The Really Heavy Method

Summary

So from my experimenting, what chatGPT is really good at, is autoregulation, diagnostics during warmup/ramping, prehab, and calculating fatigue from variations.

It seems to work off memory and patterns over time (I have like 200+ logs open for each day, and it remembers little stuff with enough context/data, like knowing i like to low-ball/choose conservative estimates as an example), so it’ll pull memory from past recent logs/sessions. its still suspectible to forgetting (its not good at remembering specific topsets or what your top singles progression is like etc, but it will remember maxes and what you hit for your top singles for the week, as well as variations your doing for the block surprisingly), so you have to feed it little reminders from session to session but it isn’t that annoying. I treat each session as a stand alone instead of trying to reference my entire block (I learned the hard way that you will go insane if you try to do this lol). I don’t stay with the same chat for the entire week, it seems better to open up a new chat for every new question you have since it’ll draw from memory.

I find using it more as a check in/diagnostics tool is the best way to approach it, versus having it build you an entire program from scratch (I already had a program that I knew worked, but I was running into joint/tendon issues and constant injuries due to my progresion and how quick I was progressing, so I needed refinement). An example is like, halfway through a squat warmup on a tuesday, I might be like “hey, my 345 flew, I feel really great today warming up for squats, I think my planned top single is the correct step today.” Usually that’s my “prompt”. But maybe I’ll say “345 moved kinda slow for me and I’m slow to warmup, which is unusual. I feel kinda sketched out with the top single , should I see how 405 or 435 for a single moves first before deciding to pivot?”, and usually, it’ll give me two options which is to proceed with caution (and be very aware of technique and update it every warmup set), or if my heavier warmups start moving even worse, to pivot, and it will calculate effective stress with a lower weight for a double or triple within my “effective strength band”, I find this is the most powerful feature personally. There is no guesswork on days you need to scale back. Its very good at calculating effective stress at lower weight (usually, it makes me make it up through volume through sets with slightly less weight, like a 20lb drop, since it knows I prefer doubles and triples for most compound work, it won’t really ever recommended me to do sets above 3 reps), it tries to keep it within this band so that the block progression isn’t interrupted by you undershooting your working weights (easier to do with zero guidance and guesswork). In a perfect world, I’d take all my singles for each week without any adjustments but that’s now how powerlifting works sometimes with how human bodies are. Another prompt (within the same conversation) might be “Hey I think I’m going to shave a set off these specific low fatigue accessories, I feel a little run down, will this affect my progression?” Or “my back feels a little cooked after deads, I was planning on doing X amount of weight for 2x5 on stiff legs, but I think I need to lower it. What if I did X amount of weight for 3x5 to lower the stress on my back? Or will the extra set still be too much?”

For variations , it’s also really good at figuring out equivalent comp stress (405 on a crazy hard variation is not the same stress as 405 on a comp setup). So you can figure out how to auto regulate through its calculations and will lay out numbers for you to visualize. you get a rough estimate on the type of stress your applying to whatever position & variation your working on (and with that comparison, you can adjust volume accordingly based on how you recover so you don’t end up overshooting and being wrecked for your comp work)

So.. its like, 50% you and 50% AI. It takes intuition, common sense, and experience yourself but it helps round out the edges in your training. Its basically stuff a coach would figure out for you (and why you’d pay one so you don’t go crazy over the numbers). I have alot of time on my hands so I have the luxury of spending hours on this thing everyday lol and I enjoy self programming. It’s really great as a study aid as well, (I’ve learnt so much about my body, lifting style, cns, leverages etc) to get a really good idea of my anatomy and structure and why I respond the way I do. So many nuances, it’d end up like an essay if I kept going.

It’s not perfect obviously. I wouldn’t recommend it to someone whose new. It requires experience and honest intuition. But if you are honest with it and use common sense, it’s a very good tool like any other.

