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[quote]AZMojo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
AZMojo wrote:
Headhuinter,

Are there ANY countries that don’t require their citizens to pay taxes?
If so, maybe you would like to live there, but I doubt it.
Although, I bet Headhunter’s Every Man for Himself island would be a veritable Utopia.

Death and taxes, remember the cliche?

Now if you’re really that unhappy about how the federal government manages your taxes, do something about. Toss some tea into a river, or something. If enough citizens demand a change, one will happen. Otherwise, you just sound a little whiney that your vote only counts once.

Well, let’s turn this around: since you think taxes are wonderful, then you should surely move to a country with higher taxes! What, that’s not what you meant? Oh, its okay if the government takes a little, just not too much.

Now, where do you draw the line? The people of New Orleans need help. Well, what about the homeless in D.C.? Are they more important than your new car or your vacation? Of course, so those should be taxed away from you to help the homeless. But wait, unemployment is high in West Virginia. That’s surely more important than that bike you wanted to get for your kid, right? Let’s tax that away too.

Don’t you see? The premise is evil. Your money is yours, not theirs. It is YOUR PROPERTY. You worked for it, you suffered for it, it is YOURS. Don’t you see how sacred that principle is?

WOW!! Your really are a lunatic, aren’t you. Not only is it not want I meant, it’s not what I said. What is it you teach again?

Taxes are a necessary evil of civilization, nobody is saying they’re “wonderful”, you nut.
If not for taxes, you wouldn’t even have a job!
I DEFINITELY don’t want my tax dollars paying YOU to teach our youth, but they are. [/quote]

Did you even read what I wrote, before your little liberal mind went into shutdown mode? Read the post again; try. You CAN do it.

Then, please try to respond: Where do you draw the line? If someone else has a right to your money, when does it stop?

Maybe if you’d read instead of using all your mental capacity to think up some juvenile insults, you just might learn something. Read the Crockett article – there’s hope for you yet (unlike FightinIrish, he’s a goner.)

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[quote]Kayrob wrote:
Headhunter.

Please respond to my question.

What is your alternative to taxation?[/quote]

My fundamental belief is that coersion should be removed from human life as much as possible. Here’s an example of how to eliminate extortion (aka taxation):

When any real estate transaction takes place, the buyer is given the option of government protection against fraud. If the buyer pays, for example, 3% of the purchase price to the government, the buyer has the protection offered by police, courts, and so forth against fraud.

Now, if you were purchasing a home from your parents (and you trust them), you’d be free to not pay this ‘insurance’. If you were buying from a stranger, you’d opt for the insurance.

Do you realize the enormity of income this would generate? And, no one is forced to do anything.

I am a advocate for as much freedom as possible in life. This robbing others because of some tradegy or to help the needy has to end. Let’s get rid of it.

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[quote]Fonebone wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I want to be clear that I am not against helping the poor, or those in desperate circumstances. I AM against being FORCED to contribute against my will. Many people are against the war, for example. They should not be forced to pay for something they find objectionable. My philosophy of life is that ALL RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN HUMAN BEINGS MUST BE VOLUNTARY, ON ALL SIDES. Otherwise, someone is the master and someone is their slave. We many not be able to attain the ideal, but there it is.

Those who wish to contribute to the people made homeless and so forth by the hurricane are free to do so. When I am forced to contribute, however, I do so but only with the threat of jail or a gun pointed at me. I refuse to allow the system to disguise what they do as benevolence – it is not. It is a system of blackmail, designed to rob the productive for the expense of the non-productive. It is altruism taken to its logical conclusion. It is the philosophy of the parasite.

Very well said. Coerced charity has another name: Communism.

I recommend looking up a speech given by Tenneseee Rep. Davy Crockett entitled “Not Yours to Give”. Here, I’ll save you the time.

http://www.house.gov/paul/nytg.htm[/quote]

whats wrong with communism ? not the “communism” of the cold war ,thats not communism , russia praticed state capitilism.

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@head hunter ,if i seen you at the gym and you were benching and needed a spot i’d give you the freedom to have the bar fall on your throat and crush your wind pipe. fuck i dont want to be botherd i’d rather have you suffer

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I’ve just read this entire thriead and my only comment to HeadHunter is this:

Regardless of what has happened to anyone anywhere, you are not in favor of the government coercing you to give your money to them in the form of taxes.

