago - to me, that’s all immaterial. No one should be judged for the behavior in those years (unless they broke the law).
And in my view, he moved himself down a notch by his shamelessly partisan performance.
The Democrats shit all over the process - and I think they may have cost themselves a Blue Wave in how they handled this - but that doesn’t change the fact that I think we need someone who can demonstrate the impartiality needed for a lifetime appointment.
And, as an aside, Kavanaugh is an establishment poster boy - privileged prep school brat, Ivy League pedigree, etc. What happened to taking on the establishment and getting them out of our institutions?
1 Like
Yeah, but all the other Justices before passed the “you’re dangerous and evil and I will oppose you from the start…Oh yeah, you’re also a blackout rapist” pop guiz part of the job interview.without a rise in inflection or a smidgen of combativeness. So we have all those prior instances to make a comparison…
You believe the outburst unveiled a partisan nature worthy of more weight than hundreds of written opinions, l don’t.
Not sure where any nominee is available to offer a totally unbiased rendering of the Consitution. But since the validity of it (Constitution) is also questioned, where does that leave us? No absolutes, so each doing what seems right to himself.
Regarding establishment, it is true that l favor an up and/or out policy for politicians.
That would require term limits at all levels and branches. It appears to be a pipe dream. Thus, the realist in me says he is better than the activists judges overstepping their boundary at every turn.
Heh. Funny, I believe the partisan nature of the process was unveiled and the “job interview” bull-huckey put to rest. For some reason Kavanaugh was supposed to play oblivious idiot to something everyone else knows. A smiling simpleton. He didn’t make it partisan, he pointed out reality. It was already partisan even before Democrats were leaking the Ford allegations.
I’m not with you on this point, @Sloth…
In his rant…Kavanaugh pointed out his perception of his interpretation of reality.
And it came out loud and clear…
2 Likes
The man was called EVIL by a member of the committee. And that was BEFORE Ford’s allegations broke.
Are you telling me he wasn’t subject to a partisan lion’s den? Really?
When did I even imply that?
I’m pointing out that it isn’t just his perception or an interpretation of reality. It IS reality…