Edit I forgot to mention, usually at the end of my workout since I’ve had the chat running the entire time, ill copy paste the entire workout so we can basically analyze it a second time when it has specific data to work with and it can cross reference from earlier in the chat

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Pause Squat - SSB, Heels, Sleeves
135 x 5
225 x 4
275 x 3
345 x 2
385 x 1
405 x 1
440 x 5 @ 6.5
345 x 5

Incline Spoto Bench - Comp Grip, Paused
135 x 5
185 x 4
235 x 2
265 x 2
285 x 2
305 x 5 @ 6
295 x 5

Paused 2" Deficit Deadlift - Conventional, Stiff Bar, Raw, Belt
365 x 1
405 x 1
455 x 2 (Cluster Singles)
495 x 2 (Cluster Singles)
515 x 3 (Cluster Singles) @ 4,6,6

DB Skullcrusher One Arm 85s 2x8
Rear Delt Flye Machine 220 3x10
Pec Flye Machine 220 2x12
Plate Loaded Hack Squat 135 2x12
Lying Hamstring Curl 135 2x12

PR on my SBD work. 10lb jump with SSB, 10lb on deads and rpe lowered by 1 on incline bench, good stuff.

I used the gyms incline bench instead of bringing the adjustable bench to the rack, I was worried I was putting the notch too low and got the angle wrong but thankfully not, whew lol.

Summary

I never really talk about my drug usage since its pretty unnecessary when logging. But I think for the occasion I will once lol.

I’ve been on HGH ED for about 4 months and I’m feeling great. Really a wonder drug, incredible stuff. Only just now starting to notice the visual benefits , I could feel it working pretty fast though.

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Conventional Deadlift - Raw, Belt, Kilos
155 x 5
265 x 4
375 x 3
435 x 2
465 x 1
495 x 1
525 x 1
555 x 1
580 x 1
615 x 1 @ 5
455 x 3 (Cluster Singles)
455 x 3 (Cluster Singles)

Larsen Close Grip Bench - Paused, Raw
135 x 5
185 x 4
235 x 2
265 x 2
295 x 2
315 x 1
345 x 2 @ 4.5
345 x 2
345 x 2
345 x 2

Stiff Leg Deadlift - Loose Belt , Straps
405 x 5 @ 3
405 x 5

Plate Loaded KB Swing - Raw
185 x 8 @ 5
185 x 8

Ez Bar Reverse Curl 185 2x8
Standing One Arm Cable Curl 70 2x8
Plate Loaded One Arm Row 3.25pps 3x8
Rear Delt Flye Machine 185 2x15
Pec Flye Machine 135 2x15
Leg Press 135 2x15

615 for my top single on deads moved great, pretty calm and chill for the pull which is a good sign that strength is trending upwards. The 185lb KB Swings were intense, so much coordination required and its a different type of hinge training/feeling all together. I love it, not sure why its not too popular among most western programming. Interesting.

Summary

Me and the wife are doing a bunch of tours next week as we are planning on moving out. Excited, eyeing a few really nice spots.

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Comp Squat - Raw, Belt, Heels, Sleeves
135 x 5
225 x 4
275 x 3
345 x 2
385 x 1
415 x 3
425 x 3
435 x 3
470 x 1
500 x 1
525 x 1 @ 5.5

Comp Bench - Raw, Paused
135 x 5
225 x 4
265 x 3
295 x 2
325 x 1
345 x 2
345 x 2
345 x 2
365 x 1
375 x 1
385 x 1 @ 5.5

Incline Spoto Bench - Comp Grip, Paused
225 x 3
265 x 2
295 x 1
315 x 5 @ 7 lifetime PR

Pullups - Deadlift Width Grip
BW x 10 @ 1
BW x 10

Belt Squat w/ Lat Bar - Stiff leg, conventional
585 x 7 @ 5
545 x 7

Tricep Pushdowns One Arm 80 3x8
Chest Press Machine 125 3x12

315x5 on incline was a big PR, had 3 RIR. Really surprised me how easy it felt didn’t have high hopes based off the last couple weeks but it paid off. 385 for my top single also moved great.

Gym didn’t have a weighted belt for pullups so just asked ChatGPT for the closest equivalent in BW for what I originally planned on hitting, it comes in clutch for stuff like this haha.

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:tada::tada:

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Awesome, staying sensible and consistent is paying off nicely!

