When large factions of people take up arms against one another in many places in America with the intent to kill one another so that the victor can have things their way.
What we have now are a bunch of idiot radicals causing mayhem and property damage in isolated places. It’s not widespread, it hasn’t metastasized to a conflict between rival ideologies.
I have friends who live in Portland. Their lives are normal. They get groceries, they go for a run. None of this to say what’s happening there is ok or no big deal - it’s just that isn’t some looming national crisis.
I get it, you want it to be, hence the hyperbole. You’re trying to convince people that a Biden victory means a burning America with Marxists raising flags over state capitols rather than a predictable replay of the ho hum (but not terrible) Obama years.
Sorry to break it to you - I don’t drink Kool Aid.
I’d generally agree, but I’m comfortable calling what we’ve got going on now a civil war that’s just starting to get hot. I mentioned a few years ago that I felt like we were in a cold civil war when it became clear that destroying innocent lives to advance a narrative based on lies is the new modus operandi for Democrats. Brazen lying on national TV to paint teenagers as racist monsters. Brazen lying from the highest Democrats in office to smear Kavanaugh as a gang-rapist. The brazen lying from the highest Democrats in office to smear countless good cops as racist murderers. All with the help of most of our media landscape rowing in the same direction, pushing the same set of lies. This isn’t right, or normal. At all.
The funny thing about a war is that both sides don’t need to agree that they are in one. In fact, the longer one side pretends its not, the longer the other side has to operate with relative impunity.
You are, of course, free to paint my arguments in whatever way you wish. In the rush to do so, it seems as though you missed my first question.
Yet, the media labels them as the good guys. Why does the media protect them? Why do Democrats protect them? That’s the real problem. Why does De Blasio stand by while shootings and murders have gone up? What is he afraid of? Why does he protect BLM graffiti but not black children? These things scare people.
Like the hyperbole of the false BLM narrative which is to blame for a lot of this?
That’s weird - you didn’t mention any “brazen lying” by the Right or your cult leader. Surely someone as objective as you can recognize that if “brazen lying” is bad, it’s bad on anyone who does it, so you’ll be calling it out on the Right with the same gusto?
I won’t hold my breath.
In any event, if you sincerely believe we’re in some cold civil war, thanks anyway. I can’t take that seriously in the slightest. It’s the stuff of uninformed lunacy.
The mostly peaceful protesters. What has anything they have done in the past few months had to with racism or police brutality? How does terrorizing diners fix anything? What does Antifa trying to burn down buildings have to do with racism yet, they are called anti-racist protesters. How hard is it for a Democrat to denounce Antifa for what it is: a bunch of losers. Why don’t they call out BLM for being a Marxist organization that has no plan for fixing anything and doesn’t account for how it spends the money it raises?
Why do the media and the Democrats allow a false narrative that is hurting this country to be advanced as truth? For example: the cops are hunting down black men. Yet, no one has ever given an example of that. No. Trayvon was killed by a civilian… in self-defense.
Not interested in a tantrum of non-sequiturs - the issue is whether we’re in some cold civil war or not and if Biden wins, all is lost to the Marxists. You don’t like the media’s favorable coverage of BLM, ok - aside from that, do you think we are on the edge of some civil war?
This is the problem. And it’s why Biden may lose. I’m telling you what people are thinking. And the question is a valid one: why is CNN protecting them?
I already said no. The only people who will kill each other over this are idiots. Oh, and the Democrats will kill their hopes of winning elections because it’s easier for a republican to denounce white supremacy and racism than it is for them to denounce criminals, degenerates and false narratives.
I have no confidence you know what people,are thinking.
Good.
See, this is what I don’t get - in real life, COVID and unemployment are still at the tops of a lot of people’s concerns. You (and others) seem to believe the nation’s most pressing issue is where everyone falls on the BLM issue. Maybe that’s true in social media, but not in real life.
I’ll put it here one more time, so everyone can be reminded that a simple question like this gets deliberately ignored. Perhaps you simply take the notion of systemic racism at face value because you like the idea somehow, but I’d like to give you the benefit of the doubt and a chance to explain the position you’ve articulated.
I’ve been over this before. I’m not nearly as concerned with the outcomes of their lies. I don’t see the bad outcomes on a remotely comparable scale. I’ve explained this in depth and repeatedly challenged people to make their case for the damage caused by Republican lies and misdeeds. I’ve not found any compelling argument on these boards or elsewhere to spend my time making those points, let alone switch my vote to D in any election outside of local.
This most recent question is a perfect example. It is a straight-forward and fair question, especially considering the prominence of the issue. I’ll try one more time to give you a chance to explain yourself in specific terms.
I agree that pandemic + economy are the biggest things on most people’s radar. For me though, the issue with riots represents a philosophical battle. Ideology/philosophy have longer term consequences for nations and communities. Generally speaking those conflicts are also much more gradual onset as well.
I disagree that this issue is something that should be ignored in favor of the virus/economy problems. It’s not a civil war, not even a cold one. But it isn’t going away and we shouldn’t ignore it.
I think we’re on the same page, for sure - where I come out is thre are more critical things over which to select a president. I firmly think Biden should have come out sooner and tougher on it - but is that the same as thinking Biden is somehow allow Marxists to rule the streets if he gets elected? That nonsense being peddled here (not by you) is preposterous - and one of two things: either the person actually buys that view (and if so, God help them) or they are trying to artificially inflate the issue to scare voters. My guess is most people are in the latter category - and if they were being honest (fat chance), they’d agree they’re exaggerating for political effect to try and paint Biden as “soft on crime” in hopes of Dukasis-ing him.
I’m confident you are a little bitch. I know you’re upset that I exposed your lack of facts with regard to Kyle Rittenhouse but holding a grudge is sad.
This is why you are an idiot. I’m not saying that is the most pressing issue but it is perceived as serious by many. Also, since you don’t pay attention, it’s a question of leadership in the face of civil unrest. Again, why do the Democrats and the media portray criminals as heroes? Why do they push a false narrative? Why do they obviously pander? Are you going to tell me that liberals didn’t see right through Pelosi dressed like Shaka Zulu? Ted Wheeler and De Blasio have become the face of the Democratic Party.
Here’s the irony: we are supposed to believe that the BLM and Antifa question is not that serious yet, the same people downplaying that are pushing their own false narrative with regard to racism and police shootings.
How is Trump sowing division but CNN isn’t? Whenever there is a police shooting involving a black suspect, Democrat politicians will cry racism and condemn the cops before having the facts. Anyone counter protesting BLM is a white supremacist. If you are a Trump supporter you are a racist and if you are a black Trump supporter, you ain’t black.
Of course not, and thanks for the blatant admission - you can overlook lying as long as it’s in service to things you think are good: you’ve said it yourself now, it’s an outcome based standard for you.
Damning.
Dodging and not being particularly interested in discussing it with you are not the same thing. However, happy reading:
My view is not all the unfortunate statistics in this article result from racism and racism alone - it’s complicated. But the existence of so many disparities across so many areas - not just criminal justice but economics, home ownership, etc. - strongly suggests something is happening that is worthy of speaking up about.