I get it.

And yet every time you accept a paycheck that has taxes removed from it, and/or every time you file your federal tax forms, you participate in the exact same program that you profess to be staunchly against.

If you are so against this system, THEN DON’T PAY YOUR TAXES!!! If they come after you with guns and/or jail, then so be it. If you believe what you say to be the truth, then whatever price you need to pay to observe those beliefs has to be worth it.

If that price is not worth it to you, then you either don’t truly believe what you say (at least not enough to give something up for what you believe, making that belief at best secondary) or you just like to talk with no intention of ever following up your words with any form of action.

If you are just talking, then that is your choice…this is a message board after all. Just admit that what you believe in this matter is nothing more then a collection of words, which without action, add up to very little.

If you don’t pay taxes, then I give you a lot of credit for walking the talk, so to speak. Few have the courage to attach action to their words.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Kayrob wrote:
Headhunter.

Please respond to my question.

What is your alternative to taxation?

My fundamental belief is that coersion should be removed from human life as much as possible. Here’s an example of how to eliminate extortion (aka taxation):

When any real estate transaction takes place, the buyer is given the option of government protection against fraud. If the buyer pays, for example, 3% of the purchase price to the government, the buyer has the protection offered by police, courts, and so forth against fraud.

Now, if you were purchasing a home from your parents (and you trust them), you’d be free to not pay this ‘insurance’. If you were buying from a stranger, you’d opt for the insurance.

Do you realize the enormity of income this would generate? And, no one is forced to do anything.

I am a advocate for as much freedom as possible in life. This robbing others because of some tradegy or to help the needy has to end. Let’s get rid of it.

[/quote]

Laughing my ass off.

“Yes, 911, someone stabbed me and my husband and is now trying to break down the door to our bedroom!!! HELP!!!”

“Did you pay personal property tax?”

“He’s almost broken through the door and blood is everywhere!!! Oh NO!!!, it sounds like there is more than one of them!! My BABY!!!”

“Ma’am, yes, that’s all well and good, but did you pay personal property tax?”

“He’s broken through the door…Aaaaarrrrgggghhh!!! Don’t touch me!!! Ack! Ugh!! NOOO!!! Ack!!!”

“Ma’am, are you still there? Property tax?”

phone disconnects

911 operator 1: “I hate it when these bastards expect to be helped yet they won’t say if they paid their personal government protection property tax. Like I’m going to send out such a costly work force given the price of gas for anyone?!”

911 operator 2: “Your dad called, something about a heart attack…He didn’t pay his property tax this month.”

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Headhunter I agree completely. Indeed as I do not have children I deeply resent both the parasitic teachers like yourself and the parents and children that I am subisidising. People who choose to have children should pay the full cost, not be subsidised by those who don’t. If your school is not receiving any government money, then I take it back, but I doubt this is the case.

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This post is for headhunter:

Here is a list of virtues I copied from this virtuescience website. Read em.

Acceptance: To consider circumstances, especially those that can not be changed, as satisfactory.

Bravery: A quality of spirit that enables you to face danger of pain without showing fear.

Caution: Avoidance of rashness, attention to safety.

Curiosity: A desire to find out and know things.

Defiance: Bold resistance.

Determination: Firmness of purpose.

Devotion: A great love or loyalty, enthusiastic zeal.

Discretion: Being discrete in ones speech, keeping secrets.

Flexibility: Adaptable, able to be changed to suit circumstances.

Focus: Concentrated awareness and effort.

Forgiveness: To cease to feel angry or bitter towards a person or about an offense.

Generosity: Giving or ready to give freely, free from meanness or prejudice.

Gentleness: Moderate; mild, quite; not rough or severe.

Gratitude: Being thankful.

Honesty: Truthful; sincere; not lieing or cheating.

Humbleness: Modest; not arrogant or boastful.

Humor: The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd.

Impartiality: Fair.

Industry: Diligent, hardworking.

Innocence: Guileless, not guilty.

Justice: Fair, impartial, giving a deserved response.

