It’s just crazy. If Obama was breaking precedent on this the noise from these people would be deafening.
To me it’s not even a thing of acknowledging it and then saying I’m still voting for Trump. I just don’t see what happened to consistency. We should all be able to call things out and still say but I’ll still vote for him.
The thread is push to 2020. It’s almost exclusively been about the presidential race. You’re trying to change the subject so often and so quick. It’s quite obvious dude. Start a different thread if you want but everyone knows what you’re trying to do here man.
I just cannot possibly see the big deal here. I saw a Biden ad shredding Trump on TV. That’s propaganda, that’s a dark campaign ad. And it’s fine with me, the guy is trying to win an election. They use ads and for the most part, I don’t think ads do all that much to change people’s minds. What they do, do, is keep names fresh in people’s heads and remind them an election is coming up. Either way, it’s a nothing burger.
I’m hugely concerned about massive amounts of resource being used to distort a democracy, regardless of who wins. As I feel we lose. Some influential people must disagree with your statement about them not changing peoples minds, otherwise why put money and other resource into it.
Shedding is fine, but using lies, I’m not ok with that. As it makes winning the goal not serving the people.
The Russians certainly don’t think so.
They appear to be doing everything in their power to get Trump re-elected…
Trump speaks highly of Putin and Russia. It doesn’t make sense for Russia to not want Trump to win.
There are plenty of red flags in his taxes that you or I would not be able to get away with but hey stay tuned. The NY Times is not done releasing info.
Btw Pat since you are such a trump fan let me ask you one question.
You are well aware of all the lies and low life behavior that trump has displayed and has been accused of. If you replaced trumps name with President Obama would you be so eager to defend?
Source?
Since this conspiracy theory has been absolutely obliterated, I want to see the source. Adam Shciff?
Are you kidding me again, @pat?
We have been warned by virtually all of the U.S. Security Agencies that the Russians are doing everything to 1) create havoc within American Society as a whole (check…); 2) diminish overall confidence in our Election Process (check, check and check…)… and 3) TO GET DONALD TRUMP REELECTED.
(But then again…Trumpublicans think that all of the U.S. Government is out to get Trump…so my guess is that this all “Fake News” anyway…)
The denials are getting to the point of becoming beyond ridiculous at this point, @pat…
Give me an example. Most of the time, when people say Trump lies, they are the ones lying. So pick one, be specific.
And if Obama were like Trump I wouldn’t just defend him, I would be a fan. I am not a racist, I don’t care about skin color.
But Obama may be involved in the biggest corruption case, at least since Watergate if not worse. Look at the results of the Durham probe, so far. It’s not looking good for many people, really high up. We’ll have to wait for the full report.
You’re going to believe what you want, but I am not the biggest Trump supporter in the world. I liked Ted Cruz and Ben Carson in the primaries. I begrudgingly voted for him in 2016, fully expecting him to lose. But he won me over. Policy and actual legislation-wise, he turned out to exceed expectations. You’ll never hear the media say it, you probably don’t even know what policies he implemented, but under the screeching Orangeman bad narrative, the business of the government continued and things got done, like actual criminal reform Obama never bothered to do.
But hey, if you give me a better option than Trump, I will take it, in a heart beat. Hell, if you gave me a not complete disaster of an option in Biden, I wouldn’t even be that upset if Trump lost, but yall gave me this have brain-dead diaper wearing jabbering moron who will agree with who ever is in the room and who has caved to the most radical part of the party.
If you guys at least picked Tulsi Gabbart, I may not have agreed with her on many things, but I wouldn’t worry she would let the inmates run the asylum. Biden is the vehicle the far-left will ride in on.
This should be a manifesto, but I am tired of typing already. But here is what you are offering me with Joe Biden:
Riots, violence, looting, arson, destruction and murder. All happening on the left, in cities run by democrats, so forgive me if I lost faith in their ability to even lead a town. I see the woke-identarian stuff over taking society and power, ramming critical race and gender theory down our throats. I feel like if I wear the wrong thing, even unknowingly, in the wrong place I will be physically attacked. If I have a different opinion, I will lose my job and my sense of security. If I don’t bend my knee to the left’s new religion of race and gender, then I am a problem to be dealt with. I fear BLM will not be a political party, but the law of the land. I could go on and on, but this is what the left is. This is what is actually happening right now. This is not a dystopian nightmare, this is happening right here, right now, in this country.
Over 2 Billion dollars in property damage, and over 35 people killed in riots and you want me to vote for that?
The right isn’t doing this stuff, the KKK isn’t out there, Al Qaeda isn’t doing this, this is coming from the American Left. Sponsored and supported by the DNC with word, money and deed.
So you can quote, Trump gaffes and occasional lies, but it won’t change the fact that the Left and the DNC want to “burn it all down” and Trump does not. And neither do I.
I’m done, @pat.
You may not realize it…but your rants and post sound like they have been cut and pasted from the post of Russian Operatives…they really do.
God help us all.
Didn’t we go over this? The reasons for the riots, violence, etc… is more likely to be the population density and demographics (blaming the Democrats is a clear right wing talking point, and it works because many people don’t understand the difference between correlation and reasonable causation). The population density and demographics is likely why Democrats are in charge (cities generally prefer Democrats, and so do minorities).
I don’t know how we have such a different perception of reality. I see Trump try to pass along conspiracy theories, and evidence of likely serious crimes done by his administration comes up almost weekly. Many of the guy’s associates are no longer free men. Yet, you think the conspiracies and corruption is a bigger issue with the Dems? I just don’t know how we perceive reality so differently.
Yes, yes. I believe @pat is also a Russian. That’s the ticket. Nowadays, I have to believe everyone is. Until they prove otherwise…by supporting Democrats.
Read the post, or don’t comment…
Ditto. I’m done also pat. I don’t have time or do I care to waste any going over his 10k plus and counting lies.
It’s worth reading his posts because he’s a wind gauge - one can see how the GOP are prepping Trump’s base in their echo chamber(s).
In the past few months “widespread election fraud on Election day” became an established fact, we’ll see what else will become a “fact” by November.
I did read it.
My two cents are: @pat likes Trump more than he likes the alternative; ergo, he is a Russian.