Let’s be very clear here. This isn’t about being vulgar in choice of language. I’ve noticed people continue to treat the issue as if it was about him simply using offensive language to describe a woman’s looks or something. “Look at those tig ole bitties!” Nope.
For the record, if I was for Trump this wouldn’t sway me either. It’s his complete lack of a platform, absurd ideology, and general lunacy that gets me.
No doubt, in the end it’s not like I was supporter. But what it will do is make him look absolutely absurd using “But Hillary is anti-woman because…” as a last ditch effort.
These are at least defensible positions.
Harping (not singling you) on this is tiresome.
Yes. I could give you 10,000 extemporaneous words on the awesome majesty of my dick.
But stuff like “grab’em by the pussy” I haven’t said/heard since high school. He was, what, 58? I’m not saying it’s disqualifying – as you know, I think he’s DQ’ed on substantive grounds – but it’s a little more than locker room talk.
Just saw that you mentioned an edit? Will find it now.
x2. In a way, this is a gift for Trump, right? Now we get to spend another week deciding whether “grab them by the pussy” was describing sexual assault or just entitlement of a rich man instead of whether he’s actually at all capable of running the country. So far his policy positions seem to come down to “I can beat ISIS” and “I’ll get the jobs back” and “slash everyone’s taxes.” It’s surprising that he hasn’t offered double recess and a soda machine in every classroom.
But, still…
x2 on this. I tried to post this same thing earlier. It’s not just because he used the word “pussy” to describe a vagina, people. It’s that a guy with a near-continuous pattern of shameful and disrespectful behavior towards women somehow actually has people defending this and parsing apart whether it was just “locker room talk” or whatever other lame-ass phrase we can use to describe it. Guys! Is it really that unreasonable to expect someone we’ll be voting on as the potential leader of our country to NOT talk about women like a virgin frat boy who got rejected at last night’s kegger?
I plead Nolo contendere, your Honor. ![]()
Again… Strawman. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT, not even the lame stream media
There is a huge difference between “Wow, I’d love to motorboat Sally” and “I motorboat chicks all the time without them asking for it, dont even wait, they want me to”
Now, I dont actually think he necessariy admitted to grabbing women by the pussy on the tape, it was likely a comedic exaggeration, although I do think he admitted to making unwanted physical advances such as kissing them without asking, which could include the grabbing. Knowing Donald he probably did though.
They arent “just words” as he has said, they are words describing his actions.
Trump can broaden his base by bashing any minority for any sin / infraction he un-factually cares to claim ,
“many people are saying”
The “Stop and Frisk” , illegal, unaccountable, aimed at whosoever, above the law, self justifyingly ruthless against the “others”
Does the word GESTAPO mean anything to anyone here?
Congratulations - you yourself made my point.
You left out the entire paragraph before that where I essentially defended him. That was “locker room talk” about what I personally think he has done.
And your point was that guys talk about those type of things in private, thus Donny should be free and clear presumably. I was speculating on his specific behavior, after I stated that he didnt even admit to doing the things the media is accusing him of doing.
Mistook the Strawman statement…
I don’t condone what he said.
He looks foolish saying profane things at his age, x2 to some random non friend reporter.
He can be attacked for many failings other than a smartass I kiss 'em and could grab their pussy.
This is a gotcha release that is foolhardy for the press to be up in arms about.
My whole point is what if you and some guys are drinking a beer and busting balls, it gets recorded, and 10 years from now you can’t get on the school board? Why because you lied about the Smith twins bsing with drinking buddies.
If you could explain to me how he is racist, with emphasis on how Mexican is a nationality, Islam is a religion, and he questioned Cruz´s qualification to be president on the same grounds he questioned Obama´s.
Plus, if you care about women so much, explain to me why Hillary´s destabalizing a whole region, with all that entails for women is less upsetting to you than the simple statement that there are lots of women who are total sluts for money and fame.
