The Stupid Thread 2 (Part 1)

Why? And what “standard of self preservation” do you believe on-duty officers should have?

They are humans, so yes.

I guess you think you are more human than they are.

Meanwhile, the majority of the time, the use of force was completely justified.

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I think they voluntarily signed up for the known dangers of the job. Part of the job is knowingly putting themselves in harm’s way to protect and serve, they are trained in violence, armed and have legal powers beyond an average citizen and as such they should have a greater burden to use lethal force and force in general. How to quantify how much greater that burden should be, I’m not sure.

So, you believe not only that they should indeed accept “the known dangers of the job,” but that they should also have less right to defend themselves than people who can disengage, flee, and avoid?

Yes, I think they should need more reason to defend themselves with lethal force than an average citizen. Cops are also free to disengage, or retreat, and in some cases that’s the right call.

Why? How does that make sense to you?

Legally(edit: usually…I think one of the Deputies at Parkland was actually criminally charged), but often not professionally.

I’m not sold on this one. A private citizen has no obligation to step into violent situations, cops do.

But cops also have a bunch more power than an average citizen. With such great power should come a greater responsibility towards the safety of the public over their own personal safety imo.

Explain, please.

Word in court is given far greater importance than average citizen, qualified immunity, responsible for evidence collection, etc, etc.

I am not sure their safety is separate from that of the public’s. Meaning them dying in the field reduces public safety.

I think they should have to have reasonable risk to themselves to use deadly force. I hope stuff like body cams reduce police violence to only cases in which deadly force is justified.

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Is that legal doctrine? If not, how have you determined this?

That’s not a power.

That’s not a power(and private citizens actually have greater “power” when it comes to evidence collection).

Yep that’s a good point. And goes along with the issue of using deadly force to prevent a possible future crime to another member of the public where they are not in imminent danger for their life eg jacob blake.

Body cameras are great and I think they will continue to shape how we view and revise laws regarding justified uses of force going forward.

Not according to BLM.

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Drugs. Lots of drugs.

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Not sure if this is stupidity or brilliance…

Impressive either way lol

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Stupid for his employer for sure

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This man is my hero. 400k per annum for sitting on his hoop. Behold the efficiency of the civil service everyone!

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It was Italy so really not that hard to do.

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Just watched Yes, Minister this week, where they have the recently built 500 employee hospital, but can’t afford medical staff so as to open.
Italy got their own Sir Humphrey?

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