The Stupid Thread 2 (Part 1)

Agreed. But a draft means a pool of millions to pick from. Why would the military put women in the front lines if they aren’t cut out for it in a real conflict?

I bet it wouldn’t be anywhere near close. Just like I’d bet it’s nowhere near 50/50 on women in combat roles today now that they’re allowed in

Edit: AND by the time that would roll around, I’ll be the rich white guy. Those people’s kids don’t get drafted. I’ll get her a bone spurs deferrement 6 ways to Sunday

So this is my reply to both @dchris and @anon50325502

Going to be short, have to go to a breathwork session, lol.

Yes, life is hard. A colleague of mine just gave a kid a zero on a paper because he cut and pasted it. He ended up with a 57 for the quarter, but a 75 for the semester.

Mom was horrified, reached out to the teacher, is there anything he can do, he’s an athlete, has scholarship opportunities, she’s dying from stage four cancer.

We’re pretty clear about cheating. It’s a zero, period. and we have them sign an Academic Integrity Sheet.

He admitted he was just tired and didn’t want to do it so he cut and pasted.

Policy is a zero.

The dying mom went to the AP, and he said it was up to the teacher, maybe she could give him extra credit, lol.

My chair stepped in and said no, it’s a school policy.

The mom went to the principal, had a meeting yesterday with the chair, tears, death, scholarship, etc…

Kid’s maybe a D3 prospect.

What’s she teaching him?

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Because the majority of people that are drafter end up on the front lines. They aren’t drafting to fill admin positions, generally. Maybe some, but not the majority.

Well, no because the military is mostly men and women have very recently had combat roles opened to them.

Would you bet that new women starts are roughly 50/50 into combat?

That he’s special and that the rules don’t apply to him. We called this being setup for failure in the Corps.

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Maybe she just wants him to be POTUS one day…

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Fixed it.

Yeah, my take exactly.

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Specifically, in the case of a draft during WWIII, yes. Non-draft conditions, no because men still dominate active duty personnel as far as I know.

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To me, this is an extenuating circumstance that an accommodation can be made. I lettered in four sports, so I saw my fair share of douche bag athletes that didn’t deserve a second chance.

Given his mother’s situation, I wouldn’t feel bad about giving him SOME leeway. Kid’s probably trying to act tough, while dealing with his dying mother.

Booooo

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LOL! I’m not saying give the kid a good grade. I mean, if it’s a good kid and this is uncharacteristic for him, maybe some leeway. if he’s a shithead, then, ya, I agree ‘Policy is Policy’.

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Even this is pushing it for me. Imagine going to such lengths to water down the career his peers are trying to build.

“Well rules are rules, but this guy is amazing at playing a game. He shouldn’t have to work as hard as his peers for his diploma.”

Kid’s not a prospect at all, mom is playing it up

I lettered in two sports as a freshman. He’s not a player, and cheating is never okay. If you make an accommodation for him, there’s a hundred other kids that want an accommodation.

If you let him make it up, you condone cheating.

That being said, I would have caved, give the kid a hundred, fuck it, not worth it.

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Yeah, he’s not.

I’m can be an emotionless asshole at work. That’s really my job. However, if someone continues to fail, I’ll ask if everything is ok personally. If they say yes, then I will push harder. If they say they just had a miscarriage (for example, this happened recently), I’m a bit more sensitive and will call their boss and ask to give him help. Another example is a civil engineer’s daughter died in an accident. Dude went silent for 3 weeks. I asked if something happened personally, he said yes and explained. I was still pissed, but a bit more sympathetic.

D3 prospect? No way. D1? Sure this will be glossed over. Hell UNC basically had a cheating class for athletes and the NCAA didn’t do anything to them.

Being an athlete doesn’t change my position. Also, making it up wouldn’t be my solution.

Spitballing here: my solution would be to have him meet with a school counselor and then write a paper and give a presentation to the whole class on X. Essentially, making him do more than was originally required and not receive full credit.

Would you offer that to all caught cheaters moving forward?

No. Again, this is barring he’s a good student who isn’t a shithead.

As I know the follow-up from you and everyone on the other side of my opinion: what about other cheaters… Well, my response is simple… “Your son/daughter has demonstrated that this is a routine behavior. Due to the continued bad behavior in class, cheating, etc. policy is policy”

I wouldn’t be opposed to having some type of leniency for a first time offense with zero tolerance after that. I think a lot of us if we are being honest cheated at some point in our academic career.

That isn’t to say zero is a bad thing, just how I see it. I like the idea of more work like dc said.