Finally, it would be sexual assault if you did it, not necessarily when he does it, because a rather large subset of women just wants him more, way more, so much more that he can simply grab their pussy and they squeal in delight.
And finally, finally, no one needs to respect such women and especially not if they are married and are on the quest for billionaire tycoon alpha dick and all the republican white knights that are coming out of the woodwork well, pro tip:
If you want to defend a woman´s honor, better be sure there is something to defend.
I agree there… I have a group text message on my phone that I would probably be in prison for if it went out to the world.
I think the Rascist label has been used much, much too often and really lost most of its meaning. It used to mean you literally thought a particular race of people were inferior and not deserving of right just because of their race, now its a catch all phrase to mean you have done something, anything really, that had something to do with anyone that isnt from your exact ethnic background.
Although I do suspect Donnie has a bit of the good ol’ boy mentality and is … “set in his ways” shall we say. I dont know that I would call him a full blown racist though. From what I have seen he just has a way of expressing himself that is sensational and makes him come off poorly, which is not a trait a president can afford to have.
But that is part of his appeal.
Tons of people are so fed up political correctness and this whole racist, sexist, anti-gay spiel…
Well here’s the thing, maybe he has never grabbed a woman’s genitals without some form of consent (because his fame gives him consent). Maybe he ran his mouth, exaggerating, and didn’t quite understand what he was claiming. How it sounds…Well, like he goes around assuming he can just grab some vagina and it’s all gonna be good 'cause he’s famous. Which is what he pretty much said. But let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and he’s never done this, and didn’t realize the image he was conveying while exaggerating his Alpha maleness.
Oh well. He wanted/need to make a hail-marry pass with regards to sexual assault, respect for women, and the Clintons. Now he turns into the fatally flawed messenger (let’s not forget he called Bill the victim, and trashed those same women).
He may have lied, exaggerated, whatever…But that’s all his fault.
Just a little nostalgia. This is from an Op Ed called, And the Winner is… Bill Clinton. The premise being that Bill has effectively sold the idea that “as long as a man never pretended to be a choirboy, his sexual life has nothing to do with his fitness for office.”… In this sense, Donald Trump is the new Bill Clinton.
- Nina Burleigh is a liberal feminist reporter who covered the White House for Time.
In a 1998 essay for Mirabella, Burleigh described an occasion aboard Air Force One when she noticed President Bill Clinton apparently looking at her legs, the piece led to her being described as “the Ally McBeal of former White House reporters” by columnist Ellen Goodman. Approached by a Washington Post media reporter to discuss the Mirabella article, Burleigh’s on-the-record-remarks commending Clinton’s policy on abortion rights were widely considered the most sexually explicit ever made by a premier journalist, writing that “I would be happy to give him a blowjob just to thank him for keeping abortion legal. I think American women should be lining up with their Presidential kneepads on to show their gratitude for keeping the theocracy off our backs.”
What Trump said is despicable. And so is Bill Clinton and Nina Burleigh. And Hillary for hiring private investigators to go after Bill’s accusers, and personally trying to destroy them.
That said, I agree with what’s been said about Trump. I had decided LONG ago that he wasn’t fit for office. That has nothing to do with this latest tape.
Is anyone calling personal sex life is being called into question?
What is being said is that he tends to take the moral high ground when his behavior is clearly showing the opposite(No one respects women like him… Except for when he cheats on his wives, tries to fuck married women, and makes advances on women who havent hinted they want him because he is rich and powerful)
And the behavior and language he uses about women show a clear lack of respect and judgement about the matter, and may eventually be reflected in his policies… Like how he said women should be punished for having an abortion.
I’m not sure what your news clipping there has anything to do with Clinton, Bill or Hilary… It was a quote from a news reporter, not either of them.
Well, I would agree that he is unfit for office.
Alas, he is running against Hillary.
Now, we must decide who is more unfit, the orange menace or someone who is a known liar, criminal and corrupt to the bone.