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Took me a long time to find my stride lol but I think I found it. I was so focused on just training and being in the moment that I didn’t I realize the personal significance of hitting 315 for reps on incline until a bit later. I made it one of those vague, fringe goals awhile ago. Crazy how it sneaks up on ya.

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Larsen Spoto Close Grip - Paused , Raw
135 x 5
185 x 4
235 x 2
264 x 2
295 x 2
325 x 1
345 x 2
355 x 2 @ 6.5
355 x 2

Smith Machine Seated OHP - Paused, Comp Grip
315 x 5 @ 6
315 x 5

Ez Bar Reverse Curl 185 3x8
Straight Bar Cable Curl 80 3x8
Neutral Grip Cable Row 400 3x8
Rear Delt Flye Machine 245 3x12
Pec Flye Machine 245 3x12
Plate Loaded Hack Squat 135 3x12

10lb PR on Larsen Spoto Close Grip Bench, good stuff. RPE and volume PR on smith machine OHP. Good signs. This is a great start to my week 3 honestly, hit PRs back to back days. Can’t ask for much more than that.

Also it is INSANE that this commerical gym cable stack can handle 400lbs worth of weight for cable rows. I don’t know how it hasn’t broken in half.

Summary

We’ve got one more tour lined up. Me and my wife found a place that’s really caught our eye. Unless this other location has something better we haven’t seen yet, we’ve made our decision.

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Big Reverse Curls, Damn.

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Pause Squat - Heels, SSB, Raw, Sleeves
135 x 5
225 x 4
275 x 3
345 x 2
385 x 2 @ 3
385 x 2
385 x 2

Incline Spoto Bench - Comp Grip, Paused
135 x 5
185 x 4
235 x 3
265 x 2
295 x 5 @ 7
285 x 5

Paused 2" Deficit Deadlift - Conventional, Stiff Bar, Raw
275 x 3
365 x
405 x 2 (Cluster Singles) @ 1,1
405 x 2 (Cluster Singles)
405 x 2 (Cluster Singles)

Tricep One Arm Pushdowns 95 3x8
Rear delt Flye Machine 270 3x8
Pec Flye Machine 250 3x12

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Whelp. I was helping my wife push her car since it ran outta gas and died. It started rolling way too fast so I had to run and try to jump into the seat to hit the brakes.

My leg got caught and wedged against the pavement and the moving car, I couldn’t pull it up in time and it twisted backwards. I didn’t tear anything thankfully, but I felt a pop and tweaked the f out my back

It is what it is. I wouldn’t be nearly as irritated if it wasn’t the dumbest thing that got me injured.

If it doesn’t need ibuprofen, it’s fine. That’s words i live by lol.

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Heal up quick man! That’s awful

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Yeah man it was pretty awful lol, I was feeling great after the gym and a belly full of subway. Ruined my whole night :joy:

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That sounds awful. Hopefully not too bad today, and can quickly heal.

Also I read through some of the “how I use AI to help with training” and I thought that was cool you shared. I’ve found the AI tools work best like that too. You have to second guess and tell them they’re wrong sometimes, but they do readjust. Overall they make a good partner and have ideas and observations you might not have considered.

Like if you already know enough about a subject to recognize when they’re wrong, they can be a really good tool. But if you have no idea what you’re doing, I think it’s easy to get misled. Not a substitute for thinking and learning for yourself, but can definitely help you think through things.

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I went in earlier to do some PT/Rehab stuff for it and it actually isn’t doing bad at all. Yesterday I was in real bad shape, it feels like 60% of the way healed today. If this continues, I’d say I may be like 70-80% ready. So it will really be up to my judgement during the workout tommorow if I want to take my original single on deads, which was supposed to be 645. Kinda risky but we’ll see. The timing of it is terrible.

Yes this is one of the few things I could consider a drawback depending on how you look at it. Though, its also really easy for the AI to readjust once given the right context, it does require a lot more details and specifics from your end which could get exhausting. Although, i can talk about training and the hyper-minute details of training for hours, someone wired like me may actually find this a benefit. I do end up treating the AI more of a lifting buddy than I do a coach at times and it allows me to bounce between ideas and consider things I haven’t considered before.