Kindness: Friendly, helpful, well meaning.

Love: A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.

Loyalty: Steadfast in allegiance to one’s homeland, government, or sovereign. Faithful to a person, ideal, custom, cause, or duty.

Majesty: Great and impressive dignity.

Moderation: The avoidance of extremes in one?s actions or opinions.

Obedience: Willingness to obey, to be controlled when necessary, to carry out orders.

Openness: Ready and willing to talk candidly.Unsecretive.

Patience: The ability to endure delay, trouble, pain or hardship.

Peace: Freedom from mental agitation; serenity.
Prudence: Wise or careful in conduct. Shrewd or thrifty in planning ahead.

Reliability: Can be trusted to do something.

Responsibility: Having control over and accountability for appropriate events.

Sensitivity: Heightened awareness of oneself and others within the context of social and personal relationships.

Simplicity: Straightforward; not complex or complicated. Unpretentious.

Sincerity: Free from pretense or deceit in manner or actions.

Sobriety: Serious, solemn and calm. Free from intoxication.

Spontaneity: Natural, not planned.

Steadfastness: Firm, resolute; determinedly unwavering.

Strength: Capable of exerting great force.

Toughness: Strong and durable; not easily damaged.

Tranquility: Serenely quite and peaceful; undisturbed.

Trust: Having confidence in others; lacking suspicion.

Trustworthiness: Able to be trusted or depended on; reliable.

Now imagine a world where everyone had most of these virtues. It is very easy to see that it would be a peaceful world indeed. Government as we know it would be unnecessary. In fact, on the western frontier awhile back (the not so wild west) there was no ‘government’ and hardly any crime.

People left their doors unlocked, their possessions just sitting out in the open. They even formed councils to organize who owned which land. No one stole because they knew stealing, although immediately benificial, when rampant causes poverty for everyone. It takes intelligence to see the value of virtues, and voluntarily practise them.

The frontier was full of intelligent people, because if they were stupid they would have died on the way.

Now, think of a world where everyone has the corresponding vice to each of the above. It would be easy to see that no matter if the tax rate was 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, or 50% whatever civilisation was there before would quickly disappear on account of impossible cooperation.

So, I challenge headhunter to think about where virtue and vice come from. It may affect his ideas on Alice Rosenbaum (Ayn Rands Jewish name) and certain key libertarian ideas. It sure did for me!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
So, you can legally drive without insurance?

[/quote]

Actually, you can. Wisconsin does not require that you have insurance to operate a motor vehicle.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Economic impact? This is a philosophy discussion. You are prattling on about things irrelevant to the thread. [/quote]

You have the philosophical depth of a toilet bowl. Your continuing drivel lacks one bit of insight of cause and effect. Asking even the most basic question causes you to further expose your lack of understanding and inability to understand how this country became what is…

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If you would read the posts you would know this, instead of spouting your drivel. (Who wouldn’t know that a large city plays a major role?) I started the thread because it is immoral to ask the rest of the country to pay to rebuild the city; then you start some bullshit about economics.

[/quote]

I have read your posts and you are a borderline retard. It has nothing to do with morals you idiot. It’s about being responsible for the basic well being of a state and region that makes HUGE contributions to the general fund of this country so that a fucktard like yourself don’t have to pay more in taxes. Have you been this stupid your entire life or is it just a phase you are going through?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
And don’t bullshit us with “Oh, its a high school comeback.” A) it doesn’t answer anything; B) you want the same feds that fucked up in the first place to rebuild the city. That’s a stupidity even some of my dumbest high schoolers wouldn’t make (if you want to talk about high school.[/quote]

The fact that your posts are extremely juvenile and lack intelligent thought are further exposed with each time you reply. If this country followed your “philosophy” a teacher making >30k a year would not be able to keep up with us folks that earn several times that.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
My respect for the people of Louisiana goes down with each of your posts. You might want to bail out.

[/quote]

In addition to being an idiot wrapped inside of a moron, you are quite an arrogant fool also. For you to imply that ANYONE in the great state of LA. gives a shit about your respect is absolutely comical. Earning respect from a buffoon such as yourself is irrelevant to this entire state.

