@loppar can tell you all about revolutionary defeatism. I don’t know if Bernie is a subscriber or not.
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Given he publicly threw support behind Hillary last election, I’d lean very very strongly toward Bernie wanting to see a Dem in over the GOP again
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I kinda feel that goes with the whole industry as a standard feature
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I think Bernie likes Capitolism just fine. He’s blown up one of his core promises in his own campaign. Even if he cuts hours, he won’t cut demand. So the show will go on until he get’s undone.
Some where Biden is smiling…
Bernie has just raised his staffer’s pay. Now whether or not the damage is done, we shall see.
Sticking to his ideals would somehow damage him?
I think it has.
Every Poll seems to have him in last place of the “Top Tier” (usually Biden, Harris, Warren and then Sanders).
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Dudes been done since he lost to Hillary. Nobody is voting for the guy who lost to the girl who lost to Trump
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I think this is correct, but he has a stable ~10%. Enough for Warren or Harris to decisively take the lead.
Not that this will stop him spoiling the race for those 2. Had the field narrowed quickly, Trump may not have won the 2016 primary season.
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It has nothing to do with the pay issue.
I don’t think he wins but RCP has him 2nd nationally, 3rd in Iowa and 3rd in New Hampshire. He certainly has the potential to at least be a player. If he goes down and his supporters all go to one person it would make them the favorite.
I think people are sick of Bernie. True believers are disjointed with his ‘millionaire’ status and now had to be coersed to pay his people more due to media outrage, not because he knew there was a problem and corrected it or made sure it never happened.
That doesn’t serve his message well who should have known better in the first place.
He’s in a different position now, he’s not taking on the establishment, he’s part of it. And other candidates have out ‘woke’ him.
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I think likewise, the dropping out of any of those people might swing over to Bernie, pushing him up the ladder.
Dude needs to stop. He doesn’t have anywhere near the energy this time around. Everyone can feel it when he speaks.
Another thought for you guys opinion.
How much do you think the DEMS have learned from 2016 in this sense;
Will they “push” Biden to the extent they did Hillary…by all intents and purposes "rigging’ the nomination for Biden, come hell or high-water? (The “Wasserman-Schultz” fiasco).
Remember…when that came out; (which the DEMS never planned for)…it was just one more thing that doomed Clinton’s presidential chances (in addition to her overall unpopularity).
Not a chance. They would be happy to dump his ass like a high school fling.
Too old, too white, too centrist, too much a presidential race bungler.
That’s the perception of democrats’ thinking but it’s a minority of voters, or rather potential voters, who think that way. Ironically, that description could easily have fit Hillary.
I wasn’t speaking to the democrat voters, more the democrat party machine. I have several blue and purple state democrat friends, and know they aren’t a unitary ideological bloc.
EDIT: They all share one stance, which is anyone but Trump, that’s the only notable consistency I’ve seen from them.
I don’t think so. And I don’t think most Dems are in love with him anyways. I think they will let it play out.
That machine pushed an old white hawk over a socialist.
A non-party newcomer socialist.