Jokes on you, then.
I am not dumb enough to give the president credit for a good economy, but make excuses for the president when the economy is poor. If he wants credit for the economy, he gets it both ways. The economy has many moving parts to it. What the president does isn’t the sole thing that determines performance. It is possible to have a good economy despite a president doing things that should hurt it (like trying to start a trade war with China).
You said the black unemployment rate is the lowest in history. It isn’t. That’s a fact. Say it was the lowest until the downturn, it you don’t want to be called out on it.
I didn’t say it currently is. I said Lowest Black Unemployment in History. Which was achieved during Trump’s time in office.
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Sure, usually with unemployment stats, it is usually assumed we are talking about current. I guess I care how we are currently doing vs how we were doing at the best point. We could look at average over the term or something too. Using a high or low point seems a bit silly. At the same time, I am not convinced that a good or bad economy is the result of a president’s policy.
It’s kinda like, I don’t care that you were up 10k at the casino, I care that you currently lost all your gains and have spent your own money at this point. That’s were we are with black unemployment right now, and it’s what matters.
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By whom? What policy made this happen independent from economic factors dating back to the previous administration?
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I’m not going to write out a list of economic policies I agree with, but a crystal clear example is getting rid of the Obamacare individual insurance mandate, which was effectively the most regressive tax I can think of in my lifetime. $800 back in the pockets of millions of low level workers is huge. Instant boost. The results were all good, pre pandemic. I care about results.
Of course, any point I make can be easily explained away to someone who eagerly buys into broad, fact-free narratives, which is what Joe Biden counts on his voters to believe. These narratives are the only means by which the Democrats can retain power as time goes on and their policies do nothing but fail. All they need to do is sell the lie faster than people can wise up to it.
The Big Lie of our time is the notion of rampant white supremacy in the USA and our institutions that gets peddled to the masses by the likes of Biden and Obama. It’s not the only one, but it’s the Big One.
Without that lie the Dems have very little to run on, which is why it has been front-and-center since Obama was in office. Without that lie they have to admit that Ferguson and many other cities burned because they encouraged their base to riot over good police work.
See the most recent example where white racist Democrats call a black Kentucky AG a “race traitor” for valuing facts over narrative in the Breonna Taylor case.
This is how people come to believe that Trump is a Russian spy nominating gang rapists to the Supreme Court whilst telling people to inject bleach when he isn’t busy urinating on hookers. That all sells like hot cakes to people ready to eat it up, just like any other tabloid news that will print anything.
#resistance
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Have you seen him talk? I don’t think this is debatable 
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I have a hard time with this one. Who is guilty of murder in this situation? I don’t see anything in this case that would indicate a murder charge. They should be protesting for police reform, but the whole protest until the cops are prosecuted just makes no sense to me.
I don’t agree with the individual mandate. However, I see something like that as the way to make a partial solution like the affordable care act work. Maybe we need to move to a more progressive single payer system?
I disagree here. More Americans trust the Dems with health care for example. Without a value judgement on wither or not they have better solutions, we can admit they could run on health care.
You can disagree if you like, but if they had good ideas with a good track record they wouldn’t need to conjure up narratives that cannot hold up to even basic scrutiny.
“What white supremacist policies, individuals and actions do you find most concerning?” should be a simple question to answer for any Democrat.
That’s just one fact free narrative. We haven’t gotten into gun policy, law enforcement policy, education policy and every other topic where Dems scurry from the facts and fall back on broad narratives of interconnected victim hood.
I am saying health care does drive voters for Dems, not that their ideas on health care are good or bad. LGBTQ rights and abortion rights also drive Dem voters.
I think race and racism (perhaps perceived stronger than actual) is one reason people vote Dem, it isn’t the only one.
This question is limiting the allowed evidence that could support a claim that there is racism present within the US. It is an unfair question.
It is an extremely fair question given the prominent place that white supremacy has in the national discussion, especially after our little Summer of Love.
Expand the conditions however you like. Make your case that white supremacy is concerning in the year 2020.
Well, I can say that I don’t really have a handle on a way to understand the scope of racism in the US in a quantifiable way.
The reason your question is limiting evidence of racism in the answer is it is asking for a policy, individual or action (and it seems in a positive manner), when it seems that other things or lack of things could show racism.
Let me ask something. Is allowing racism in fact racist? If yes, we have laws that are not specifically racist, but allow racism. They are not unknown, and yet they aren’t fixed. Is that allowing racism? Is that in fact racist? If no, I think we just have a different outlook on things, and it will be hard to come to an agreement here.
If you want an example of a racist policy, I do have one for you. Equal employment laws are something I am convinced are racist policies. These racist policies can go against blacks and whites.
You think this policy drove record employment AA employment that would not have been achieved had the mandate been kept in place?
See? You fall back on the narrative to make your case that the narrative is true. This is a recurring theme.
The most specific example you could produce is affirmative action, which I agree is one of the few race-based policies we have, not to mention being a sacred cow to most Democrats.
Yet here we are, with many people believing that white supremacy is an imminent existential threat to non-white Americans and that Donald Trump supports these (unnamed) people who will carry this out.
This is how multi millionaire activist/athletes come to believe that the police are actively hunting them.
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It probably helped, sure. It is a clear win for low income people. A huge tax lifted.
Show me. I don’t see how I did this:
The US government stated that it thinks white supremacist terrorism is the largest domestic terrorist threat in the US.
No it didn’t.
You are referring to a draft document. Draft documents are just that, drafts. There are no shortages of political hacks producing all kinds of draft documents at all levels of the US government.
Again, we have the narrative at work. The next best example you can provide is a leaked draft document that was never published.
All you need to do is pretend that it isn’t just one draft of many and boom, it becomes official government policy.
That’s a strong narrative there. It certainly has a good hold on the country.
Sure, I did think it was a report.
No, I pointed to policy that allows racism. Things like rental laws that are known to produce different outcomes between black and white tenants.
You think this policy drove record employment AA employment that would not have been achieved had the mandate been kept in place?
Well sure, we can agree that there is an abundance of unequal outcomes connected to a variety of government policies, sometimes quite specifically.
We just disagree about the specifics I think. If unequal outcomes is the the clearest example of white supremacy being not only present but a driving force in society, don’t the Democrats have some explaining to do?
Of course, nobody is talking about repealing the policies where the outcomes are most unequal, because those places are almost all run by Democrats.
That’s why the race discussion centers around impossible to prove ideas like “white privilege” and difficult to understand situations like lethal force encounters with police.