As for bailing out, you would really like that, I’m sure. That way you could continue to post your psycho-babble and keep your feeble mind from being exposed.

Stevie Wonder can see what an idiot you are, so please be my guest to have the infamous last word.

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[quote]BigMike wrote:
@head hunter ,if i seen you at the gym and you were benching and needed a spot i’d give you the freedom to have the bar fall on your throat and crush your wind pipe. fuck i dont want to be botherd i’d rather have you suffer [/quote]

You, who have no soul, at least have my pity. What tragedy, what sequence of events, led you to lose your humanity? I ask you to think, to stop being an automoton, to reject the philosophy of the parasites, and you wish for me to die.

Someday, may you become part of the human race.

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[quote]twes011 wrote:
Headhunter I agree completely. Indeed as I do not have children I deeply resent both the parasitic teachers like yourself and the parents and children that I am subisidising. People who choose to have children should pay the full cost, not be subsidised by those who don’t. If your school is not receiving any government money, then I take it back, but I doubt this is the case.[/quote]

I agree. I do not work in a public school and would not. I do not accept money extorted from helpless victims, such as yourself. My earnings are given to me voluntarily by working parents, who sacrifice much, to keep their children away from public education (some examples of this ‘education’ are on this board – see for ex. Rhino).

I refuse to benefit from criminal activity. I reject the idea that someone else is here to serve my needs. Your money is yours, you earned it (honestly, I hope) and you deserve to enjoy it to the best of your ability, as a rational man.

Now, excuse me, Rhino wants to tell me how evil I am.

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If you have retained a shred of being human, you know that the philosophy of the parasites is evil. You know that others are not here to serve your needs, that someone else’s misfortune is not a moral claim on your life or your earnings. Just as they are not here for your benefit, you are not here for theirs.

Each man’s life is precious, something sacred. If you are human, you have this knowledge, buried somewhere in the muck of your past. But it is precisely this knowledge that the parasites don’t want you to know.

They want you to be a schmoo, the character from the old L’il Abner comic, who went around wanting to be eaten. They dread the day that you awaken to this knowledge, and ask “Why?” “Why are the needs of others more important than my own? Does wealth exist to serve poverty, does intelligience exist to serve the stupid, does ambition exist to serve the lazy?”

Notice the hatred that I encounter on this board. Notice how violently others react, when their beliefs are challenged. It is very difficult to give up the parasitical philosophy, the idea that others may be forced and enslaved, when the majority (out of cowardice) mouth these sentiments.

Notice Rhino, who screams and insults everything I say. Harris, who passes judgments w/o knowledge; FightinIrish, whose answers defy description. These are all examples of individuals that the parasitical philosophy has unleashed upon the world.

One day, the parasites will run out of victims. Witness North Korea, where the common people eat the bark off of trees – no victims left (the Soviets milked their people dry and couldn’t subsidize NK anymore). This will happen here, unless we reject the philosophy of the parasite.

The choice is yours.

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[quote]RHINO928 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:

Economic impact? This is a philosophy discussion. You are prattling on about things irrelevant to the thread.

You have the philosophical depth of a toilet bowl. Your continuing drivel lacks one bit of insight of cause and effect. Asking even the most basic question causes you to further expose your lack of understanding and inability to understand how this country became what is…

Headhunter wrote:
If you would read the posts you would know this, instead of spouting your drivel. (Who wouldn’t know that a large city plays a major role?) I started the thread because it is immoral to ask the rest of the country to pay to rebuild the city; then you start some bullshit about economics.

I have read your posts and you are a borderline retard. It has nothing to do with morals you idiot. It’s about being responsible for the basic well being of a state and region that makes HUGE contributions to the general fund of this country so that a fucktard like yourself don’t have to pay more in taxes. Have you been this stupid your entire life or is it just a phase you are going through?

Headhunter wrote:
And don’t bullshit us with “Oh, its a high school comeback.” A) it doesn’t answer anything; B) you want the same feds that fucked up in the first place to rebuild the city. That’s a stupidity even some of my dumbest high schoolers wouldn’t make (if you want to talk about high school.

The fact that your posts are extremely juvenile and lack intelligent thought are further exposed with each time you reply. If this country followed your “philosophy” a teacher making >30k a year would not be able to keep up with us folks that earn several times that.