I am absolutely with you on this. I would not recommend it to a beginner and maybe even intermediate. It does require a lot of internal awareness and honesty that most people don’t have developed. Also, most people are probably running a program already written out as a pre existing template, the AI from what I found is not too good at creating templates. Its good at taking a proven model (or have gotten from a coach), and tracking or making calculations based off your actual tonnage, sets/reps or working weights, as well as calculating the equivalent variation stress at a certain working weight when compared to its competition counterpart (real world ex: my 495 deficit paused work is around 575 competition equivalent stress, so I adjusted accordingly), it’s been very accurate at giving me these adjustments when I need to scale back or manage fatigue, so I’m not just shooting blindly into the dark and “taking it easy” with no plan or idea of what I’m actually managing. This is stuff I wouldn’t have a guy whose just in his first couple years focus on as intensity, simplicity and consistent progression is probably a much better driver for someone like that.

I really think its better at taking a proven system and fine tuning it to your needs versus cresting one from scratch essentially. I think this is the strongest argument for it’s usage. Imo.

I’m glad you added this last bit haha. I’m actually going to say that I’m on the side of people who think it does help with learning and is a major study aid (when it comes to the context of lifting as a whole) since you can take the information it gives you and stress test it to see if it’s accurate. All its really doing is scraping a wide range of sources from the internet that relates to the topic and condenses it down, which is where some issues arise if your getting it from anecdotal sources. Though if you give it set rules, such as asking it to specifically pull from peer reviewed sources only, it’ll actually do that. It’s answered almost every lifting related question I’ve ever had to pretty good accuracy from what I could tell.

Also for me, the proof is in the pudding, I’m a data and pattern driven guy so I care about long term results. I am the biggest, leanest and strongest I’ve ever been by far with very low injury rates, I’m not going to say it was all AI obviously but its been a major contributor. I know people get up in arms about it and I understand why. My experience is very niche and it’s not something 99% of people would benefit from, which is why I’m not blindly gung ho about it.

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Conventional Deadlift - Raw, Kilos, Belt
155 x 5
155 x 5
265 x 4
265 x 4
375 x 3
435 x 2
465 x 1
495 x 1
525 x 1
555 x 1
570 x 1 @ 4

Larsen Close Grip Bench - Paused , Raw
135 x 5
235 x 4
265 x 3
295 x 2
325 x 2
355 x 2 @ 5.5
355 x 2
355 x 2
355 x 2

Belt Squat w/ Lat Bar - Stiff Leg , Conventional Stance
645 x 8
735 x 8
755 x 8 @ 4

Plate Loaded KB Swing - Raw
210 x 8 @ 4
210 x 8
210 x 8

Ez Bar Reverse Curl 185 3x8
Cable Curl 140 3x8
Plate Loaded One Arm Row 4PPS 3x8
Rear Delt Flye Machine 205 3x12
Pec Flye Machine 205 3x12
Leg Press 315 3x12

Made the call to cap at 570. I’m feeling good but there still some residual guarding and irritation that appeared after the singles got to the 525 range, I wasn’t confident enough to justify a jump to something like 610 and 645. I felt good enough to obliterate my pc with other accessories after some rest though, and thankfully I’m not hurting at the end of my session. This should still set me up for week 4 with no issues. That’s all that matters. I’m leaving the gym feeling pretty great and the guarding & irritation has disappeared. I made the right call.

Also the belt squat here is like 180lbs off from vasa lol. I had to work up to 755 to have it feel roughly like 605

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You are ridiculously strong. :blush: Glad your back isn’t causing problems.

