The Supreme Court Fight is On. The Divide Worsens

It’s more like scoring more points than the other team only to find some other metric (rushing yards, completions,etc.) determines the winner.

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That’d only be applicable if they didn’t know the rules before hand, which they did.

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This needs double emphasis.

Where have you folks seen this demonstrated?

No it’s like getting more offensive yards than your opponent and losing because you scored fewer points. The rules never changed. The campaigns don’t campaign for popular votes, they campaign for electoral votes.

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Nothing.

Trump is Making America Great Again, and the World a much safer place.

Why should I; or any of us; be worried?

A couple of polls have shown the enthusiasm advantage the democrats had (which was +10 or so before this) has shrank to a +2, which is a shocking increase.

Also, the Republicans had disastrous polling among women, which has shrank considerably also. I’d need to check the polls again, but some had the +35 advantage among women shrink to a +10 and others had it shrink from a +15 or so to a +2.

No telling if this a genuine trend till more polls come out.

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Source for enthusiasm gap.

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Also, it is an outlier poll, but IDB/TIPP had D+2, and the generic ballot lead average has shrank. Now, I don’t think Kavanaugh can be said to be causative of this, nor do I think the actual lead was ever as large as reported.

Chance of D taking the house is ~3/4 according to Nate Silver, and the reverse is true for the Senate.

Now that I actually think about it, it’s more like disregarding the final score and awarding the victory to the team that won the most quarters.

Analogies aside, there are 2 fundamental camps. The camp that thinks the candidate with the most votes should win the election, and the camp that think some artifice should be placed on top of the raw vote count to determine the winner. You’re on one side or the other, and it’s unlikely a guy on a forum will change your mind.

I’m obviously in the first camp. The result of the current system is that voters in swing states have disproportionately more influence over election outcomes than voters in red states or blue states. Candidates (rightly so, given the system) will prioritize the concerns of those purple state voters over the concerns of most Americans.

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.

But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, ‘whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,’ and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.“

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Failing to get a seat on the SCOTUS is not ‘punishment.’

Wow. Keyser, Ford’s friend says she felt pressured by Ford’s allies to revisit her statement.

Who was applying pressure, specifically? Former FBI agent Mclean. You’ll remember her as as the person Ford’s old flame indentified as receiving instruction on polygraph’s from Ford. Which is important because Ford answered no to questions about having ever given instruction on polygraph examinations
. Friend of Dr. Ford Felt Pressure to Revisit Statement - WSJ

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I’m amazed at this discussion and how tribal the opinions are. Another change to the country that will be decided purely along partisan lines. As someone who doesn’t identify with either party, I find it amusing how people’s views sync up so perfectly with their party of choice. Critical thinking is truly lost.

Hopefully something like this can happen, but I doubt it’s possible with how much attention the extreme ends of the spectrum get:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/10/04/more_independents_in_the_senate_--_please_138252.html

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Speaking for myself, not so. Didn’t vote for Trump, still think all of this is partisan bullshit, and rather pathetic partisan bullshit.

I turned 18 in '96, just in time to vote for Ross Perot. Still thought the Monica Lewinski “scandal” was pathetic partisan bullshit, and that the American People should have thrown tomatoes and rotten vegetables at the Republicans for making a big deal about nothin and at CNN-ABC-NBC-CBS for playing along and pretending it was worth our time.

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Kavanagh has cleared the first Vote; with the second (and final?) vote Saturday.

Congrats to the GOP for continuing to win where it counts.

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I’m on the fence about this guy tbh … from what I’ve read he’s not a very big 4th amendment advocate and that’s a problem for me … conversely, maybe Sotomayor will rub off on him … she seems to be very friendly of the 4th … which is nice

WHoa whoa whoa, he’s a married man. Sotomayor better not “rub off” on him. Sheshhhh…

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lol … based on the accusations towards the man, and depending on how many beers he has, he might be into that…

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HaHaHa, @polo77j!

I was thinking the same thing as @anon50325502!

We don’t want Kavanaugh downing some brewkies and rubbing one out in the presence of his SCOTUS Colleagues!

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