Headhunter wrote:
My respect for the people of Louisiana goes down with each of your posts. You might want to bail out.

In addition to being an idiot wrapped inside of a moron, you are quite an arrogant fool also. For you to imply that ANYONE in the great state of LA. gives a shit about your respect is absolutely comical. Earning respect from a buffoon such as yourself is irrelevant to this entire state.

As for bailing out, you would really like that, I’m sure. That way you could continue to post your psycho-babble and keep your feeble mind from being exposed.

Stevie Wonder can see what an idiot you are, so please be my guest to have the infamous last word.[/quote]

You either (A) are too stupid to understand my philosophy or (B) understand it and are a parasite.

In either case, there is no point in answering you. Goodbye.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Kayrob wrote:
Headhunter.

Please respond to my question.

What is your alternative to taxation?

My fundamental belief is that coersion should be removed from human life as much as possible. Here’s an example of how to eliminate extortion (aka taxation):

When any real estate transaction takes place, the buyer is given the option of government protection against fraud. If the buyer pays, for example, 3% of the purchase price to the government, the buyer has the protection offered by police, courts, and so forth against fraud.

Now, if you were purchasing a home from your parents (and you trust them), you’d be free to not pay this ‘insurance’. If you were buying from a stranger, you’d opt for the insurance.

Do you realize the enormity of income this would generate? And, no one is forced to do anything.

I am a advocate for as much freedom as possible in life. This robbing others because of some tradegy or to help the needy has to end. Let’s get rid of it.

Laughing my ass off.

“Yes, 911, someone stabbed me and my husband and is now trying to break down the door to our bedroom!!! HELP!!!”

“Did you pay personal property tax?”

“He’s almost broken through the door and blood is everywhere!!! Oh NO!!!, it sounds like there is more than one of them!! My BABY!!!”

“Ma’am, yes, that’s all well and good, but did you pay personal property tax?”

“He’s broken through the door…Aaaaarrrrgggghhh!!! Don’t touch me!!! Ack! Ugh!! NOOO!!! Ack!!!”

“Ma’am, are you still there? Property tax?”

phone disconnects

911 operator 1: “I hate it when these bastards expect to be helped yet they won’t say if they paid their personal government protection property tax. Like I’m going to send out such a costly work force given the price of gas for anyone?!”

911 operator 2: “Your dad called, something about a heart attack…He didn’t pay his property tax this month.”[/quote]

Professor, sigh, your posts are just getting worse. Wow… The fee is for protection against real estate fraud. Unbelievable. Try again, Prof.

And say, with your brain, couldn’t you figure a better funding scheme that treating humans like mindless brutes and taking their money by force (taxes)?

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[quote]Loyal_Soundwave wrote:
This post is for headhunter:

Here is a list of virtues I copied from this virtuescience website. Read em.

Acceptance: To consider circumstances, especially those that can not be changed, as satisfactory.
Bravery: A quality of spirit that enables you to face danger of pain without showing fear.
Caution: Avoidance of rashness, attention to safety.
Curiosity: A desire to find out and know things.
Defiance: Bold resistance.
Determination: Firmness of purpose.
Devotion: A great love or loyalty, enthusiastic zeal.
Discretion: Being discrete in ones speech, keeping secrets.
Flexibility: Adaptable, able to be changed to suit circumstances.
Focus: Concentrated awareness and effort.
Forgiveness: To cease to feel angry or bitter towards a person or about an offense.
Generosity: Giving or ready to give freely, free from meanness or prejudice.
Gentleness: Moderate; mild, quite; not rough or severe.
Gratitude: Being thankful.
Honesty: Truthful; sincere; not lieing or cheating.
Humbleness: Modest; not arrogant or boastful.
Humor: The ability to perceive, enjoy, or express what is amusing, comical, incongruous, or absurd.
Impartiality: Fair.
Industry: Diligent, hardworking.
Innocence: Guileless, not guilty.
Justice: Fair, impartial, giving a deserved response.
Kindness: Friendly, helpful, well meaning.
Love: A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
Loyalty: Steadfast in allegiance to one’s homeland, government, or sovereign. Faithful to a person, ideal, custom, cause, or duty.
Majesty: Great and impressive dignity.
Moderation: The avoidance of extremes in one?s actions or opinions.
Obedience: Willingness to obey, to be controlled when necessary, to carry out orders.
Openness: Ready and willing to talk candidly.Unsecretive.
Patience: The ability to endure delay, trouble, pain or hardship.
Peace: Freedom from mental agitation; serenity.
Prudence: Wise or careful in conduct. Shrewd or thrifty in planning ahead.
Reliability: Can be trusted to do something.
Responsibility: Having control over and accountability for appropriate events.
Sensitivity: Heightened awareness of oneself and others within the context of social and personal relationships.
Simplicity: Straightforward; not complex or complicated. Unpretentious.
Sincerity: Free from pretense or deceit in manner or actions.
Sobriety: Serious, solemn and calm. Free from intoxication.
Spontaneity: Natural, not planned.
Steadfastness: Firm, resolute; determinedly unwavering.
Strength: Capable of exerting great force.
Toughness: Strong and durable; not easily damaged.
Tranquility: Serenely quite and peaceful; undisturbed.
Trust: Having confidence in others; lacking suspicion.
Trustworthiness: Able to be trusted or depended on; reliable.