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Comp Squat - Belt, Raw, Sleeves, Heels
135 x 5
225 x 4
275 x 3
345 x 2
385 x 2
435 x 2
435 x 2
445 x 2
470 x 1
500 x 1
525 x 1
550 x 1 @ 6

Comp Bench - Paused, Raw
135 x 6
235 x 4
265 x 3
295 x 2
325 x 1
345 x 2
345 x 2
365 x 1
375 x 1
385 x 1
395 x 1 @ 7

Incline Spoto Bench - Paused, Raw
225 x 5 @ 1
225 x 5

Pullups - Deadlift Width Grip
BW x 13 @ 3
BW x 13

Belt Squat w/ Lat Bar - Stiff Leg, Conventional
630 x 7 @ 6
610 x 7

Plate Loaded Hack Squat - Flats, Squat Stance
285 x 7 @ 6
285 x 7

Tricep One Arm Pushdowns 95 3x8
Pec Flye Machine 185 3x12

395 moved great. After doing 365,375,385 as a dense ramp, this was my fatigued top end. Definitely good for 420 today. 445-455 fresh/peaked imo is pretty realistic in the next 6-8 months.

Cut depth on accident by a inch or two. Not a super big deal. That’s the tradeoff (and also reason) I block the mirror while squatting. Gotta be better next time.

550 still moved good regardless. I haven’t been really paying attention or pushing squat at all, more so working on technique more than anything. Based off this speed & rpe, I’m still good for 600. My plan is to keep that as my baseline anchor while I push the Bench/Deadlift hard which are my priorities.

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Larsen Spoto Close Grip - Paused , Raw
135 x 5
235 x 4
265 x 3
295 x 2
315 x 1
345 x 1
365 x 2 @ 6.5
365 x 2

Smith Machine Seated OHP - Comp Grip, Paused
335 x 5 @ 9 (oof)
285 x 5

Ez Bar Reverse Curl 195 2x8
Standing Cable Curl 95 4x8
Neutral Grip Cable Row 430 3x8
Rear Delt Flye Machine 275 3x8
Pec Flye Machine 250 2x10
Leg Press 315 3x12

10lb PR on larsen Spoto close grip. This felt easier than 355x2 did last week which surprised me. Took a 10lb jump for OHP, it was a PR but I overshot a bit. I was hoping it was going to be a RPE 7.5 or so. Thankfully it’s a smith machine, so if I was gonna accidently grind, this is probably the lowest risk.

Summary

Training partner popped his pec while spotting him with 420 on bench. He was doing sets of 4 and the 2nd set on the 2nd rep it went and we threw it in the rack. Happened really fast right off the chest. Glad I was there with him, caught me way off guard since he’s never had issues.

Thankfully he isn’t bruising. I think he’ll be okay. I dont think he did anything wrong from what I could see from my angle, it was a routine working weight. Guess its one of those freak injuries.

Still hate seeing a brother get hurt. I could feel his pain. Shit happens.

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Conventional Deadlift - Belt, Raw, Kilos
155 x 5
265 x 4
375 x 2
435 x 2
495 x 1
525 x 1
555 x 1
580 x 1
610 x 1
640 x 1 @ 5
665 x 1 @ 7.5 RPE lifetime PR

Incline Spoto Bench - Comp Grip, Paused, Raw
135 x 5
185 x 4
235 x 3
265 x 2
285 x 5 @ 4
285 x 5

Belt Squat - Stiff Leg, Conventional Stance
805 x 8
895 x 7 @ 6 (note: feels like 635 at vasa)
895 x 7

One Arm DB Skullcrusher 80s 3x8
Pec Flye Machine 180 3x10
Leg Press 315 3x12

Yep did a little switch a roo. Decided to take the comp deadlift today instead of Sunday and push the Pause SSB to Sunday as the main lift instead. I opted to skip paused deficits entirely. I’m starting a new job tommorow and I realized I’m not going to have time to eat and I’ll be on my feet the entire time, I decided it was better to hit it fresh right now.

This moved great. Lifetime RPE PR. This was heavy enough to my top end to pretty confidently guess that my max is well beyond 675 by this point (I think I hit that 4 months ago, soft lockout and hitched). This was way cleaner. Much happier with this actually. RPE calculator says I’m good for around 720 right now. I estimated around 710 based off the speed & feel before I plugged it in, surprisingly, it hit pretty close.

Top single song for today. Brymir is such a underground, underrated band. Everything sounds so beautiful and majestic. Really hits some part of my lizard brain that makes me feel like I lived a second life lol.

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