Now imagine a world where everyone had most of these virtues. It is very easy to see that it would be a peaceful world indeed. Government as we know it would be unnecessary. In fact, on the western frontier awhile back (the not so wild west) there was no ‘government’ and hardly any crime. People left their doors unlocked, their possessions just sitting out in the open. They even formed councils to organize who owned which land. No one stole because they knew stealing, although immediately benificial, when rampant causes poverty for everyone. It takes intelligence to see the value of virtues, and voluntarily practise them. The frontier was full of intelligent people, because if they were stupid they would have died on the way.

Now, think of a world where everyone has the corresponding vice to each of the above. It would be easy to see that no matter if the tax rate was 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, or 50% whatever civilisation was there before would quickly disappear on account of impossible cooperation.

So, I challenge headhunter to think about where virtue and vice come from. It may affect his ideas on Alice Rosenbaum (Ayn Rands Jewish name) and certain key libertarian ideas. It sure did for me![/quote]

Nice list, but nothing about integrity, honor, speaking out against evil. Hmmm… now, where do virtue and vice come from? I believe Aristotle’s ideas are the best: You are, by definition, a rational being.

Whatever maintains or improves you as a rational being is the GOOD. What ever detracts or weakens you as a rational being is EVIL. Virtue and vice proceed from these axioms.

The morality of the parasite, the morality that allows stealing from helpless victims (aka taxpayers) to benefit others, is not appropriate for rational beings and is therefore evil.

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Nice list, but nothing about integrity, honor, speaking out against evil. Hmmm… now, where do virtue and vice come from? I believe Aristotle’s ideas are the best: You are, by definition, a rational being.

Whatever maintains or improves you as a rational being is the GOOD. What ever detracts or weakens you as a rational being is EVIL. Virtue and vice proceed from these axioms.

The morality of the parasite, the morality that allows stealing from helpless victims (aka taxpayers) to benefit others, is not appropriate for rational beings and is therefore evil.

[/quote]

YOU’RE a helpless victim? No, you’re an annoying, undereducated troll with no endogenous T.

This is a helpless victim:

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And this is Headhunter displaying his philosophical prowess.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor, sigh, your posts are just getting worse. Wow… The fee is for protection against real estate fraud. Unbelievable. Try again, Prof.

And say, with your brain, couldn’t you figure a better funding scheme that treating humans like mindless brutes and taking their money by force (taxes)?

[/quote]

My posts are getting worse? I would be greatly surprised if anyone on this board is beginning to think of you as anything more than a troll at this point. Then again, it’s a big world. Maybe you actually do have a fan or two. I would love to hear from them just to see whether this mentality is contagious or contained.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

My posts are getting worse? I would be greatly surprised if anyone on this board is beginning to think of you as anything more than a troll at this point. Then again, it’s a big world. Maybe you actually do have a fan or two. I would love to hear from them just to see whether this mentality is contagious or contained.[/quote]

For sure! Hall of Fame yet?